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Hi I am new here and will proceed directly to introduction after this post.
This is a list that I want everyone to add to. I just read “Advice for Men About the American Woman – Bradley Moore – Google Books” a few weeks ago and it was pretty enlightening about how the laws in America have been increasingly slanted for women to take advantage of men. Here are a few things I learned from the book, and much of it I didn’t know. I am not going to list exact laws when in reality all that matter is the practical and pragmatic application of them.
1) If a man has consensual sex with a woman, he has legally agreed (practically speaking) to have a child and to support it for 18 to 21 years (depending on jurisdiction.) The only ways to combat this is to not make your sperm available (vasectomy, flush your used condom… trash can is not enough particularly if you are wealthy etc.) DO NOT trust a woman is on birth control or that she will consult you about getting pregnant. In general, her friends opinions are more important than yours about childbearing.
2) NEVER EVER EVER acknowledge in a court that you are a child’s father for any reason without certain proof such as a paternity test, unless you don’t mind being on the hook for 18-21 years of child support. If you admit paternity in court by just saying a simple “Yes” to the wrong question, you WILL BE held liable for support even if a paternity test later shows that you are not the biological father. and even if the biological father becomes known (and according to a PA case, even if the woman goes back to the biological father with the child. TRUE STORY.)
3) A woman can claim that you have a father relationship with her child if you have lived together over 3 years (depends on jurisdiction) and get child support.
4) Child support is roughly 1/3 of your income BEFORE taxes for ONE child, closer to 50% PRETAX for 2. Men having multiple children to multiple women have been know to be court ordered to pay OVER 100% of what they make, which is impossible. There is a little used law in a few jurisdictions that men reserve the right to keep an amount related to a calculation based on the poverty level, but your lawyer has to be on top of that.
5) In some states (like NY,) you may be subject for LIFETIME alimony if you marry a woman, regardless of children. Of course the longer the marriage the higher the chances of this happening, but you could end up in front of a feminist judge.
6) Women have the right to determine everything about offspring, independent of your choice or supposed rights. They can choose to abort, abandon at a hospital, or raise a child on your dime. Many know the loopholes to keep you from seeing the child if that’s what they want (abusive, drug user etc.) They also do not have to spend any of your child support on the child, and have to show no proof or accountability to anyone about how they use child support. Women are grossly assumed to always have the child’s interest at heart. The only way around this is to get custody, and that is difficult unless the woman has a prior documented history of drug abuse, mental health issues or some other very serious problem.
7) Any money, gifts, food, stuff for school etc bought for the child out of your pocket is considered a gift freely given and does not count toward child support. Only what is paid to the state and then disbursed to the woman is considered child support except in certain narrow cases (a medical bill is paid directly by you, but be careful because as before, it is by jurisdiction.)
8) Prenuptial agreements are not full proof. Women can have them thrown out and then take half plus alimony plus child support.
9) If a woman up and decides to quit her job to become a housewife without consulting you, if may be time to leave her immediately. Once she has established herself as a longtime housewife, you will be on the hook to support her financially to keep whatever lifestyle she has adopted, if she decides to leave you.
10) Women have some protection to their private property that men do not have. The law is stated in the book. Not sure if it was federal but it was clearly protective of women’s property and not men’s. As men your property will be divvied up if things go south, or if the woman just wants out on a whim.
11) Before you are married, most of the laws regarding property and money put you on equal footing with women (unless you have children together.) After marriage, the power clearly goes to the women. A clear majority of divorces are initiated by women, and why not? It favors them financially and in just about every other way. Men who marry women give up a lot of power and any chance of equality in the courts.
12) Men can be accused of crimes such as domestic violence, assault, rape etc and be put in jail until it is sorted out (even if the woman abuses the man and the man is the one who called 911.) In most cases there are no criminal laws that will allow for the man to have the woman prosecuted if she lies (though civil court is an expensive option.) In the rare instance that your jurisdiction has a law to this effect, often the district attorney will elect not to pursue in the interest of “not discouraging real FEMALE victims form coming forward.” Note the hypocrisy as the men are the victims here.
13) Women can consent to sex, then change their mind if they don’t like you or how they are treated after, and claim rape. Not that they will be successful, but even if they are not, and they lied, their is mostly no consequence for them.
14) In many jurisdictions, if you move out of your shared living space from your wife, it is automatic grounds for divorce. If you set up a tent or sleep on the couch and take pictures, it looks much better in court for you.
15) In many jurisdictions if you decide to share your domicile with a female, you cannot just kick her out, even if she is not on the lease, doesn’t pay for anything etc. In many cases you need a court hearing. Not so the other way around. If she gets a restraining order and the place has her name on it, you are gone buddy!
This is most of the points.
My takeaways…
1) DO NOT GET MARRIED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
2) Know your local laws especially regarding the kangaroo court they call family court.
3) Do not let any woman have direct access to your sperm
4) Know that you are agreeing to father children (at least financially) if you have unprotected sex.
5) For those of you who want children (like me) think very hard about the real costs ($200k or more not including college)
6) and ESPECIALLY consider and know the woman that you want to have kids with. Its very easy for them to take you to the cleaners and not be held accountable.
7) Women want men to remain ignorant and not know these laws (or the application of them) until after you have been trapped. This i believe is exactly related to what MGTOW is combating.
The welfare state is basically a bachelor tax. We pay for raising children and supporting mothers we have never met who live in places we have never been.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
What’s not to like 😊
Anonymous25A large part of the problem is feminist lawyers.
There aren’t enough men in the legal professions and the ones that do work there don’t tend to work in areas that impact gender such as family law and they are a bunch of white knights anyway.
Red pill men need to flood the legal profession and start fighting. This is what feminists did. There is a small handful of male lawyers fighting men’s corner, but they can’t fight this battle on their own and we seriously need more male lawyers. This will eventually lead to red pill male judges and red pill men who make and draft the laws.
Not only lawyers, but judges too. And politicians that bend to feminists to get their vote. Also many of the other power structures other than private businesses bend to the unfair will of feminists
If any woman or child accuses you of something, you will be considered guilty until proven innocent, automatically.
If any woman or child accuses you of something, you will be considered guilty until proven innocent, automatically.
Yes, and in Canada even if it doesn’t result in a charge , ANYTHING SHE SAYS OR ACCUSES YOU OF, or if a charge is dropped, or stayed, here’s the big one…. IT WILL BE VISIBLE ON A CRIMINAL RECORD VULNERABLE SEARCH REPORT…….
This means if you are applying for a professional license or job such as a doctor, police officer, or even if you just want to coach hockey, this will come up on the search, your constitutional rights will be violated and you will have to explain the circumstances to the regulating body or person/panel interviewing you, for something you were FALSELY ACCUSED OF. Do you think you will get the job after that?
Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
Each time I have the thought that the US has gone downhill, I always look up to Canada, and feel so much better. Thx Canada.
Anonymous5Sounds like a good book. I may check it out.
If any woman or child accuses you of something, you will be considered guilty until proven innocent, automatically.
Yes, and in Canada even if it doesn’t result in a charge , ANYTHING SHE SAYS OR ACCUSES YOU OF, or if a charge is dropped, or stayed, here’s the big one…. IT WILL BE VISIBLE ON A CRIMINAL RECORD VULNERABLE SEARCH REPORT……. This means if you are applying for a professional license or job such as a doctor, police officer, or even if you just want to coach hockey, this will come up on the search, your constitutional rights will be violated and you will have to explain the circumstances to the regulating body or person/panel interviewing you, for something you were FALSELY ACCUSED OF. Do you think you will get the job after that?
The vulnerable sector check is by far the most formidable of the three. I checked my local police force’s policies, seems in the last few months they’ve had a change in attitude. Non conviction records are now only released under “extraordinary” circumstances and only if it’s a vulnerable sector check. But it is very important for every guy here to avoid the cops and any run in’s with the law regardless.
Non conviction records are now only released under “extraordinary” circumstances and only if it’s a vulnerable sector check.
Apparently each department can make their own mind up how they want to approach this. “extraordinary circumstances can be anything”. There are no laws to protect us.
If a woman has ever accused you of anything and reported it to the police, and I mean anything, you want to check for it on your own to see if you can request to have it removed before you do the search while looking for employment or getting professionally licensed.
Canada eh, no more constitutional rights here eh. What’s that all a-booot?
Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
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