Life As A Walking Wallet

[WolfParticipant 890]

I talked to a chick online last week. Young and hot – definitely f~~~ and dump material, and I saw it for what it was. However, after we chatted back and forth a few times, she says, “sweetie, can you send $80 for my phone bill?”. That was the end of that conversation!

[peterfaParticipant 833]

“You got to pay to play.” “You got to go, you hoe.”

[dasboot89Participant 22]

Some of my male friends describe me as “cheap” because I don’t spend hundreds or even thousands on women like they do.  I’m “cheap” for women because it’s a principled thing.  Why should I have to pay a woman for her company?  Why should I have to pay a woman for anything?  I have always been a life long introvert, loner, and I am possibly asexual too.  I NEVER had a strong desire to have sex with any woman, but that didn’t mean that I didn’t want to attempt a friendship for one reason or another.

But it’s just so damned difficult for me to WANT to ask a woman out when I know that it basically means that she’ll agree, but then automatically assume that since I asked, I will be funding her entire evening.  I mean, it has happened a couple of times.  Less times than I can count on both hands, though.  It always annoys me.  I have no problem telling women NO these days, but then I don’t really ask them out, either.  It saves me the trouble.  It saves me from the bulls~~~.

But it ends up making me sad, too, as the only way to having female companionship is really by throwing money at them.  Like a whore, prostitute, or escort.  Whatever you want to call it.  It’s disgusting.

[Math RoninParticipant 86]

With respect to online dating: been there, done that. Done doing that.

However, in praise of online dating, I will say the following: lik yourself, it helped me “man up” and finally take the red pill. I honestly wonder if I would have been able to do so without online dating.

When I was younger, women walked all over me like this, and I never even noticed: a man was expected to get married and to do so, he was expected to do all these things to woo the woman. Then I got in my mid-30’s and noticed how unhappy I was, but always got lonely or felt guilty, so I didn’t rock the boat. In my 40’s I slowly started to realize there are worse things than being alone. I went through exactly the same types of experiences you did: working for decades to please a women that could never be pleased and wouldn’t do s~~~ to help me. I could have given here a million in gold and she would have complained it was too shiny or too heavy.

BUT even after all that, I still was “purplish-blue”.

Can you believe it?

Then, I started to do online dating, just playing around on the off chance that somewhere out there in the vast ocean of women I would find my little soulmate.

And I learned.

First, the women were much more direct. All the initial flirty stuff that hooks a guy in with eye contact, body language, dress, etc was stripped away. Second, because a lot of the time we were talking and chatting (and not just staring into each others eyes), the natural inclination women have for grilling men kicked in. I was going through a “transitional phase” after my second marriage, career-wise, and I got the same condescending attitude you experienced. I was told I wasn’t stable enough or maybe I wouldn’t make enough money. In extended conversation, women because they are borderline crazy, will naturally revert to this critical mode and hearing it in their voice really made an impact on me.

But here’s the kicker.

The last women I met online, actually told me about MGTOW….LOL. I actually thought she might be a NOWALT, but she convinced me that relationships don’t work and that her freedom was more important. (This was after she had also done her “initial assessment” which led he to doubts about whether I would make enough money for her or stay in love with her.) And I thought “wow, if I could think you might be the one and I could be this far off base, you know what: I totally agree with you that the notion of true romantic love IS an illusion”

Lesson learned…..finally

Good luck 🙂

[TheBoyMattyParticipant 1]

Yeah this is annoying as f~~~.  I’m so sick of girls always expecting me to take them out on dates, and pay for everything. Like, sure its easy for you to demand being taken out because YOU AREN’T PAYING.

 

I see so many girls whining about guys these days “being lazy in pursuing girls ” chivalry is dead” “guys dont date anymore”…. Girls make just as much money, or more as us these days and we’re still expected to spend all ours on them! F~~~ing bulls~~~. And if you dont they’ll stop f~~~ing with you.

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

Keymaster wrote:

@MR TV “jerk” and “asshole” is just woman-speak for “I hate that you can’t be manipulated”. Wear that label like a badge of honor. When a woman calls me either “jerk” or “asshole”, I know sex is about to happen in zero-point-five minutes. It’s one of the best damn compliments she can pay you! But first things first… why are you answering her questions at all? It should be MGTOW rule #2. Never answer a woman’s questions directly. Every question is a puck… and you have to be the world’s best goalie and deflect that puck. “So what do you do for a living?” “You’re funny. I am a professional assassin”. “So where do you live?” “those must be comfortable shoes. I bet you could walk all day in shoes like that and not feel a thing.” “What kind of car do you drive?” “I’m hungry.” … ANYTHING but answering her. Say you’re an astronaut. Tell you’re a dildo model. Be creative. Just play with her for your own amusement. Women are all an unoriginal JOKE with the same goddam boring and predictable questions. It’s the same s~~~ all the time. They can’t even carry on a polite and pleasant conversation without asking personal questions, and it shows ZERO conversation skills. Of course these indirect answers are going to irritate her because she is trying to get information and CAN’T. They don’t ask “how many languages do you speak?”…. or “Do you have any brothers and sisters?”…. or “what musical instruments do you play?” Those would show she gives a s~~~ about your person, but “so what do you do for a living?” It’s none of her goddamn business. Your business is your business. I was at a party once and a friend of mine walked in, and the chick standing next to me asked “is he gay or straight?”. Im like “WHAT THE F~~~?” kind of question is that? She didn’t ask “is he nice?”… “is he funny?”… “is he smart?”… “how long have you known him?”….”does he speak English?”… NO. she wants to know who he’s f~~~ing. Can you imagine how insane that is? How sex obsessed is the modern skank that she needs to open with that. It’s none of her goddam business. ME: “Before a guy asks you out, don’t even ask that stupid f~~~ing question. What difference does it make? His name is JEFF. If I tell you he’s straight, are you gonna walk over and offer to buy him dinner and lick his b~~~~?” SHE: “Um…. no.” ME: “Then why do you care if he’s straight or gay?” SHE: (sound of crickets chirping….)

It really would be great to read a book of yours, Keymaster 🙂

I hope someday you put one together.  You write this material so spot-on, brother.

It reminds me of a line that Mozart once said “I write music like a sow p~~~es”.

Same thing applies good sir knight.

I really enjoy reading your thoughts.

[cancerapeParticipant 35]

Online dating? – I recently had a funny thought, but it might get you in the s~~~ with the cops – Set up a profile on POF or some other BS dating site and sleep with as many women as possible, do this for a few months……then call them up one by one and explain you might be HIV positive, now some of you might think this a bit cruel, but how many women have pulled the “I’m pregnant” BS and happily watched a man panic as life as he knew it flashes before him?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1213212/The-ego-epidemic-more-inflated-sense-fabulousness.html

[SchemescapeParticipant 19]

It’s hilarious watching the older guys at my job desperately try to bag up the girls there. Many of the 30+ guys will literally swarm a girl and smother her with attention on all 3 of our breaks. Of course this involves buying them food, and doing favors to appease them. For any of the initiated, it’s amusing to see how ungrateful women can be under these circumstances. These girls don’t give a damn about these guys or the effort they’re going through, they just go talk to them when they want something. They take them completely for granted, worse still they use the attention and free stuff as a stat boost to approach the guys they’re really interested in.

If you start out buying stuff for women, what you get isn’t appreciation, it’s expectation. They think it is normal for you and other guys to break the bank on them and should you complain they’ll throw a fit. That’s just how it works.

[DarthWParticipant 70]

Schemescape wrote:

It’s hilarious watching the older guys at my job desperately try to bag up the girls there. Many of the 30+ guys will literally swarm a girl and smother her with attention on all 3 of our breaks. Of course this involves buying them food, and doing favors to appease them. For any of the initiated, it’s amusing to see how ungrateful women can be under these circumstances. These girls don’t give a damn about these guys or the effort they’re going through, they just go talk to them when they want something. They take them completely for granted, worse still they use the attention and free stuff as a stat boost to approach the guys they’re really interested in. If you start out buying stuff for women, what you get isn’t appreciation, it’s expectation. They think it is normal for you and other guys to break the bank on them and should you complain they’ll throw a fit. That’s just how it works.

I completely agree.  I love not giving women like that the time of day.  It really confuses them when you’re the guy in the room ignoring them and not falling all over them to make them happy.

[dasboot89Participant 22]

I tend to believe that you’re just seen as the weird or gay man in that instance, since she is probably accustomed to every other straight guy willing to lick her boots.

[SchemescapeParticipant 19]

Oh you’re not wrong. If you care about bedding women or anyone woman at any instance you can’t really afford to be passive. That emo, passive, anime cool guy thing is seen as weird IRL. If you’re going to bumrush a girl though, you need to be smarter, more experienced and better looking than the competition. Women have a very sharp double standard to male sexual interest. What is seen as thirsty, desperate or even creepy by most men is seen as sexy, bold and arousing by the few guys she’s attracted to for whatever whimsical reason.

[Charles_MartelParticipant 10]

This reminds me of a friend who literally moved out of his apartment – which made him homeless for a week – so that he could afford to buy stuff for his new squeeze but refused to admit that he was in a toxic relations~~~ because he was getting sex.

The sound of his squeaky hamster wheel of excuses would have been hilarious if it wasnt so sad. He stopped meeting up with his friends because he was “saving money” which was basically code for “I’m at the mercy of a blood sucking leech who will ditch me when someone richer comes along”

I’ve lost respect for my friend, but he’s so loved up that he wouldn’t listen to reason. I’m on the sidelines watching this disaster unfold.

I’m sure each of us has watched a friend sink into the quagmire of a relarionship with “the one”.

[oldSkooldudeParticipant 5]

Therefore if she can’t cook, she’s worthless. Think about it – means either you’re cooking or buying LOL

good point. broads are the worst. there may be 10% good ones out there. wish i was born in the 50s

[DrexelScottParticipant 30]

100% your fault for offering money, and then continuing to give them money after it was obvious they were just using you. Women can only take what you offer. I have never spent a dime on a woman and can’t see myself ever doing so, you need to learn how to hold boundaries and say NO to women. And probably people in general. Check out the book “No More Mr. Nice Guy,” it’s a really excellent resource. Yes it’s their fault for being parasites, but they would have just moved on or possibly respected you, had you just shut them down when they tried to get money.

"No price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself."--Nietzche

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[Mr. SpockParticipant 10909]

I got into a debate with a girl and her mother when I was younger. I told them how I was offended when one of the first things a girl asks me when we meet is, “Where do you work”. They asked why and I mentioned how I feel like I’m being rated and judged by how much money I made. They laughed and said I was overly sensitive and reading too much into it. They also defended it asking what SHOULD a girl ask or want to talk about? Her mother chimed in with “it’s just a simple question to get to know more about you. it’s not like you’re a millionaire.”

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

women are worthless f~~~-holes. Lately I been enjoying responding to CL ads in asinine ways… lol
One ad was written by some pig (she claimed she was “curvy”) who listed all these f~~~ing qualities she wanted in a man, also saying how she wants a guy who can work on cars (‘cuz she probably needs her c~~~ mobile fixed – for free of course). So I responded with “What do you offer? Can you cook? Nothing more worthless than a woman who can’t cook.”
Of course she responded, telling me how mean and ugly I was LOL
Seriously guys, I’m a dude and I can cook. It’s not hard. We’re not talking about savory souffles or beef wellington. Eggs and bacon. Toast too.
Therefore if she can’t cook, she’s worthless. Think about it – means either you’re cooking or buying LOL

Right ! Cooking is actually easy. Also, these days, you can’t assume a woman “cooks” even if she said she can. Putting a TV Dinner in an oven or microwave does not count !

[hollowtipsParticipant 681]

If you’re a male under 35 life has to much to offer for you to commit to a woman in any serious way unless she’s you’re dream girl and she’s not a bitch. Woman are so good at manipulating men into a position in a relationship where they can use their money without the man realizing he’s being exploited. She acts so happy when she does and it feels good to see a woman happy but you’re happiness and financial happiness matter to.

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