"Love will make a man die willingly…"

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  • #915402
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    Stealth
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    I grew up heavily churched and experienced the birth of CCM (“Contemporary Christian Music”) in the 1980’s and its popularization in the ’90’s. Keith Greene, Steve Green, Steven Curtis Chapman, Babbie Mason, Al Denson, Kim Boyce, Twila Paris, and Bruce Carroll are all names that still roll off my tongue.

    Margaret Becker was one of my faves. She had a youthful, spirited energy and was really a great vocalist and all-around artist. Her early album “Simple House” is emotional, visionary, richly textured and exuberant, and was often on repeat in my personal space. The bridge in “The Strangest Things” goes as follows:

    “Love will make a man eat locusts in the desert.
    Love will make a man dance wild in the streets.
    Love will make a man leave his house and home.
    Love will make a man die willingly, willingly –– so a girl’s got to listen.”

    The last line–like a number of things I encountered in church culture–stuck out to me as peculiar, some form of playful irony. But now I see it differently.

    "Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

    #915403
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    Well there are things that may be worth dying for.

    Less and less women are worth dying for these days.

    The more corrupt our country becomes from socialist libtards wanting to destroy it, or the powers that be wanting to use our powers for things that preserve private interests and corporations rather than actual constitutional reasons, the less the country is worth dying for.

    The more people use those that would die for them, the less worth those people are worth dying for.

    There are things I would die for. A couple people even. Plenty of things I would defend and kill for. but I am selective and over time those lists have shortened.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #915406
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    This is the thing that women have been exploiting for years in men. If you will die for love, you will also do a great deal of other things. Women have asked for them all. However recently they have not given anything much in return. Most certainly won’t live for their husbands and families any more, so they are not worth it.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    #915408
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    Monk
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    The more corrupt our country becomes from socialist libtards wanting to destroy it, or the powers that be wanting to use our powers for things that preserve private interests and corporations rather than actual constitutional reasons, the less the country is worth dying for.

    That’s me now.

    My country is dead. The best are buried in France. I and the few remaining ones like me, are a vanishing minority. The majority are worthless.

    I owe them and the country that they have made, nothing.

    #915410
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    Daryll55
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    There was a time when If my ex’s life were threatened;I would have willingly stepped in and taken the bullett. I was total blue-pill, and that woman was going to raise my child/children the right way, with or without me.
    THAT WAS THEN…….

    THIS IS NOW ……
    Now, divorced and kid grown up with more HER beliefs than mine due to my state restricted time allowed with her.
    NOW, the ex could get hit by a bus and I could care less! “Did something happen to mommy?”

    Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

    #915421
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    My Captain Save A Ho Cape has been left in tatters with NO REPLACEMENT…..Thankfully So.

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #915422
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    Today is the Marine Corps’ Birthday. Ten November, 1775. Tomorrow is Veterans Day.

    A 10K RUN will embark in Dallas by a solitary Marine, wearing combat boots and running with the American flag.

    Ourah! I have my red/yellow US Marines shirt too, with the Eagle Globe and Anchor across my chest. Motivation!

    Happy Sunday gents and God Bless America

    #915424
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    Stealth
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    “Love will make a man die willingly –– so a girl’s got to listen.”
    It’s the universal female motive; lure a man in, then kill him.
    Whether they meant it or not, they’re saying if you want to control and/or kill a man, this is how you do it–girls, listen up.

    "Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

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    It’s the universal female motive; lure a man in, then kill him.

    Mantis

    “The female has a propensity for weakening the man. This is an ongoing occurrence in any relationship, but marriage provides an ideal setting for the gradual siphoning of his strength. A woman can cause so much needless anxiety in a man that his health suffers. He may become nervous, irritable, and develop heart trouble. Her enfeebling maneuvers provide her with a fiendish, sub-conscious satisfaction. The crippling effects of marriage, on men, are well known to her. She’ll sap his strength, gradually wearing him down over the years in thousands of little, cumulative ways, until she’s the stronger. Years of taking out the trash and picking up dog s~~~, among countless other indignities, finally break his spirit.”

    "You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."
    #915443
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    Rumpole
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    Some lyrics from “When a Man Loves a Woman” by Percy Sledge:

    When a man loves a woman
    He’ll spend his very last dime
    Tryin’ to hold on to what he needs
    He’d give up all his comforts
    And sleep out in the rain
    If she said that’s the way
    It ought to be

    Any woman who makes such demands on a man isn’t worth having.

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    Some lyrics from “When a Man Loves a Woman” by Percy Sledge:

    When a man loves a woman
    He’ll spend his very last dime
    Tryin’ to hold on to what he needs
    He’d give up all his comforts
    And sleep out in the rain
    If she said that’s the way
    It ought to be

    Any woman who makes such demands on a man isn’t worth having.

    Unfortunately humans value things for their lack of availability. We want more what we don’t have, and we do not value what is easy and plentiful.

    Women know this and have played this card for ages. If a woman offers herself freely then she has little value for a man, if she is hard to get, then she will be valuable in a man’s mind.

    Our personal evolution comes from evaluating things for their real value to ourselves, instead of external clues like social proof or availability.

    That is when we enjoy what we have instead of chasing what we don’t have. That is when we are content.

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    And to expand the subject…

    After investing significant effort and resources in something (like a woman or marriage) a man will value that thing at the level his investment.
    That is why, when things become clearly bad, the man refuses to abandon the boat. Because of all the investment he has already made, he cannot accept that it was all lost.

    In financial markets jargon this is known by “chasing losses”, as a human reaction of refusing to sell when to seeing reduced the value of one’s investment.

    That is why its important to know the REAL VALUE of things to you, not the subjective value given by others or by self-serving parasites.

    If you made the mistake of investing to much in someone, then cut your losses. You should not be embarrassed by it, neither you can get a refund. It was as much a failure on your part to see their real value, as it was a deception of their part to sell themselves for what they are not. In fact EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE ARE INTO DECEIVING YOU! Society thrives in fooling men into bad deals.

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    Yet another expansion…

    The proof that women con men into relationships is that when marriages end not only men lose all the investment, but they have to pay to leave the deal.

    Not only is an overvalued asset of fraudulent nature, but because you have to pay to get rid of it is instead a liability.

    Think about this: it is the only liability that you must invest constantly and offers you almost nothing in return.

    #915449
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    After investing significant effort and resources in something (like a woman or marriage) a man will value that thing at the level his investment.
    That is why, when things become clearly bad, the man refuses to abandon the boat.

    Great point. And consider the flip side: The woman has contributed very little and has little to lose. In fact, she stands to benefit significantly from the breakup. Which explains why ~80% of divorces are initiated by women.

    To continue with investment analogy:

    She sold the husband’s marriage stock short, drove the value down, now is buying to cover at a substantial gain, returning the now-worthless stock to the ex-husband.

    "You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."
    #915456
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    Christopher
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    Amen to all that ! ^

    In more traditional times a woman would come with a dowry (maybe some land or cattle from her father) when she got married – in return the husband provided for her and their kids – it was transactional in a sense as then her father no longer had the responsibility. Now a woman just comes with a bag of problems to put mildly – particularly when the state got involved. Inheritance taxes and such like put an end to all that a long time ago – the state and the bankers takes a bite of everything and f~~~ed up a way of life that worked for thousands of years.

    When I was in Kenya a local told me many men will only get married if there is no state marriage contract.. the woman just comes and lives with the man – its a personal arrangement nothing to do with the state – if its doesnt work out she moves out simply as that !

    Woman are not as intelligent or as logical as men – the socalled modern world is f~~~ed up with their emotional thinking and craziness – many socalled high achieving women where I used to work were half crazy as they were pursuing a career helter skelter like demons but subconsciously really wanted to have kids so they are messed up in the head – they are conditioned to be feminists working..

    Feminism was funded by the bankers/politicans to create more taxpayers
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTf0Q8z8GkQ
    Female CEO says women dont make good programmers
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A75r7cXQMds&feature=emb_title

    Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready

    #915464
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    After investing significant effort and resources in something (like a woman or marriage) a man will value that thing at the level his investment.That is why, when things become clearly bad, the man refuses to abandon the boat.

    Great point. And consider the flip side: The woman has contributed very little and has little to lose. In fact, she stands to benefit significantly from the breakup. Which explains why ~80% of divorces are initiated by women.
    To continue with investment analogy:
    She sold the husband’s marriage stock short, drove the value down, now is buying to cover at a substantial gain, returning the now-worthless stock to the ex-husband.

    If women had the man’s deal in marriage and divorce, they’d never willingly ever get married.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #915465
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    Stealth
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    And to expand the subject…
    After investing significant effort and resources in something (like a woman or marriage) a man will value that thing at the level his investment.That is why, when things become clearly bad, the man refuses to abandon the boat. Because of all the investment he has already made, he cannot accept that it was all lost.
    In financial markets jargon this is known by “chasing losses”, as a human reaction of refusing to sell when to seeing reduced the value of one’s investment.
    That is why its important to know the REAL VALUE of things to you, not the subjective value given by others or by self-serving parasites.
    If you made the mistake of investing to much in someone, then cut your losses. You should not be embarrassed by it, neither you can get a refund. It was as much a failure on your part to see their real value, as it was a deception of their part to sell themselves for what they are not. In fact EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE ARE INTO DECEIVING YOU! Society thrives in fooling men into bad deals.

    Microeconomics! An excellent moment to bring it up, and should be required learning for everyone.
    I had a business analyst explain the principle of “sunken costs” to me and immediately thought of my marriage. It’s acknowledging and separating yourself from the price you have paid up to this moment, and instead only looking forward. If it was a bad investment, you let it go 100%. It is a sunken cost: irretrievable, irredeemable, and holding it will only tie up valuable resources that should be spent elsewhere. I struggle to maintain this proper view of thinking largely due to my religious upbringing which emphasized overcommitment and doing everything “for life”…I am an excellent slave.

    "Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

    #915469
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    CPT Obvious
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    Sunken costs, indeed. Like the Titanic, it is all grand and beautiful in the beginning. But in the end there is a lot of yelling and coldness with everything lost in dramatic fashion.

    "You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."
    #915470
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    Awakened
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    Society thrives in fooling men into bad deals.

    After investing significant effort and resources in something (like a woman or marriage) a man will value that thing at the level his investment.That is why, when things become clearly bad, the man refuses to abandon the boat. Because of all the investment he has already made, he cannot accept that it was all lost.

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #915473
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    Anonymous
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    Nice one awakened!

    Relationships and marriage are akin to playing with a cheating mobster. Not only you are going to lose, but you will end up in debt and keep paying after the game. And the interests keep changing.

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