Longtime MGTOW but new member from Edmonton AB Canada

[Artboy99Participant 369]

Greetings all.

I have been a MGTOW since 1996, but during that time I did not know exactly who I was but earlier this year I learned a lot about MGTOW, mostly from youtube to be honest.
My story:

The last woman I was with, I had been with for nearly 8 years. When we first started dating, she actually “swept me off my feet”. She was fun, beautiful and seemed to want sex more than I did, I had never been with a women like that before. Then after about a year, and more importantly after she knew she “had” me ( because I told her I loved her ) she began to change. It became all about her life, her interests, her family and to be blunt: if I wanted to be with her I had to do the things she wanted to do. It was all about her agenda and her calendar which was hanging on the wall in our kitchen once we moved in together and the calendar was filled with her life, her friends, her activities and her – her – her. I was like a puppy following her around. The sex tapered off, and got to the point we no longer had any. It became months between then none at all. I became depressed and I admit to gaining a lot of weight as I turned to food. Her interest in me dropped even more. I told her one day that if we were to break up I would probably not date anymore. She reacted angrily to that statement, but it was the truth, I just didn’t see anything of value in bothering to have a relationship that had no give and take. The experience made me reflect on all of my previous girlfriends and I saw the same self centered behavior in all of the women I have dated.
The relationship ended, and I have been single ever since. It has been 20 years now. I honestly didn’t even care that it ended, at the time I considered her a room mate that paid her half of the rent and I was already making my own exit strategy to move on when she broke it off with me.
I have been on a few dates shortly after that break up but I instantly saw how psycho they were, as I easily spotted the very same red flags that I couldn’t see before.
It isn’t that I don’t like women, I do. I am still extremely attracted to them, and I have had some amazing conversations with women, but I just have zero interest in going through any of the B.S. they put men through.
I made the decision to try a break from women in 1996, and the plan was originally to just focus on myself for awhile and then try again. But I learned something: I like me, and I enjoy what freedom I have to do anything I want, and not have any decisions I make be negatively judged by some self centered person with their own agenda.
The time passed, and I found myself happily by myself as I watched each and every friend of mine get divorced, have custody issues with children and the financial issues of the legality of marriage they had to endure and I thank my own better judgement for never getting married.
After 2 decades I have learned I am not alone in the way I am thinking, and here I am happy to join this forum, and meet some new friends and enjoy reading what you all have to say.

[AkanbiParticipant 2120]

Welcome sir. You’re certainly not alone.

My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.

[SolidusXParticipant 854]

Congrats fellow Canadian for coming on over… I can feel your pain about women these days, gone are the days where a woman wants to take care of her man and the home like they used to do in the 50’s and 60’s. The women of today are usually just self centered, fat, boring, and really un-educated. The un-educated part really bothers me as I am dating at arms length this woman that can’t even cook basic food or even dress up nicely for me. I am mostly in it for the pussy right now but it does bother me and make me sad that true companionship like my parents and grandparents had may not exist anymore.

I am glad you were not stuck in baby jail like a lot of other brothers get trapped in and I hope your continue road on MGTOW works!.

Knowledge is power..... Don't waste your brain on bullshit

[Anonymous 3]

Welcome Artboy.
The MGTOW force is strong in you.

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2096]

Welcome. There are so many stories here of controlling bitches. Your experience is incredibly common. Much wisdom here.

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Artboy99 wrote:

I have been single ever since. It has been 20 years now.
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I have been on a few dates shortly after that break up but I instantly saw how psycho they were

Personally, I pin point “peak feminism” to be around mid-90s to 2005. I remain convinced that is the approximate point in time when things skewed off into another tangent never to return again, and that is when women became TOTALLY INCAPABLE of maintaining lasting relationships or bonding with men in any meaningful way.

Post 2010, I wouldn’t even CONSIDER dating am American female.
Not even the finest Megan Fox.

Yeah it’s just my personal thought, but as I was reading you, I was nodding the whole time.

Welcome to MGTOW and the forums. Thank you for your intro. And may the force be with you. Original trilogy fan here (but not a “fan boy”).

DanceMyOwnWay wrote:

There are so many stories here of controlling bitches

Controlling bitches are my speciality.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Back in BlackParticipant 1732]

Welcome. You are not alone.

"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.” Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

Welcome man. Good story.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[Sagaciously SingleParticipant 214]

Welcome Artboy, we’re all glad you made it to the site.

"And this you can know - fear the time when Manself will not suffer and die for a concept, for this one quality is the foundation of Manself, and this one quality is man, distinctive in the universe". - John Steinbeck.

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home Artboy99

[Catch And ReleaseParticipant 133]

Welcome. You’re certainly in the right area to be MGTOW. Spent 4 years in Alberta working in the oilfield, and that province was something else as far as women go. Maybe not as bad in the big cities, but the smaller towns I could swear the girls took classes on how to be a gold digger while they were in highschool.

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Welcome Artboy99. Glad to see you saw through the common female manipulation and escaped. Your friends getting married and divorced while you remained single was similar to what I experienced. That helps immunize one against any rash decisions to marry.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings AT99,

You have made a fine introduction and generated good replies.

Artboy99 wrote:

…..It became all about her life, her interests, her family ….. I had to do the things she wanted to do. It was all about her agenda and her calendar …… her life, her friends, her activities and her – her – her.

You nailed it brother!

Artboy99 wrote:

The sex tapered off, and got to the point we no longer had any. ….. I became depressed and I admit to gaining a lot of weight as I turned to food.

It is good that you learned your hard lessons.

Sadly, it took a lot longer for me to learn my lessons, so I continued on my great “Unicorn” hunt around the world.

When I allowed myself to be trapped in “serious” relations~~~s, the weight gain and addictive behavior like “stuffing my feelings” with food was a natural consequence.

Artboy99 wrote:

…I made the decision to try a break from women in 1996, and the plan was originally to just focus on myself for a while and then try again. But I learned something: I like me, and I enjoy what freedom I have to do anything I want…, …..The time passed, and I found myself happily by myself…..

Bravo!!!

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Clint EastwoodParticipant 323]

Welcome mate. I’m new here myself but reading your back story, I could have written that myself.

Working towards my own personal peace and well done to you sir. 🙂

Stay vigilant. They're everywhere.

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Artboy99;

Some shock similarities in our stories; you are not alone. Once a woman has ownership in some capacity, be it marriage, living together, or procreation, the proverbial worm turns.

Literally the day after marriage, my ex wife, made dramatic changes – isolating, stonewalling, dwindling sex to almost nothing. By this point my life was so enveloped in hers I had almost no friends and strained relationship with my family I was so heavily invested. I went from being idealized, to devalued and quickly discarded after 2 years married.

Your last relationship sounds like borderline/narcissistic behaviour – I think feminism breeds these characteristics and prevents all western women from pair bonding.

Regardless, I ramble. Welcome.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[rightturnclydeParticipant 705]

Welcome artboy99 from another canuck.(is 99 a Gretzky reference?). Your story parallels mine in so many ways, except unfortunately the child support part. EVERY woman I have had a serious relationship with in the last 30 years turned into a taker, no matter how nice, innocent, or NAWALT they appeared at first. I will not be fooled again. Thanks for the great intro.

[Artboy99Participant 369]

rightturnclyde wrote:

Welcome artboy99 from another canuck.(is 99 a Gretzky reference?). Your story parallels mine in so many ways, except unfortunately the child support part. EVERY woman I have had a serious relationship with in the last 30 years turned into a taker, no matter how nice, innocent, or NAWALT they appeared at first. I will not be fooled again. Thanks for the great intro.

rightturnclyde wrote:

Welcome artboy99 from another canuck.(is 99 a Gretzky reference?). Your story parallels mine in so many ways, except unfortunately the child support part. EVERY woman I have had a serious relationship with in the last 30 years turned into a taker, no matter how nice, innocent, or NAWALT they appeared at first. I will not be fooled again. Thanks for the great intro.

Hi,

the 99 is definitely a Gretzky reference. I was a season ticket holder in the 80ès and got to watch his magic several times a week. An amazing hockey player!

[rightturnclydeParticipant 705]

And now you have Mcdavid. Not fair:)

[BlakeGuyParticipant 287]

And now you have Mcdavid. Not fair:)

Winnipeg have Laine, Toronto have, well not sure he qualifies yet but Mathews. Good few years north of the border.

Let the good times roll

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