Loneliness more lethal than obesity and excessive drinking

[imiParticipant 1]

What now?

I’m angry as f~~~.

Bitches are not worthy of trust, but our social species is killed prematurely by loneliness more likely than by being a drunkard or a lazy fat f~~~.

So, basically, when a man is rejected by hypergamous freaks and pushed into solitude through relational aggression, it’s literally a cut down on his life span. It’s like a death sentence issued to be carried out a few decades later.

I’m really curious what’s gonna be your solution. I have none yet, and I really notice the extreme vigilance against social threats that this guy talks about. Basically I feel like I am f~~~ed for life. I don’t really trust anybody around me.

I invested a bunch of money and time – YEARS – into figuring out how to treat a woman – I’m a f~~~ing master in the bedroom and I know how to talk to them to get laid – but I don’t find any trustworthy woman any more. Why the f~~~ did I learn that crap?

I’m in debt, too, because I focused more on them as on my finances… At 37 years old I can sure say half of my life was wasted.

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[RoyDalParticipant]

How to be alone without being lonely? Meditation is a time-proven method. It’s been used for exactly that for centuries.

War and Peace (of Mind): Mindfulness training for military could help them deal with stress
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/05/140516092519.htm

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

I enjoy my time away from people, the only issue I have is suffering from chronic boredom. I have not been overwhelmed by female nonsense to the point where it has created stress in my life. Regardless of all the detractors, porn satisfies quite a few urges and personal fantasies. The imagination is one of man’s greatest blessings. Daydreaming has kept me sane more than anything else in my life. I try to create an environment for myself that pleases me, whether it is music, art, landscaping, my hobby of building aquariums, etc.

The only thing I have yet to overcome in my life that would make it that much more satisfying is having confidence in writing and the discipline to do it regularly.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[….Participant 305]

Although I dated I used to feel lonely myself for a long time and stupidly pitied myself for not finding “the one” like most of my friends had. Now, I am thankful for all the time outside looking in. What I saw were a bunch of pussy whipped , neutered males whose only concern was “keeping her happy”. If my “fantasy” would have come true, I probably have been one of those simps. The amount of bulls~~~ ,whining, complaining, controlling and money involved in one of these “happy unions” is amazing. I know 60 year old guys who can’t join their buddies out for a beer…seeing all  that s~~~ opened my eyes as to what men will put themselves through just to avoid being lonely. IMHO they simply trade one misery for another. I agree that living a lonely life is not healthy but being in a s~~~ty relationship can be just as bad or worse than loneliness. We are programmed all of our lives that having a mate will negate loneliness, and for a long time that was true . Sadly, today that is not the case  with the advent of the feminist movement. Western women are simply not worth the time and effort anymore. That being said, today’s women cannot fix your loneliness, they will only substitute it for another form of misery. After finally figuring this out, I found other  companionship…my two huskies are great and loyal company….and although I don’t post here often, it’s nice to enjoy the brotherhood here at MGTOW  rather than out chasing women who do not have my best interests at heart. That is not to say that I get a little lonely now and then, but it better than the alternative.  ps  IMI, the anger you feel now will hopefully turn to indifference in the future…there are plenty of smart guys here with great advice to help you get there…till then..do what is best for you  …get out of debt and go live a great life and do not let the lack of a toxic female in your life to be a “negative”.

[FractureParticipant 13]

Some excellent points here in this thread. Loneliness is debilitating, and personally it is a work in progress and there are times that I long for intimacy, companionship, somebody to talk to and socialise with regularly. Then I think of the personal and emotional price you pay for this in the long run, subjugating yourself in the hope that it will fill the whole inside you and you will feel safe secure and content. The sad truth I now believe is that the grass is always greener and it is an illusion. You simply swap personal choice and freedom for misery and unhappiness. The biggest mistake anyone can make I think is believing you need someone to make you whole. The fact is if you are involved with somebody and are giving yourself to them how can you be whole? It is not easy walking the lonely path but I have to believe it will get better and more familiar!

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

This is a good thread, and makes some good points. But as a mgtow, I’m also interested in the extent to which a man’s life is shortened by marriage to the kind of woman that is available for him today. I wonder what is the impact on life expectancy of the age of retirement for a man? Does working longer cause a shorter life or a longer one for a man. Likely, that varies with the hazards and physical wear and tear of the kind of work he does. We can assume without a great deal of research that for the average man, the financial impact of a divorce in an American court will most definitely change the date of his retirement, no matter the age at which the divorce occurs.

I won’t disagree with any of the observations made in the video above, but without a similarly well funded body of research to indicate the impact on my life expectancy of the alternative, I’m not influenced to change the decision I made to be mgtow and run out to get married in an attempt to live longer. For now, I think I’ll badge my bet as I have been, by getting the benefits of companionship from women by participating in relationships, but protecting myself by participating only in those relationships whose terms are clear and fair to me. Those opportunities are not nearly as abundant as the opportunity to get married, but this is just a choice between quality and quantity.

I don’t need an abundance of opportunity to get the benefits of just one relationship, so mgtow and never getting married is still the better choice.

Reading this thread, I’m reminded of the old joke about: why do most men die before their wives?

(Because they WANT to…)

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[John DoeParticipant 743]

F~~~ it, I rather die young.  I am going to die either way.  From my observations, of those older than me, life is a blink no matter how long you live.

Why be more miserable in a relationship?

[HimeoParticipant 471]

Japanese men live well into their 90’s due to having social bonds with other men they’ve known all of their lives.

Find a hobby you can participate in with other men. Myself, I prefer table top gaming. It has the advantage of being enjoyable AND pussy repellent.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Myself, I prefer table top gaming…

I agree.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Japanese men live well into their 90’s due to having social bonds with other men they’ve known all of their lives.

This is a good point.

This article, along with most of media culture, always equates relationships in a erotic manner.  It does not talk about anything that is not erotic.  And if it is not erotic it will be eroticized.  Even the term “bromance” is used to define male friendships now.  This is all bulls~~~.

The vast majority of human interaction is fundamentally not erotic at all.  Articles, like this one, implies loneliness with not being f~~~ed.  The two are completely separate things.  Leave it to a woman or a mangina to sexualize the non sexual.  It like dealing with a dog that will hump anything even if no other dog is around to turn it on.

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