"Living in your mom's basement." One of the worst blue pill hells ever

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

Ever since I could remember, I had a really hard time developing my social skills. An extremely hard time. Because of this, I was held back in life in regards to a lot of things. This is a benefit for me, because my lack of social skills brought me to MGTOW. I can never be thankful enough for that.

But aside from that, not having any great social skills is a really s~~~ty deal. Especially if you’re a Millinial like me. I have a min wage job as it is and I work full time, but I certainly don’t make enough money to live on my own. Much less pay for a car, insurance, and fuel.

I’ll be moving out soon either way within the next 5-7 months. I can’t be happier about that. So far however, living with my parents is a pain in the ass beyond measure.

It’s also 10x worse than marriage, because like many of us, I was taught not to be disrepectful of to my parents. This takes a f~~~ing huge toll on my overall mental health because I’m just bottling everything up.

Not to mention it’s the little things that drive me nuts. My parents treat me like I’m still a child for one. Whether they realise it or not. My mom is also in pretty s~~~ty health and any type of confrontations just makes her health worse. So I always have to keep my mouth shut whenever I disagree with her.

At the moment, my room is also being used as a storage room. So it’s almost always full of clutter. I keep it clean the best I can, but I have no room to really do anything in it. This is one of the most annoying parts of still living with my parents.

And you know how naggy wives/girlfriends can get? Well it’s 1000x worse when you’re still living with your parents because if you’re still dependent on them, you still have to do the s~~~ they tell you to do. No matter if you feel like doing it or not.

You know what’s the most annoying thing about all this? I have to “report” to them when and where I’m going and how long I’ll be out. I can’t go as I please. And I have very overprotective parents. So that s~~~ gets real old and fast.

I’ll be glad once I’m out on my own. F~~~ living with parents. If you’re still living with them in your 20s, it’s just a complete pain in the ass.

/rant over.

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[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

Now let me tell you that working by the hour for others just suck.

Hourly wage sucks huge f~~~ing b~~~~. I’d rather have a salary wage any day.

Do the math of doing that.. running your own property services venture vs standing at the mall retailer and you will make so much more and be in control.

I’m saving up for a vehicle. A cheap one I can find on Craigslist somewhere. Once I end up getting my own vehicle, I plan on doing a lot of odd jobs along with my full time job.

Create it out of thin air. How? Go to to library and get used to going there. Pull out all sorts of books on how to.. HOW TO.

I’ll definitely look into that. I love reading as far as non-fiction books go.

Most likely you have some type of autism

I have no idea if I have autism or not. My mom thinks I have classic autism which would definitely explain why I struggle in social situations. Up until I turned 18, I coudln’t even look a person straight in the eye. I had to force myself to do that kinda s~~~.

So consider a job in one of the following Information Technology (IT), medical or food or transportation.

What I want to end up doing is going into either programming or system administration. I love practicing that type of work on my own computer.

Staying in your home town just sucks.

It does. I can’t stand it at all.

quote quote=253140]Also.. watch youtube and learn how to cook. Take out will slay you.[/quote]

I love cooking. The only time I ever eat out is on the weekend. Otherwise, I’d rather cook my own meals to save money. Just this morning even, I cooked fried potatoes, peppers, onions, eggs, and chicken up for breakfast. Better than take out any day of the week.

Lastly, you do NOT hate women.
Mgtow is NOT about hating anyone.
It is about you, how you live your life and the focus that you have.

I gave up the red pill rage long ago. I’m pretty stoic as it is in regards to feminists and tradcons.

If you must get out…then you have a few options…

What I want to do after I get my own car is to get a cheap camper to haul around. You’re right about renting and I’d hate to become a rental slave. Especially with the lack of funds I have.

Once I have my camper, I’ll turn that into my bunker. And best of all, I can haul it around almost anywhere I want in Vegas. Down here, they’re not so anal about parking spots. Which is awesome.

Do NOT make TV or Video games your life. Moderation guys.

I definitely do. I hate modern TV as it is. And I hate watching classics on TV as they just “bleep” out the cuss words. It’s annoying as s~~~. I mainly stick to anime and classic movies. Better alternative all around.

Great advice though Stealthy. Your posts are as long as short books and I always love reading them.

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[globemasterParticipant 443]

Anthony wrote:

It’s also 10x worse than marriage, because like many of us, I was taught not to be disrepectful of to my parents. This takes a f~~~ing huge toll on my overall mental health because I’m just bottling everything up.

From my experience, parents are a lot better than gf/wife.

Parents are lesser of the two evils.

I always hated living with my parents and thought getting a gf and marriage was cool. After a few years i found that it was very stressfull compared to the former.

Best option is living alone in a nearby city and visiting parents once in a week.

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

globemaster wrote:

From my experience, parents are a lot better than gf/wife.

Yeah but at least in marriage/relations~~~s, you can always say “f~~~ off” without the extra baggage of guilt you’d have if you did that to your parents.

My parents “kill me with kindness” in a lot of ways. Which is why I prefer to live alone and why I’m working as hard as I can to get my own place.

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[The_YoungParticipant 1073]

I’m 20 and still living with them too. You’re right, it does bring a LOT of disadvantages. I’m very neat and organized, while they leave stuff everywhere. This is one of my biggest peeves. They always ask where I’m going, its harder to get my privacy, I have to do chores that have nothing to do with me etc.

I’m gonna be living with them for probably the next five years, But I’m still appreciative for them. As stubborn as they are, They bring a lot of goodness to my life and are a big help if I’m ever feeling down. Dont rush to move out

Brother, we need to stick together.

[WallyParticipant]

I know it sucks right now, and they are overprotective, and I can only imagine that it is annoying as all get out. That being said, you do have plans to leave, from my experience with my parents try to enjoy the moments you have with them at this time, even though they are annoying. In life we have no promises that anyone will love us, it sounds like your parents do.

Your parents treat you like a child, they always will. I am in the medical field and when my father was ill, I tried to give him advice and I saw the look in his eyes that he views me as a child (I was 29 at the time). It annoyed me at the time, but now I can look back and appreciate the love.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[MadmanParticipant 772]

I am 36 and moving back IN with my dad. I think its going to be fun. Drinking beers with my dad, walking my dog, living mostly rent free. And I will be paying zero income taxes from here on out.

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

The_Young wrote:

They always ask where I’m going, its harder to get my privacy, I have to do chores that have nothing to do with me etc.

That’s the most annoying part about living with your parents as an adult. If they stopped doing s~~~ like that, I wouldn’t mind living with them for the most part.

Wally wrote:

Your parents treat you like a child, they always will.

Definitely. But it’s easier to deal with that fact once you’re moved out. Dealing with that kind of stuff 24/7 in your twenties is a bitch.

Madman wrote:

Drinking beers with my dad, walking my dog, living mostly rent free. And I will be paying zero income taxes from here on out.

Ha, I wish it was just me and my dad. But, it’s me, my dad, and my mom. When you add any woman to the equation, it’s even s~~~tier.

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[narwhalParticipant]

Anthony wrote:

Yeah but at least in marriage/relations~~~s, you can always say “f~~~ off” without the extra baggage of guilt you’d have if you did that to your parents.

Completely disagree. There is tons of guilt associated with divorce. Why bother making that comparison? Does it really matter who is the worse victim?

I think you’re looking at this the wrong way. I understand why all this is frustrating to you, but you are an adult and under no obligation to stay. You said you’re staying because you cannot afford to live on your own. It’s a good thing that you have parents who can shelter you when you cannot. Sure, it’s important for you to strive and get to the point where you can take care of yourself, and wanting a better life is admirable. But you aren’t there. When you do, you will have your parents (Dad at least) to thank, despite all their faults.

Ok. Then do it.

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

narwhal wrote:

Completely disagree. There is tons of guilt associated with divorce. Why bother making that comparison? Does it really matter who is the worse victim?

I made that comparison because at least I was taught to respect my parents more than anyone else. So for me, it’s definitely worse in that regard.

Spouses get into childish fights all the time. Kids and parents do also, but to me, parents almost always have a bigger authority over you no matter how old you are. Which is why I try to avoid those childish fights. And which is why I simply can’t tell my parents to “f~~~ off” whenever I feel like it like I could if I were married.

narwhal wrote:

You said you’re staying because you cannot afford to live on your own. It’s a good thing that you have parents who can shelter you when you cannot.

Either way, I’m moving out within 5-7 months so I don’t have to deal with the bulls~~~ any longer. I know I have no obligation to stay with my parents, but I have a very small amount of funds in my bank account right now. Certainly not much to live off on. Which is why I’m taking a few extra months to at least save up for a vehicle before I move out.

narwhal wrote:

Sure, it’s important for you to strive and get to the point where you can take care of yourself, and wanting a better life is admirable. But you aren’t there. When you do, you will have your parents (Dad at least) to thank, despite all their faults.

I’m definitely thankful for that. In more ways than 1.

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[narwhalParticipant]

You were not taught to respect your wife/girlfriend? Do you honestly think you could tell a wife/girlfriend to f~~~ off with no consequences? Not saying your situation doesn’t suck, but your understanding of what occurs in marriage seems lacking. It’s not an issue, since you aren’t looking to get married. Still, your comparison sounds naïve.

Ok. Then do it.

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

narwhal wrote:

You were not taught to respect your wife/girlfriend? Do you honestly think you could tell a wife/girlfriend to f~~~ off with no consequences

I honestly have no idea why you’re getting so anal with a simple comparison. You don’t get to choose your parents in life. You do however get to choose a wife/girlfriend if you ever had one. So to me, the respect issue is far greater with your parents than with your wife/girlfriend.

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[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Save your money, never use credit cards and then become a real estate investor. Since you worked on property.. you know this s~~~.
A gal just filled my wallet again from rent.

What do you reccommend for that in an area like Seattle where the properties are so overpriced that there’s no way the millenials will ever be able to afford to buy at these prices?

We’re at like 5-8x annual income for a purchase price around here. One little economic hiccup around here and most of these houses are in default.

I can’t picture a millenial coming along with a bucket of money and a box of stupid to buy me out in 20 years for what I paid plus 20 yrs of “appreciation” (interest in econ terms). The math just doesn’t work, and I somehow doubt that China will pick up the slack.

That means we’re way overvalued. Which in turn means we’re due for a crash. The problems that led to the 2007-2008 “hiccup” still haven’t been fixed at the fundamental level.

I am honestly asking for advice – I would like to own property that I could improve etc, but unless I’m missing something, the numbers here in the Northwest just don’t pencil out.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Love to, but it’s the raw land that’s so expensive. I think a large percentage of property buys here are just for the land and any existing structure is torn down. Not much for “raw land” available except out in the boonies more than an hour drive away. And even there I suspect it’s overpriced.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[experiencedParticipant]

Title solves the reason for the situation.
“…mom’s basement.”
Years ago, it would’ve been “living in your parents’ basement”.
The “mom’s basement” came before and caused the mess things are in today.
Nowadays young men have to imagine, “what would my dad have told me, how would he be guiding me.”

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[WhackerGuy2030Participant 999]

You don’t have to settle for minimum wage. Industries are begging for people to take truck driving, construction, and manufacturing jobs. Put yourself out there and show willingness to work and learn. Tell those employers what you can do for them. You can rise quickly in those jobs if you show up, work, and add value.
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In the meantime, you can begin racking up skills that you’ll use the rest of your life. If I was that age and in your boat, I’d go on a tour racking up skills in different jobs. You’ll meet great people and develop your social skills.
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When I was younger, I was involved in crop farming, dairy farming, beef cattle, truss building, roofing, concrete, and sheet rock. I wish I would have done even more so I could learn more tools and building skills. I really wish I would have been exposed to more mechanical as well.

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

WhackerGuy2030 wrote:

If I was that age and in your boat, I’d go on a tour racking up skills in different jobs. You’ll meet great people and develop your social skills.

I’ll look into that as well. I’m willing to work anywhere (except fast food joints). My main problem is getting over the social issue aspect of it all. And I’ve also been working on my social issues as well to better cope with those situations.

WhackerGuy2030 wrote:

I really wish I would have been exposed to more mechanical as well.

Once I get enough money saved up, I’d love to end up learning some mechanical skills. I plan on getting a car and fixing it up so in that way, I can learn how cars work and gain more skills in repairing them.

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