Life – and relationships and sex – is WAR

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

Grrt wrote:

We are all subject to natural and sexual selection – SOCIETY IS A WAR FOR RESOURCES AND REPRODUCTION.
That war is ultimately about killing or enslaving other people – for those who are too weak get killed by the stronger and smarter, directly or by reproductive defeat.

You’re either a tuna or a mangina. Either way it doesn’t matter it’s the same s~~~. What you’re describing is so contrary to the modern era where IQ and skills are of the utmost importance to live a prosperous and peaceful life. Many mgtowers like myself, whose a civil engineer, have the intelligence and resources to live a meaningful life with or without a c~~~ so that macho talk is pure and utter BS and has no place in the 21st century. It’s not ultimately about enslaving or killing the weaker pseudo-intellectual manginas like yourself to get ahead nor is it about breeding as much as possible. Smart people breed less anyway because they realize that a good upbringing far outweighs the numerical factor that usually takes hold in third world countries.

In fact your verbal diarrhea goes down the drain in our times because it is the stupid and the weak that reproduce since the state allows them to and rewards them for doing so. It has nothing to do with being bitter or hateful. A lot of the problems can go away if gynocentrism and the welfare state were reversed but that’s not going to happen unless a collapse becomes imminent.

Why should we partake in a system that’s collapsing and in decline? Why should you care at all with what we do in our lives? You act like you have things figured out so go ahead spread your genes and be the macho guy that you envision yourself to be then come back and tell us how far that got you, moron.

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[Anonymous 13]

As for love being a Disney fairy tale, really?

Gee, I’ve been lied to.

I think we all know the Disney lie they tried to sell us.

Even if there’s no real love for a man from a woman how about she could have at least been caring, loving and loyal and not someone hell bent on your total destruction.

How about they just be decent human beings.

BUT THEY ARE NOT.

I’m never going back to a system that will divorce rape me all over again so I get poorer with each divorce.

And for what?

To be with a despicable, disloyal creature who will stab you in the back first chance she gets.

No, just NO.

[ghostParticipant]

Carnage wrote:

Because f~~~er make no sense at all.

He is a total f~~~-wit. He isn’t supposed to make any sense.

[MACHOParticipant]

Carnage wrote:

Before flushing that turd, I really wanna know WTF IT IS DOING HERE.
Because f~~~er make no sense at all.

Nuts don’t have to make sense, they will do whatever it takes to aggravate you!

They can be quite entertaining in their madness if you remind yourself of what you’re dealing with! it’s like this.. it would be quite futile to go in a funny farm then engage in arguments with their residents!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[GrrtParticipant 6]

Anonymous wrote:

No we don’t, we have all chosen to walk away.

If you do truly wish that nobody can stop you. I just want to point out that it is nothing else than
suicide, just slower than by putting a gun to your head.

Carnage wrote:

Why do you care if (I) go extinct?

Why it seems that many here greatly welcome going extinct?
To me this forum and your “movement” looks somewhat like a suicide forum, and all you are doing here, effectively, is trying to convince each other that suicide is the right thing to do – as if you were not quite certain…

Anonymous wrote:

And feeding ourselves into a gynocentric corrupt system isn’t going extinct?

It’s only gynocentric superficially; there is another layer on the very top, and it’s the upper class, that is, upper class men, the “top 10000”, so to speak.
You are not really enslaved by women as the top slaver caste – the money you are manipulated and cheated into giving to women does not stay with them; women immediately spend it, and then it goes to your real enemies, your real exploiters, the very few men at the top of society, the few men who really set up society’s rules, who control what you get to know, get to see and get to believe from childhood onward – you have realized it’s a scam, and you have been or are to be betrayed – but not by women – they are but the tools, the bait for you, all the willing to act as such. Women are not ambitious or smart enough to set up such a system, for they can rely on their vagina magic alone in life to try to be successful.
The ruling class – a few men – have set everything up so that they alone benefit most, that they alone are those where all money streams end, where all the money from hard-working men ends up. And they need to use women as tools, because ultimately, the vast majority of men only works hard, produces wealth as hard as they can, for women and sex.

If you disbelieve that, let me point out a thought experiment:
Imagine all women would be gone forever for some reason. Only heterosexual men would exist for all eternity,
reproduction facilitated by cloning, and only male clones would be possible to exist.
How would society change?
Would men in such a society still desire Ferraris, or $500.000-watches, or big villas, or fine suits for
$10.000 and such things? For what? Impressing other men? No. There is no need anymore to impress other men, to signal social status and one’s higher position in the pecking order if there are no women anymore.
But add just one single hot women, and suddenly men are at war with each other, for that women, trying to
impress her most, and more so than the other men can, to score sex with her.

Women are but bait to make men work hard and achieve, for the ruling class to get their profits off it,
because women are not suitable for that, for they are not willing nor capable to work hard and have
profitable ideas. Practically all wealth and innovation comes from men, and the few men at the very top
want that for their own as their profits – without women as bait, the 99% of men would never accept to
give the wealth they produce to the 1% of top men.

[Anonymous 14]

Grrt wrote:

Joe Bauers wrote:

No we don’t, we have all chosen to walk away.

If you do truly wish that nobody can stop you. I just want to point out that it is nothing else than
suicide, just slower than by putting a gun to your head.

You got it backwards, it’s self preservation. You are clearly in the wrong place, go jerk off somewhere else.

[ghostParticipant]

Just shut the f~~~ up.

[MACHOParticipant]

Please throw this Bum out!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

Remember, pay attention to a persons action, not their words. Any retard like grrt can try to pass off as articulate and knowledgeable but I doubt he’s accomplished or even committed a quarter of the nonsense he’s preaching.

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[Anonymous 14]

Joey Alfio wrote:

Remember, pay attention to a persons action, not their words. Any retard like grrt can try to pass off as articulate and knowledgeable but I doubt he’s accomplished or even committed a quarter of the nonsense he’s preaching.

I am giving even odds right now that he is a Diamond Dealer who is in fear of losing his shirt.

Who the f~~~ argues that not entering War that he has just described as Suicide? Maybe a guy like Snake… One who see’s it as a Race War… Snake, is that you buddy? If I had some writing samples I could figure it out…

I just watched Scarface again tonight after many years. Tony goes to War to impress Elvira because she wouldn’t give him the time of day before he got rich and powerful… Look how it ended up for him…Bluepill White Knighting in it’s most disgusting form, and to look back now at how many of my friends who had Scarface posters on their walls when I was young… Pathetic.

Guess what, we don’t care to go to War, this is the opposite of Suicide… Genetic Suicide you say? We don’t give a s~~~, this place is a s~~~hole for the most part anyhow.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Dude you make no f~~~ing sense… how old you are ?

22?

I bet you ain’t even 40, can’t be.

Ok let’s suppose its true, there is a top 100 men, slaves work for women, women spend, money goes to top 100.

What is the solution?

What you propose?

Send women to f~~~ them selves, problem solved. MGTOW.

Men don’t have to compete anymore. MGTOW.

This looks like a suicide group?

Why do you care?
Answer the question.

Why do you care? What are you doing here?

A bunch of men down is good for you, the rest of men, and the empowered women.

Soo why do you care?

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[GrrtParticipant 6]

Joey Alfio wrote:

(…)because it is the stupid and the weak that reproduce since the state allows them to and rewards them for doing so. A lot of the problems can go away (…) the welfare state were reversed but that’s not going to happen unless a collapse becomes imminent.

“The state” is an entity that is ambiguous, blurry – what is it, really? Is “it” able to “allow” and “reward”?
No.
There are laws and morals, there are social mechanisms, there is specific types of education of the young in schools and by media and education/propaganda for the adults by media – and all this is deliberately so because of a thin upper crust of MEN, the ruling class, has deliberately set it up so.

The “welfare state” is not ultimately to benefit women. It is to benefit the ruling, the owning class.
Those who laugh about needing to work, because they have vast amounts of capital income – from other people’s work, that is, from other MEN’s work:

Consider a landlord. None of the small kind, one of the upper class, owning perhaps a fund with 1500 houses for rent or so.
Consider social welfare in the form of rent payments from the “state” when the renters become unemployed.
Good for the poor unemployed workers, a great success for them, right? Not so.
What would happen, say in a great economic crisis to the landlord owning 1500 houses when all the workers who
pay their rents to him lose their income due to unemployment? The workers find themselves homeless, but the
landlord suffers, too: His capital income is gone!
So the upper class, who holds the capital and makes the rules, invented social welfare.
As soon as workers become unable to pay their rent, the “state”, that is, TAXES OF OTHER WORKERS, helps out –
good for the workers who can stay under their roof this way, but also extremely beneficial for the landlord, because whatever economic crises hits – his capital income from rents will never dry up, because TAXES of those men still in work guarantee his capital income!

The same applies for other forms of capital income, and most relevant here, for the exploit of women as a source and guarantee for stable capital incomes for the upper class through exploitation of the lower 99% of men who do not realize this.

This is also the reason you cannot escape being cuckolded – because of social welfare, single mothers
receive money from the government, that is, from taxpayers, that is, from men who pay taxes.
And no man who wants to live can avoid paying taxes in some form or another.
Therefore, as a man, you are being forced to pay for single mothers and other men’s kids even if you would
be a virgin male yourself.
You cannot effectively “go your own way”, free yourself from the slavery, if you want to live (only if you had found a way to live without work and using money to buy things, which I deem improbable).

[MACHOParticipant]

Do not feed the trolls!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[ghostParticipant]

You f~~~ing prawn. You can’t even write properly.

[Bob DylanParticipant 1350]

Grrt,
Maybe I missed it, but you seem to be avoiding the concepts of LOYALTY and HONESTY.
I truly believe that men, (including blue pillers), when put to the test, have generally exhibited loyalty, to the point of insanity, toward their mates, friends and loved ones. Today’s women are typically loyal only to themselves and the ‘hive’ when the threat level is critically high.
Needless to say, all women lie regularly to maintain their ‘victim status’. A woman will usually apologize for spilling a drink on you, but, on a serious ‘relations~~~’ matter, there will never be an apology because the infraction is someone else’s fault. The best you can expect is sex from her. And, in her mind that’s the end of it !
Hiding an agenda, or disguising one’s self (with makeup and alluring clothes / costumes) is dishonest and manipulative. In the animal kingdom, disguises are utilized by both predator and prey. Should women view men as prey ? and vice-versa ? if they are both on the same team ? with common goals ?
I’ve often wondered if women lie to themselves to the point that their ‘rewritten’ recollection of events would allow them to pass a polygraph test ?
btw- F~~~ Off troll

..it ain't me babe...it ain't me you're looking for, babe...

[rubenParticipant 119]

For the record I don’t “greatly welcome” my own “extinction” as you call it I just don’t care. Why on earth should I?

[GrrtParticipant 6]

Carnage wrote:

Why do you care? What are you doing here?
A bunch of men down is good for you, the rest of men, and the empowered women.
Soo why do you care?

I want to point out that you bark at the wrong tree;
women are not your enemy.
They are only tools of your true enemy, those MEN who set up the social rules we are forced to live by;
as stupid, mean, brutal, evil etc. women can be (same as us men!) –
women are but the bait that is wagged in front of your noses,
just the symptom but not the true cause of your troubles.

You think you are being played for fools by women; but this is not so,
as women are not nearly strong or smart or organized enough to overcome you.
You are distracted so much, perhaps deliberately so, by women as the cause of your problems,
that you fail to see who is really behind it.

As a matter of fact, feminists appear to me to be quite analogous in motivation and outrage as
MGTOWs, but only in reverse; they are hating the other sex, too, and perceive it as the single cause
of all their problems and frustrations.
Perhaps you are being played and deceived very much like feminists are, both of you being exploited
through your emotions and tendency for scapegoating…

Divide et Impera

[rubenParticipant 119]

Even if you were right, and you aren’t, I’m unclear what exactly your solution is or what you want from us.

[ghostParticipant]

ruben wrote:

Even if you were right, and you aren’t, I’m unclear what exactly your solution is or what you want from us.

He is a dickless troll just looking for attention.

[Anonymous 14]

Elites/Globalists have indeed been pushing Feminism to help meet their goals in various ways, but guess what? I have analyzed all of this including whether or not MGTOW is an organic response to it or not and the answer is always the same; just walk away and live a better life for yourself and watch it all burn from a distance as it surely will no matter what you do. The fact of the matter is there are far more stupid people on this planet than there are smart ones, nothing you or I can do about it. Holding onto something that can never be is a war you are guaranteed to lose my friend, just walk away.

Peace-

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