Macho Posturing and Why Dating isn't Worth It

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

I am quite unattractive (putting it mildly, since I had severe nodulocystic acne as a kid, which basically destroys your face), and as a result I’ve only dated women with low self-esteem who were desperate enough. Of course money is a much bigger factor, but I didn’t have much back in my dating years. I had realistic expectations based on my assets and appearance, and therefore never really cared that I couldn’t attract the hottest women; rather, what ultimately turned me off of dating was that I eventually discovered that it’s impossible for a man to really be himself around women.

If you know anything about PUA tactics, you’ll notice that they all involve some sort of macho posturing, feigning indifference, being something of an asshole, etc. I studied these techniques for some time and put them into practice as well, and I can tell you for certain that these tactics absolutely work. Treat women like s~~~ and they like you ten times more. The problem is, it’s so damn STRESSFUL to pretend to be someone you’re not all the time.

First of all, I can pretend to be an asshole, but I’m actually generally a nice guy (not in the white knight or simp sense, just generally polite and respectful). Furthermore, I’d prefer to talk about philosophy, religion, politics, literature, or art, but most women have no understanding or interest in these subjects, so I have to pretend to be interested while they talk about celebrity gossip and how much they hate their friends and relatives. Women also aren’t interested in my hobbies (though they may pretend to be at first, but then they try to get you to give them up). Finally, while passing s~~~ tests isn’t too hard if you know how to recognize them, it just becomes tiring in the end because they NEVER STOP.

In the end, relationships with women simply aren’t worth it. I’ve seen how women react the moment I start to act like myself. Doing or saying anything outside the PUA script will turn them from hot to cold in a matter of seconds. Some MGTOW still date or pump and dump, and I’m not criticizing that decision: I’m just explaining why I ultimately gave up on dating, and perhaps someone reading this will sit down and consider whether the juice is really worth the squeeze.

If you want to talk about and do the things you love, make friends with other men. Women simply weren’t designed to fulfill that role.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Anonymous 54]

The first step to happiness,

Be Yourself!!!

[Anonymous 12]

There’s an expression that goes “The person who cares less in a relationship wins”.

This is why the PUA tactics you mention work so well. It makes the woman want to WORK. It makes her think “wow, this guy doesn’t care if he impresses me or not. He must have a million women out there. I better make him mine and now!”.

Like a complete Blue Pill moron I would reassure women that I didn’t have a harem in waiting when they would say things to me like “You must have a lot of women”. I was always too honest and too much of a nice guy and that is why it never worked.

And like your post says, that is also why I lost interest. I realized that I had to play games and I didn’t want to do that.

[UntamedParticipant]

I’m glad you realised that dating was a waste of time and that the juice just ain’t worth the squeeze.
I read your posts and I think you’re an intelligent quality man. It would’ve been such a tragedy to waste a man like you on some bitch who can’t appreciate the first thing about a man.
Now you’re going your own way and your value has jumped yet a few notches so happy trails, CST.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[MACHOParticipant]

Very good post Can’t Stump Trump, especially the If you want to talk about and do the things you love, make friends with other men. Women simply weren’t designed to fulfill that role

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Some MGTOW still date or pump and dump, and I’m not criticizing that decision: I’m just explaining why I ultimately gave up on dating, and perhaps someone reading this will sit down and consider whether the juice is really worth the squeeze.
If you want to talk about and do the things you love, make friends with other men. Women simply weren’t designed to fulfill that role

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[SpaceManFinParticipant 48]

Unfortunate and true. Treating women like the very objects they verbally hate makes them more interested. Applies to all people actually. The person who treats and sees those around him as objects and/or children worthy of just the basics of respect for human existence tends to get more attention. Their perception goes like this; if he does that, he must have a good reason –> is he stronger than me/us?

Women are the most susceptible to this treatment. Treat them like unruly teenagers whose opinions and attitudes matter just that much, the attention grows. Egalitarianism or true equality is a lie.

Helpful anecdote: way back when, I unintentionally friend-zoned a woman because I didnt want to abuse her perceived weak state. Ruined her self-esteem by not screwing her. Recently, completely ignored and acted like a rude asshole to a bunch of co-worker women, who began giggling like children whenever I bothered to talk to them at all.

It’s just the way it works. The teenagers dont want to run the world and carry the responsibility, they know they’re weak and need their daddies to guide them.

[Anonymous 54]

Women only want what they cant have.

That tells them thats its desirable.

Reverse phsychology, works well with morons and children. You know, women.

[Anonymous 38]

Extremely well-written, truthful post, Trump.

[narwhalParticipant]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

If you know anything about PUA tactics, you’ll notice that they all involve some sort of macho posturing, feigning indifference, being something of an asshole, etc. I studied these techniques for some time and put them into practice as well, and I can tell you for certain that these tactics absolutely work. Treat women like s~~~ and they like you ten times more. The problem is, it’s so damn STRESSFUL to pretend to be someone you’re not all the time

Eh, I see it a bit differently. I don’t try and be an asshole, or try to be nice or anything, I just do it without concern for the effect it has on her.

Case in point, a couple months back I was seeing this would who had been working in the home loan industry for a couple years. She was complaining about how she was under appreciated for her work, had people offering her better jobs at different firms, yet wanted to be loyal to her current boss. The answer to her problem was clear, but it was obvious she was actually rather content with her situation as she got lots of attention and victimhood out of it. I told her she needed to take a better job once, and only once. That was me being nice. I ignored all her ranting and complaining after that point as it was pointless. Perhaps she considered me an asshole for that, but it was a waste to do anything but.

She was probably more in to me for that over all, but that was never my point. I simply was bored and refused to comfort a victim who would not resolve her own issue. She was loaded with these sort of issues, and I just ignored them all.

I’m not at all suggesting that I’m good with woman or anything like that. I’m just saying that the there really doesn’t need to be a trick to not giving a damn…just don’t give a damn.

Ok. Then do it.

[legendarydrewParticipant 30]

I also went down the PUA route several years ago (with virtually no effect!), and I realised one important thing: you’ll never have to go out of your way to gain the attention of a female who’s worth your time..

[SolidParticipant 7520]

Really good post brother ! Is too damn stressful to deal with all this bulls~~~, too much collateral effect. As stated by other brother here, you are a really smart guy, women will only waste your precious time with complete bulls~~~.

Not only your time dealing with her s~~~, but time stressed, time spent doing things to fix her s~~~, time spent with all other kinds of s~~~ that she may do to your life. Is a huge waste of time spending time with that, specially if you are smart as you are.

I feel sorry about PUAs, but at least they know with what they are dealing with, sooner they will start realizing that the juice doesn’t worth the squeeze.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

Solid wrote:

Women will only waste your precious time with complete bull-s~~~.

Ain’t that the truth. Women are just leeches on a man.

Women are a complete waste of your energy/money/time; women are not level-headed/reasonable, not loyal/trust-worthy, not honest, and they do not truly love you. The modern woman only appears to be good for sex, but sex is too costly/risky nowadays, so modern women are effectively good-for-nothing.

Do yourself a favour; do not get involved with women whatsoever.

[Wildwalker57Participant 107]

My simple observation in the dating game=

They are ALWAYS ALL about themselves.

Checked out for life, and I’m not looking back. I’m in my mid-40s and women from my past are trying to circle back around.
Nope. I’m happy, and my happiness isn’t for lease, sale, or barter.
They can go find some sand and pound, repeat.

"It's a trap!" Admiral Ackbar.

[ghostParticipant]

You are one the smartest and nicest guys on these forums, Stump.

I also agree with everything you said.

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