List of Statistics Needed

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  • #65175
    RolledGold
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    I was explaining to a colleague of mine the condition of men in the United States and he asked me a great question. Is there any statistical data behind any of this or is it just anecdotal information?

    As a new member I did a quick browse through the site and had originally found a few statistics regarding women not contributing to healthcare in the USA, the number of divorses created by women etc. but in a more recent search those statistics are more difficult to find than I thought.

    Doing a google search for male rights statistics was even less fruitful.

    Maybe it’s time to have a statistics post where members gather statistic data (hard evidence) to support our cause. Otherwise it is easy to make the argument that the men here are judging all women by the negative experiences that we have had with the women in our lives and stupid mistakes that we ourselves have made in choosing the wrong women.

    A statistical fact sheet would benefit all, but where to begin?

    #65182
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    I don’t think you will find much. Any information that would put any kind of responsibility on women’s shoulders or that would give men some kind of relief is quickly dismissed and/or subverted. Just look at the studies that “proves” women are smarter then men. The study was made during the period of time where women had her brains already fully matured, where males were still maturing. They never got the volume of brain mass in consideration (males are bigger), they never did IQ tests again after that phase (after the male brain was also fully mature), and even then, after all the evidence pointed at the clear advantage men had, they concluded somehow women were “smarter” because, vagina. Even in their choices in career, men took jobs that require more brainpower then their female counter-parts did.

    So, if you want official “hard evidence” that points out men’s problems and women’s faults, you will be left wanting. If are looking for evidence, look no further than the divorce laws then, or the news, and the implications of those. Look at numerous stories of men here and elsewhere , and compare it to what you see in life. Don’t let others think for you, think for yourself. Or you can ignore all that and just “get married”, or get a woman. See how far does that road take you.

    Cheers.

    #65195
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    http://www.uplifting-love.com/2013/08/80-percent-of-divorces-are-filed-by.html

    “Eighty percent of the divorces are filed by women.”

    “There,  now it’s your turn, Rolled Gold.

     the number of divorses created by women etc. but in a more recent search those statistics are more difficult to find than I thought.

    don’t give up on us rolled gold.

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #65196
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    Crazy Canuck
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    I don’t know about the healthcare stuff because I never really bothered with it. However with divorce there are stats.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/201311/do-men-or-women-file-divorce-more-often

    "If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

    #65204
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    Crazy Canuck
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-hughes/is-the-us-divorce-rate-go_b_4908201.html

    http://www.avvo.com/legal-guides/ugc/marriage-divorce-statistics

    "If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

    #65233
    RolledGold
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    Alright guys… can we stay on topic here? Lets try and find actual statistics or even statements that we feel are easy to prove and try to come up with a cohesive argument.

    So far I have:

     

    1. Men are considered disposable by our society.

    This is an interesting subject and I can definitely relate to, having felt disposable at many different times with different women. Why do we feel disposable? Probably because any woman can easily find a man who will sleep with her and men don’t find it so easy. But it goes beyond that…

    What other ways are we disposable? Putting women and children first. Life boats are for women and children, when there is a food shortage, women are expected to eat first. This has probably come about because women are the limiting factor to the success of a civilization. Men are expected to put themselves dead last. Men have always been the ones to go to war and throw their lives away for the greater good of everyone.

    2. Women cause 80% of divorces.

    Not getting married and definitely not marrying someone that you see the red flags is going to be the best bet here. Other than that a no nonsense prenup could save your ass a lot of struggle and time. Not dating women that just want you for your utility is also a good step if you can find them.

    3.  Women should be allowed to be prostitutes.

    This is just a win win win. No further explanation necessary.

     

    What else can you guys come up with?

    #65234
    RolledGold
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    #65237
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    Morlock, can you find this study and post it so that this isn’t just anecdotal??

    Lets keep this ON TRACK by ONLY INCLUDING factual information, studies etc.

    #65240
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    For a moment lets pretend we don’t need statistics. Clearly we live in a society where women collect MASSIVE OFFENSIVE payouts for being bad wives and mothers. They ENCOURAGE it.

    “That’s David… he has a house in the Hamptons and a Mercedes. Here, hold my drink”.

    “LOL!! YOU GO GIRL!!!”

    It’s not just anecdotal. It’s LEGAL pre-meditated financial rape.
    And it’s openly encourage in media, TV shows, films and everyday conversation.

    Now if you want FACTS, Some time ago I came across this PDF I forgot to bookmark, showing it is the VAST majority of women who file for divorce because they are rewarded for it… and why they do it. I finally found it again.

    Called: “THESE BOOTS ARE MADE FOR WALKING”. Check it out here

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #65250
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    OK Rolled Gold, what statistics have you found?

    C’mon, let’s keep on track here, what have you dug up for the rest of us?

    We need more statistics, this is definitely a good cause and we are awaiting what you’ve “brought to the table.”

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #65254
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    Here is an official Statistics Canada report (a government agency tasked with collecting data to better understand our population, geography, environment, etc) titled “Measuring Violence Against Women: Statistical Trends“.  It is an interesting read: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2013001/article/11766-eng.htm

    The study details how 83% of all violence among “intimate partners” is perpetrated by men according to police reports (chart 1.2).

    However, when self reporting methods were used, the number of men and women who claim to have been the victim of domestic assault is roughly equal (chart 1.7).

    The study does not attempt to explain why there is such a difference between police reports and self reports.  Might have something to do with the title of the study itself.

     

    #65255
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    Crazy Canuck
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    Most men who don’t get it will go ahead and marrying or live with a woman. Smart men learn from other men. Stupid men do it anyways and screwed royally of partially. There’s plenty of men who listen to Tom Leykis show.
    Men be thrown in jail for being behind alimony payment, child support, false rape or domestic abuse. If a guy doesn’t get that he probably never will.

    "If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

    #65256
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    Snake
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    How’s this for on track: Do your own research. Use google. Read the forum.

    How many times does it have to be said?: Any Woman Can Choose To Be Like That. The system and courts are in females favor in child support, alimony, domestic violence, false rape charges, sexual harassment. That is all the *hard evidence* you need. Now f~~~ off.

    #65257
    GoneSolo
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    A glitch just now which displayed a sudden mismatch in usernames and avatar images. That was my fault as we’re working on the user ids. Everybody on the site was bumped +8 ids by accident for a few seconds. Sorry everyone.

    #65258
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    As a new member I did a quick browse through the site and had originally found a few statistics regarding women not contributing to healthcare in the USA, the number of divorces created by women etc. but in a more recent search those statistics are more difficult to find than I thought

    1. Start with your state government websites

    2. State records for welfare recipients, healthcare statitics.

    3. Move up to your federal websites for further information

    4. Read and watch the news

    Maybe it’s time to have a statistics post where members gather statistic data (hard evidence) to support our cause. Otherwise it is easy to make the argument that the men here are judging all women by the negative experiences that we have had with the women in our lives and stupid mistakes that we ourselves have made in choosing the wrong women.

    Maybe it is time for people who discredit what is really going on, to provide the evidence to the contrary. Also, its not hard to make a “stupid mistakes that we ourselves have made in choosing the wrong woman” when the choices presented are not factual at all, but based solely on deceit.

    I don’t mind helping out, but damned if I’m going to do all the work.

    There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

    #65262
    RolledGold
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    I’m having trouble finding statistics on this site or elsewhere, I was hoping that some of the more informed members would be able to point me in the right direction which to some extent they have. I guess there aren’t any real easy answers.

    Nice one Snake, go on someone else’s page and tell them to f~~~ off when they ask you to stay on subject… Maybe you should change your name to “Troll”.

    Some people just want to complain.

     

    #65264
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    Snake
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    F~~~ing jackass comes in here with no introduction, no stars, nothing but entitlement and expectations, wanting us to bend over and do work. YOU DO IT.

    #65273
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    Anonymous
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    3. Women should be allowed to be prostitutes. This is just a win win win. No further explanation necessary.

    Not really.

    Although I think women should be allowed to be prostitutes, it is not something they should aim for.

    It is a lose/lose situation for men. Like I said on previous post, men trade resources for sex. Resources are way harder to come by (requiring some level of skill) while sex is easy for women to give (all they have to do is open their legs).

    This is not anecdotal information, it is truth and commons sense.

    Do you need research to see world around you? Do you need papers for you to use common sense?

    C’mon, research says that 1 in 5 women are raped in USA. You don’t need research to see that is not true, just look around you! If this were true, that would be a rape happening in every dark alley, around every street. Do you see this happening?

    #65286
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    Keymaster
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    @rolledgold.

    In addition to the detailed facts I left here http://www.unc.edu/courses/2010fall/econ/586/001/Readings/Brinig.pdf . . . .

    Talk to any divorce attorney. Pick one. Pink a hundred.

    When I wanted to find out if 80% of sexually active women under 23 have (or have had) an STD, I got it directly from a gynecologist. That’s 4 out of 5!

    You have to WANT to learn it for yourself. That’s all Snake meant. It’s not to be a cold bastard “troll”. This is a community of men who actively seek, find, inform and discuss the truth and facts – no matter how painful the truth may be. We had a woman on twitter – yesterday(!) – demanding that one of us send her a personal photo as if that negates every piece of video evidence we provide. She doesn’t want to see it and look for it herself. That’s the big difference. She expected it hand delivered to her on a platter. We’re not doing her work for her.

    She accused us of “hate-mogering” and we asked her to provide a SPECIFIC EXAMPLE of what she was referring to. She failed to do it. She failed to bring a link so we assisted her and provided it for her and asked her to show how that is “hate mongering”. Then she backpedaled like a f~~~ing coward. She’s LAZY. And we told her so.

    /video/before-you-sign-a-marriage-contract/

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #65287
    RolledGold
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    I’m completely capable of seeing the world around me. Guys, what is with this resentment. As a new member, I’m trying to get my facts strait and me finding statistics not on this website is doing the work for YOU not the other way around.

    I feel that I have been wronged by women in the past and that there is inequality in the laws with the way women are allowed to treat men, for instance, in California it is only battery if a man hits a woman and not the other way around.

    I’m just trying to see the big picture here and find ways to combat arguements that would come up if one tried to bring this up in a public circle. Hard facts and evidence are indisputable and more difficult to misrepresent and they are much more valuable.

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