Losing friends

[ShameusParticipant 22]

Hi, everyone. I have been absorbing all the hard earnt wisdom on this site for a while now. Thank you, everyone… One thing I have personally found hard to cope with is my slow loss of friends as I have grown older. I am now in my mid 40s. I live alone and like the independence that brings. I am fully aware of the dangers of women slowly destroying you (I view them as lacerators of the soul). However, one thing I have found very hard to adapt to, is my slow loss of friends. This is caused by their wives slowly isolating them from anyone they knew before they met, and to create their own acceptable social circle (that consists, in my opinion, of social climbers, gloaters, smugness and “keeping up with the Joneses” attitudes). This has made it harder for my former friends to socialise with me, and I am a bit annoyed they meekly accept it. One I haven’t met for a long time, though we communicate online occasionally.
It is hard to see my friends slowly disappear, for we had a lot of laughs and shared many values. I now feel isolated not through the empowerment of my own choices, but because other women feel they have “won” by simply cutting me out of their own lives. And I see this happen to other people too.
I am strong enough to go on. I have lots of interests, work hard and am close to greater financial freedom. It’s just a shame that this is another destructive side effect of marriage. Anyone else experience this sort of thing? And how do you not only survive it, but can thrive from it?

[MonkParticipant 16985]

Females eliminating all the husbanks acquaintances and replacing them with drones is nothing new. You just have to accept it – it’s his choice too, remember.

It is said that if you have one true friend in your life, you are very fortunate. Most are just acquaintances.

I have just been to the funeral of just such a man. He would have taken a bullet for me, and I for him.

[JB BooksParticipant 3182]

Good thread. I’ve lost buddies to their blue pillness too. Not sure how you can meet like-minded guys, although I’ve made a few friends over the years in one way or another.

We just don't realize life's most significant events while they're happening. Back then, I thought, "Well, there'll be other days". I didn't realize that that was the only day. - "Moonlight" Graham

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Shameus wrote:

This is caused by their wives slowly isolating them from anyone they knew before they met, and to create their own acceptable social circle

They have to. The plow horse can’t see the other field where the stallion is romping around doing as he pleases. He might not want to pull the plow anymore. It happens to all of us. The fact that this is universal just tells you that women benefit from that arrangement somehow. It doesn’t matter how, but if it wasn’t beneficial to the hive then it wouldn’t work that way.

Unfortunately your two choice are to find a field to plow for someone else or continue to go your own way. Which is really only one choice.

Order the good wine

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

You cant lose a friend, you lose people pretending to be friends, most people call friend to other people they went to school with, worked with, know for a long time or grew up with, ALL THAT MEANS S~~~.

Jail and War, the only two instances you find friends, all else is just people you know or worse PEOPLE THAT KNOW YOU, and they know how to f~~~ you up.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[UntamedParticipant]

I don’t have any friends, only acquaintances and at this point I don’t want any friends.
I don’t need any friends, animals are my friends and they come to me without knowing me. Dogs, cats, horses, possums, monkeys, birds, squirrels… There is as much meaning in a dog’s stare as a friend’s two hours’ conversation for the one who doesn’t stop at the physical aspect of Life.

Monk wrote:

You just have to accept it – it’s his choice too, remember.

Exactly. A guy who kneels to pussy ain’t a friend of mine. That guy would stab you in the back for pussy faster than you can say “holy s~~~!”

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[ShameusParticipant 22]

Great responses, thanks. Poor married men – knowing that their “loved one” is cutting them off from people they liked, and creating a new reality that they must pretend to like – or else. And then this happens: a news article today describing a wife that “wanted to divorce her husband of 40 years, on the grounds that she was unhappy.” Imagine investing 40 years of hard graft into someone else who then repays you by doing that? As my friends’ marriages have developed, I have learnt that it is the silences and what is not said that are the most significant signs of unhappiness. Their efforts are not appreciated. At all.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Shameus wrote:

Anyone else experience this sort of thing? And how do you not only survive it, but can thrive from it?

Friends will turn against you, some move away and others die. Losing friends is just a normal and ongoing part of life. You just have learn to accept it as such.

I find that it’s best to try not to count on others too much for their friendship. Human nature being what it is, chances are that a ‘friend’ will at some point disappoint or betray you anyway.

Pets are an excellent substitute for friends. A really lousy dog can be a much better friend than most humans…

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Shameus wrote:

And then this happens: a news article today describing a wife that “wanted to divorce her husband of 40 years, on the grounds that she was unhappy.”

Well, if they married in their 20’s then 40 years is about the time he is finally going to get to retire. And spend time with his loving wife, get to go do all of those things he’s been missing out on all those years. She now realizes that she’s going to be spending more time with her boring old plow horse. So now she’s not happy.

The cold harsh reality for a man is that when he finally gets to retire he wants to spend more time with the woman he loves, she just wants him to go the f~~~ away. 50% of marriages end in divorce, and another 50% of the “good ones that make it” look like that. The odds kinda suck don’t they?

And women wonder where all the good man have gone….

Order the good wine

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

OP – when I was married my then wife, insisted that I stop seeing some of my friends…I ignored her and later ended up divorcing her. She also insisted that I don’t bring my family members over (although there was nothing that any of my family members did that was wrong)….after my divorce I realized that she was trying to isolate me in order to control me, as well as to control money: all at my expense and those that I cared for, for the benefit of her immediate family.

Pussy Power is real, and it is very strong. And women always play a game of “bait and switch” they always rewrite the original agreement and they have no qualms about it.
I have lost most of my friends due to death and due to differences in politics (their problem)…now I have just a tiny circle of friends and that is ok.

Currently monk mode…I figure I will just do the best I can do…until I can’t anymore and then I will move where labor is much cheaper and hire a caretaker…for the moment I am just focusing on myself and my happiness. I suggest that you do the same…let the other crap go. Focus on yourself, what makes you happy, focus on your dreams, your health, and your well being and retirement.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6406]

Shameus wrote:

Anyone else experience this sort of thing?

Totally, experience loss of friends .. and neighbors .. and family. And it’s amazing how fast it happened here. Several years ago I had a number of same age great neighbors, nice older family acquaintances and relatives.

In a span of about three years virtually all gone .. neighbor buddy died, probably my best friend .. older folks all gone and family as well .. aunt, uncles, closest friend and parents. Only several distant cousins left .. one, somewhere in Thailand and one in Norway .. whom I’ve never met .. and last I heard, one adopted older cousin somewhere in Arizona.

That’s probably why I tend to dwell so much on alternate relationships, Bots and Holograms and things, no more close losses.

The entire social make-up of the world around here has changed to the point where I couldn’t have imagined this ever happening .. so quickly. I personally believe one can never really recover from some losses, close friends and family, just have to somehow live-on and accept a changed world …day by day.

When I lost my Dad on December 11, some of the little projects he and I were working on have just quit. I’ll abandon them .. we were rebuilding a small older log house into a hunting cabin before his heart attack.
I can’t re-gain the interest in it so the neighbor has it now and will finish it, someday. It’s never the same. I don’t know how anyone could ever totally recover .. or even begin to do so. Everything has changed, to the core.

[HermitParticipant]

I had a thread about losing a friend. We met when we were both married and he was constantly saying that he was on the verge of divorce and he hated his marriage. Now I’m divorced and he has a totally different outlook on marriage and apparently isn’t currently experiencing the problems that he used to with his wife. I don’t know. What I do know is that we are no longer friends and it doesn’t bother me a bit. In fact it’s a relief that I no longer have to listen to him talking about his blue pill life.

As others have posted, a true friend is a very rare thing. There’s a guy that I sometimes hang out with who I thought was my friend, but I’m becoming more and more sick of hanging around him. Typically all people are just acquaintances and not really friends and the older I get, the less friends I have or even want and the less acquaintances as well. I just prefer to be alone as much as possible. People are a pain.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

The Cult of the Golden Vagina is as bad as Jim Jones’ cult or David Koresh’s cult.

Similar tactics, including gaslighting and separating you away from your support structures, aka pushing your friends and families away. When a woman does this, she is grooming you for future psychological abuse.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[HermitParticipant]

Ranger One wrote:

The Cult of the Golden Vagina is as bad as Jim Jones’ cult or David Koresh’s cult.
Similar tactics, including gaslighting and separating you away from your support structures, aka pushing your friends and families away. When a woman does this, she is grooming you for future psychological abuse.

When all we had was a LAN line, the old cun t I was married to actually listened in on another phone to my conversations with friends. One day I caught her and she continued to stand there with the phone up to her ear. I actually had to tell the bitc h to hang up. I wonder what she expected to hear.

Not just friends, but like you said, family as well. My brother came to visit just once and the x made it clear that she didn’t want him around. Women are such nasty c unts.

Man, it’s so wonderful to be free from all that shi t.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[black_knightParticipant 2602]

I’m 40, and only ever had one ongoing, lifelong (since mid-teens) close male friend. I’ve known him since school, and watched him go through extreme loneliness, then go through the rigmarole of finding an oriental wife in a blue-pilled attempt to end that loneliness, then having a child, only now for major irreconcilable rifts to cause an almost inevitable divorce. Divorce is all he talks of now.

So in relation to your original post, for about the last 8 years (that’s how long he’s been married) I saw him give her absolute priority (he still does weirdly) and probably initiated no more than a handful of things we could do as mates (gigs etc). I initiated a lot, and occasionally he’d go with me. We’d go 2 weeks and not talk, and then perhaps meet up for 2 hours, and the first thing he’d say would be “can’t stop long, I promised my wife I’d be back by ____ o’clock”. I feel your concern mate. I’ve been there. However, we never lost contact, and never lost the friendship. We’d never go more than 3 weeks without at least a few texts. The reason I tell you this is because I always had a gut feeling his marriage would collapse, and now it has. He now phones me a bit more, and he’s started talking more about the importance of having friendships outside marriage. So I predict a bit of a swing back towards me. It’s taken 8+ years, but I’m happy about it. Perhaps one of your old friends might wake up soon and realise the importance of your friendship. Don’t be surprised if that happens.

With all my other friends, we naturally drifted apart. I don’t think any got married, but a few got with women. Then half of my other friends were women, and we’ve mostly drifted apart too. I’m always on the lookout to make new friends, with a bit of success in the last 12 months. The good thing is, they’re older (60s) and single, so likely to stay that way.

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