Lost Another Friend

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

When I first came to this site nearly two years ago, I had been searching for material about the dangers of co-habitation and marriage as a good friend of mine had just had his life taken over by a girl he met on Tinder.

Tonight I am returning after a long hiatus not only because I saw two articles in the mainstream media about this site but also because another friend of mine revealed to me today that he is moving in with his girlfriend.

This guy has it all… a high-profile gig in the entertainment industry, a steady stream of normatively attractive females at his disposal, charm, wit and good looks… so when he told me he had some relationship news, I thought he was going to tell me he was going monk for a while but no… unfortunately no.

He’s moving into a new house with this girl and he’s happy to report that his name is on everything and then goes on to tell me how much money he’s spending on new furniture…

“Congratulations.” I said. “Have you ever heard of the ‘micro-divorce’? It’s where a woman moves in with a guy of higher economic status, lets him buy a bunch of new furniture, appliances and decorations, spends six months slowly cutting off his supply of sex and then lets him take her on a whirlwind vacation to “try to re-kindle the spark” then dumps him believing that, as a man, he would rather just walk away and let her have all those new things than fight her for them… particularly since she picked them out and they really don’t suit his taste anyway.”

Stunned Silence

“Well, just be sure to track her cycle and don’t be surprised if your love life starts to cool off except for on the days where she’s ovulating. And always use your own condoms that you have maintained control over from beginning to end.”

More Stunned Silence

“Oh no,” he says… “It’s not gonna be like that. She’s a great girl, she even insists on paying half the rent.”

“Brother, if she has to ‘insist’ then you can bet your ass that it’s not going to happen. I wish you the best of luck… if you really believe you’ve found the best woman you’ll ever get on this Earth and feel the inescapable need to spend the rest of your existence with her, then I suppose you have to go for it… but remember I’ll be here in the end if you need me.”

[WallyParticipant]

Welcome back Doc, sorry about your friend, maybe a micro-divorce will wake him up.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Anonymous 42]

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Nice to have you back, Doc. I enjoy learning from your posts. Deepest sympathies for your friend.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[BoarParticipant]

Doc, I was wondering where you were. Good to have you back.

As for your friend. I believe he will count you has his closest friend going forward even if there is an interim influence while he is in purgatory….er, cohabiting.

I am sure he will find that freedom is the greatest comfort for soundly sleeping on your couch.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

Stargazer wrote:

“Oh no,” he says… “It’s not gonna be like that. She’s a great girl, she even insists on paying half the rent.”

Wow, imagine that she even “insists” on paying half the rent. She really is different, she doesn’t even EXPECT to live for free in a newly furnished apartment, thanks to your friends cash. Can you blame him ? She must really be HIS NAWALT.

Your friends probably just thinking that you’re jealous, but don’t worry if you’re nice to her, she can probably set you up with one of her “great” girl friends.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 54]

Oh oh…Seen it a milion times.They think the big show bizz ride will last forever. Only for liveing legends. Others come and go. They over extend them selfs, pop culture moves on, and then they ride the sinking ship.She’ll enjoy his old goodies while he becomes a nobody, his cd’s in the 99 cent bin.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

The urge to scoop everything you have into a pile and hand it to some girl is strong in many men… believe me, I felt it myself. You know… the need to be useful, to rescue a fair maiden and then parade her around on your arm like a trophy.

It says to the world ‘I am a real man, see what I can do! I can protect and provide and receive the reward of a physically desirable woman letting me put my hands on her body. I win!’ But of course we all know that this is an illusion… that the wreath around the neck of the thoroughbred standing proudly in the winners circle is, in reality, a yolk and the circle a mill tread that never ends until they take his hooves and bones for glue.

There are times when I still battle with this urge to live out the narrative that society wrote for me… to sacrifice myself as protector and provider for some entitled child of a woman who is too lazy and full of herself to make her own way in life. Like me, maybe this friend of mine needs to go through the process for himself before he understands that winning the love of a woman is about as meaningful and enduring as being the lunch of a shark.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Stargazer wrote:

It says to the world ‘I am a real man, see what I can do! I can protect and provide and receive the reward of a physically desirable woman letting me put my hands on her body. I win!’ But of course we all know that this is an illusion… that the wreath around the neck of the thoroughbred standing proudly in the winners circle is, in reality, a yolk and the circle a mill tread that never ends until they take his hooves and bones for glue.

That’s some lyrical MGTOW gold right there. Welcome back, Doc!

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

Stargazer wrote:

The urge to scoop everything you have into a pile and hand it to some girl is strong in many men… believe me, I felt it myself. You know… the need to be useful, to rescue a fair maiden and then parade her around on your arm like a trophy.

And that is exactly why you have mgtow.com. Unfortunately, twenty years ago, men like myself were PURPOSELY seeking out these situations to satisfy the social conditioning that brain washed us from birth. We were doing what we were trained to do, and today we are paying the price. There were no other options. Most men didn’t want any other options. They were fulfilling THEIR place in the world, or at least what they have been told was THEIR place. LIES, LIES, AND MORE LIES !!!!!

Today, young men like yourself have choices, support, and information that just wasn’t around 20 years ago. MGHOW is a viable option, and becoming more and more popular among men. It’s available today to all that are ready to accept and understand the truth.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2096]

White knighting/Captain save a hoe etc. Nothing new and most of us have been there. Sorry to hear about your friend. But If a guy like Clooney can be suckered in any guy can be suckered in. Men are romantics and we want to believe in the NAWALT, regardless of all rational evidence. I think these desires to protect women are possibly even stronger than the sex instinct and are deeply hard wired. Yet guys can be unplugged even so. I really do think once you are there really is no truly ever going back.

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[KimmurielParticipant 480]

I warned my friend of this same scenario, except he had a threesome with this girl back in college and now he’s getting married to her.

I’m done warning him, but I told him about mgtow and then rested my case. I just hope that should things go in the s~~~ter, she doesn’t hurt him too much.

"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock

[Red pill, I’m awakeParticipant 31]

That’s too bad about your friend, he may have to learn the hard way. Women are
like a toxic beast with long sharp claws,jagged fangs and a fork tounge, just
waiting for the first guy who comes along with a good job,house,car and a large
savings account. Now she’s just working him over until he asks her to marry him
and then he’s really f~~~ed. All that I can say is be thankful it’s not you.
Watch your back bitches be crazy. Happy life, no wife.

[MGTOW_MedicParticipant 184]

*A moment of silence*

I had a woman I was with for 7 months, I truly loved her. She came into my life so easy, and left as fast with no sympathy. Literally none, she is now engaged. It took her a month. A month.

Sorry to hear about your friend. I will keep him in my thoughts.

MGtOW_Medic - EMT - P, Firefighter Lvl 2, Hazmat Ops

[AntonioParticipant 142]

in 2010 i was living with one of my exgfs. I went to live with this girl because my mother said so and also said her “take this boy to live with you and teach him how this works (with a spanish proverb). I let my mother dictate my life and went to live with her.
After two years ( I wasnt going anywhere and tried to trade for a living….loosing (gambling) she realised i wasnt thriving and got anxious. We started an argument and (naturally) I leave. After 5 days i come back home to take some of my things to me and also (i must say that) control by my side. She got out of the bedrooms and go to downstairs bathroom naked (so strange because we had another bath upstairs), she locked in the bathroom avoiding the situation. I entered our room and saw a naked guy in the bed i payed for. I asked him if he was ok even lol. I was impressed.

Then i decided (i had returned to my mothers home) to go alone. I rented a house and started some s~~~ty things to earn money. She felt that i was going to thrive and she started to want to come back. I said no i am with another chick already you had your time (bad move on my part because i could mantain that chick just at a distance if i would played it better). After a month she married one of my best friends. EVERY TIME i see them i see my friend is more unmotivated, depressed and looking like a shadow of his former self. I blame me on the game because i can do something for my friend…but i dont want. I am even on the same cyrcle again and i have another really bad relationshiup that i am not playing (still) properly.

Need to say that this chick was going to marry another man just previous to me, wanted to marry me and marry the next one. So, love? No she just wanted marriage. Its sad, its crazy, its a f~~~ing world….sin city like.

[AntonioParticipant 142]

What it inspires me the most is that i naturalle leave that house without knowing about the rules of the game. I now know them and i struggle to do the same. F~~~!

[Masculine_ManParticipant 2735]

When people do this I simply reference Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. They had money, a support network, and they still couldn’t make it work. They didn’t have to cook clean or really do anything difficult. What the hell makes men think their situation won’t be any different?

If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.

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