Little' Kim and his EMP dreams.

[chirParticipant]

Keep an eyeball on the situation with NK. Don’t think they have any EMP nukes in orbit but someone will. Eventually, if not already.

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/05/08/exclusive-congressional-expert-north-korea-prepping-emp-warfare-aimed-u-s-homefront/

So what would happen if Little Kim popped a 10kt nuke 72 miles above the USA? Well most transformers in the USA would fry from the massive electrical surge generated by the induction of current in the web of power transmission wires across the USA. Power transformers of the major kind take years to build, we don’t have enough spares and cost hundreds of millions. So. Cars, planes and most transportation not dependent on the power grid would be generally ok. What would the consequences be if the power grid was down for 6 months to a year?

Potential Sequence of Events After “Lights Out”

Thousands trapped in elevators

ALL electrical appliances shut down-refrigerators, heating, A/C

ATM machines are inoperative

Banks and other businesses shut down

Gas stations without generators cannot pump fuel

Water faucets begin to run dry in some areas without utility generators

Toilets will no longer flush without water pressure

Drug stores and supermarkets being stripped

Law enforcement overwhelmed by emergencies and outbreaks of looting

Batteries on laptops, cell phones, and flashlights are dying

Conflicting descriptions of power outage, unknown expected duration

Officials disagree regarding recommended actions

Bridges, tunnels, highways becoming clogged with refugees

Gas stations running out of fuel (those that could pump)

Water is at a premium

Some emergency generators assist in pumping water and sewage (limited)

Many ‘unprepared’ are running out of food

Beginning to panic, discovering widespread outage ramifications

The “Oh $hit” moment of realization…

Any .gov emergency rations are depleted

Many of the elderly and infirm have died

Hospitals overwhelmed and struggling to perform emergency services

Military attempts to maintain semblance of order, but not enough personnel

Looting (especially cities) has become rampant

Millions upon millions are ‘on their own’

People have become deeply frightened and fear for their lives

Most are now entirely running out of food to eat

Many are dying in regions without access to water

Many are dying in regions/climates where there is no heat (if during winter)

Disease (e.g. typhoid fever, cholera) from eating tainted food, water, poor sanitation

Martial Law is declared (perhaps/probably much sooner)

Many drug-dependent patients are dying

The millions with severe psychotic disorders (no more meds) create bedlam

People and communities fighting over resources

Home invasions and violence-related die-offs

Escaped prisoners, organized gangs, more violence-related die-off

Communities are slowly starving

3 months, 70% – 90% are dead

The issue of all the bodies…

This is one of those TEOTWAWKI events I prepare the best I can for but hope to God never happens. It would mean most of my family would die. My father and mother for sure because they need med’s. A good chunk of my family lives near cities, which would go ape-s~~~. Not to mention that if this happened to the USA, every country in the world which has an axe to grind with us would show up to claim land, under the guise of “humanitarian aid”.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

It is likely such claims might be made by other groups whom would like to do an EMP attack on the U.S. to create a open tyrannical police state, while blaming another foreign group for the EMP attack.

Such people forget a few important issues.

The fifty percent of population whom voted for tyranny/democrat in the last election are mostly confined to a handle of large cities.

The lights go out, those cities are going to be burn to the ground, leaving mostly the rural nationalists as the survivors.

EMP does not effect guns and ammo.

The government does not have the resources to control the entire U.S. population by force. The government will be stretched to thin keeping the nuclear reactors from melting down and keeping those in the city from killing each other, to concern themselves with the rural areas.

EMP will effect the cellphones, tvs, and other devices used to spy on the american people and to brainwash the american people.

Perhaps the spy equipment on the government side is shielded. Given shortsightedness and corruption in government, you never know. Still, if the equipment on the government side is shielded, everything else is not shielded.

This is like saying the black box of an airplane is shielded. Sure the black box of the airplane is shielded, but nothing else on the airplane is shielded.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Excellent post. I’ve been doing the prep thing for a while. I have several months of food stockpiled, and keep about 50 gallons of water in a tank. I also have a system for collecting rain water. I’d like to get a manually operated pump for a well but that is proving harder than I thought. I also plan on starting to set up some small solar collectors—enough for a hot plate or small fridge. and power a battery recharger. I’ve also acquired a wood stove an a propane driven stove.

And of course I plenty of weapon and ammo. The biggest issue is water. I really need to find a way to get a hand pumped well…any ideas?

[RennieParticipant]

Where’s Pierce Brosnan when you need him?

[chirParticipant]

PistolPete wrote:

Excellent post. I’ve been doing the prep thing for a while. I have several months of food stockpiled, and keep about 50 gallons of water in a tank. I also have a system for collecting rain water. I’d like to get a manually operated pump for a well but that is proving harder than I thought. I also plan on starting to set up some small solar collectors—enough for a hot plate or small fridge. and power a battery recharger. I’ve also acquired a wood stove an a propane driven stove.

And of course I plenty of weapon and ammo. The biggest issue is water. I really need to find a way to get a hand pumped well…any ideas?

Bison makes the gold standard in manual well pumps. If you have a well with an electric pump you can put the bison on the cap and leave it there as an alternative to electric.

I have both solar and a wind turbine to keep my battery bank powered. I put LED in for all my lights so I can maintain my well water pressure indefinitely. Of course I am not a noob. I also realize people will see the solar panels and wind turbine. I expect problems with raiders and such. I have plans for that as well.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Good thing I don’t waste my time on these movies

[Anonymous 0]

Are there any nay-sayers that dispute all of these EMP effects? Remember all the supposed things that were going to happen with Y2K. Toasters f~~~ing microwave ovens and etc… that never happened.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

EMP is very real. It has been tested and measured so it is the real mccoy.

[Anonymous 0]

I bet my AR will still work though.

edit: oh s~~~, I got a red-dot sight.

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

While a lot of that guy says (if not all of it) our military has been spending a ton of money hardening it’s systems. Power companies have been doing the same. But there is still too much of our power system that is out of date and extremely vulnerable to EMP attack. The longer Glorious Leader waits to hit us the more of our power systems will be protected from EMP attacks. I think our biggest worry is hackers. If they can get into our systems they can simply shut it down. There are efforts underway to stop those kind of attacks as well.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

RE: Chir. Spoke to the Bison folks and the local dealer. I’d like to do it but the price tag is a little high. I would have to take out a home improvement mortgage loan to do this. I guess I’m stuck with the rain barrel.

[chirParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Are there any nay-sayers that dispute all of these EMP effects? Remember all the supposed things that were going to happen with Y2K. Toasters f~~~ing microwave ovens and etc… that never happened.

They found out about it by accident. Nuclear tests called Starfish Prime in 1962.

The other natural EMP is from an X class Coronal Mass Ejection, commonly known as an CME. Last big one occurred in the mid 1800’s. Called the Carrington Event. Reports of Auroras seen in Florida and Cuba. Telegraphs across the world were seen sparking and catching on fire or giving the telegraph operators a near lethal shock.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

PistolPete wrote:

EMP is very real. It has been tested and measured so it is the real mccoy.

An EMP attack without nuclear destruction is an instant disenfranchisement of entire populations. Historically that is a situation that most sane regimes try to avoid because revolt is almost a certainty in such situations.

An EMP attack could boomerang back on the attacker.

The fallout of a disenfranchised people is almost always a regime which becomes militarist. The nation will begin conquering its neighboring nations to reclaim the wealth the nation has lost.

Throw in the fact the U.S. is a nuclear power and would likely remain a nuclear power afterward, this would create massive problems for the rest of the world.

[Anonymous 14]

DPRK isn’t gonna do jack s~~~. Unless that is they are provoked/attacked, then who knows what will happen next. I suggest not poking the stick into the beehive.

[Anonymous 6]

I wouldn’t worry about lil kim over there with his bombs. He has the bombs, but has NO WAY of getting them over here. That’s why every time he tests a missile, it either blows up before it is launched, or blows up immediately after launching. They have nothing that can carry a bomb across the Pacific Ocean. Plus if they ever did, keep in mind where Korea is, and where the United States is.

The closet state to Korea is California, will we really be sad about Cali going bye bye?? Now eventually Korea will become capable to send a missile across the ocean, so its something that needs to be addressed. Yes, we lost Vietnam, but nowadays North Korea can’t f~~~ with us in any sustained attack. All we have to do is bomb their nuclear sites and their sitting ducks. Does the term “MOAB” ring any bells??

Hard to attack us back when their sites are gone.Calm down guys

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Anonymous wrote:

, but has NO WAY of getting them over here

Yes he does–hidden in a container ship.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

DPRK isn’t gonna do jack s~~~. Unless that is they are provoked/attacked,

Don’t be so sure of that. The provocation for a first strike from NK could come entirely from within the country’s own quite schizophrenic power structure. They are simply not stable enough a country to be trusted with nuclear weapons.

Even the Chinese don’t trust them, and that’s where it will probably start. North Korea will build a few devices, successfully test one, the Chinese will respond by cutting off energy supplies and massing troops and material, North Korea will see this and freak out, and make a first strike against Chinese forces on the border out of paranoia.

Anonymous wrote:

The closet state to Korea is California, will we really be sad about Cali going bye bye??

Hawaii, actually. And there are U.S. territories closer than that. But really an attack on the U.S. isn’t the problem with NK. Their ambitions and the threat they pose to all their neighbors are forcing an ever increasing militarization of the area to counter them. Even Japan is abandoning it’s post-WW2 pacifist position. The last thing we need is for the Asian economic theater to become increasingly heavily armed and increasingly jumpy thanks to crazy ass North Korea. There’s already enough s~~~ coming down over the South China Sea without Kim Jong du Jour stirring things up.

Anonymous wrote:

North Korea can’t f~~~ with us in any sustained attack.

North Korea can’t f~~~ with anyone in any sustained attack. If it weren’t for China backing them up, South Korea could walk over them in minutes. But NK can do a lot of damage in a single first strike before being wiped from the face of the earth. Sustained economic damage.

PistolPete wrote:

Yes he does–hidden in a container ship.

It’s a little difficult to get a container ship up to the altitude necessary to properly propagate an EMP. The threat of NK isn’t so much directly militarily against the U.S. It’s more the long term economic damage they can do by disrupting the Asian economic theater.

[Anonymous 11]

Anonymous wrote:

will we really be sad about Cali going bye bye??

Other than any MGTOWs, the answer is no.

NK would be rendered into glass if he were to attempt it.

sidecar wrote:

It’s a little difficult to get a container ship up to the altitude necessary to properly propagate an EMP

Not with a missile launcher embedded in a 53′ shipping container or even a short box 40′(???).

PistolPete wrote:

The biggest issue is water.

My Berkey filtration system and one of the many fresh water ponds within bicycle distance is my plan.

Anonymous wrote:

I bet my AR will still work though.

So will my AR, but I plan on using my SKS, shotgun, and .45 ACP.

[Anonymous 42]

Kim Dung Ill is the kinda kid you don’t feel bad when an M-80 goes off in his hand blowing his fingers off, being blinded and having his eardrum ruptured, lets hope he has a nuclear accident with some CIA help, perhaps replace the wick with primer cord?

[Anonymous 14]

sidecar wrote:

Joe Bauers wrote:

DPRK isn’t gonna do jack s~~~. Unless that is they are provoked/attacked,

Don’t be so sure of that. The provocation for a first strike from NK could come entirely from within the country’s own quite schizophrenic power structure. They are simply not stable enough a country to be trusted with nuclear weapons.

Uh, all evidence points to the U.S.’s own schizophrenic power structure being far more unstable and likely to attack others at anytime than any other country in existence currently. And to make a boogeyman out of who they wish to attack is always their first step. Not surprising that you take that step here.

Also, I am sure the CIA is hard at work within the DPRK trying to assassinate or cause internal turmoil per usual.

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