Let's just say that a miracle happens

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

I know we MGTOW (us MGTOW?) realize what women are all about, how they operate, how they think, etc. but what if they actually miraculously came out with all this, effectively telling us all that what MGTOW knew all along was true? (Stop laughing) I’m seriously asking what do you think would happen? I know MGTOW would never return to the plantation (you couldn’t pay me enough to go back there) but what would it do for all the blue-pillers? If women came out and admitted everything, how they’re all in it just for the resources, they’re hypergamous, they’re conniving bitches, and they’ll only willingly f~~~ the top 10-20% of guys, then said “So what are you gonna do about it?” what do you think would happen? As I said, it’s never going to happen, but I’m curious as to what you guys think.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

they would have to prove it, not just say it. there are women saying that women have gone astray etc etc. but that doesn’t change the laws regarding marriage, divorce, etc. It doesn’t change that a woman can have a man jailed, without evidence or trial, for simply accusing him of rape or dv. So, it would take a lot more than an apology and admission of guilt before men go back. Trust has to be earned. even then, many men will never go back because this way of life is just better.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[Anonymous 18]

Women can’t consciously acknowledge their traits. Like a sociopath or psychopath doesn’t see oneself as such. It’s not plausible from natural stand point to set water on fire.

To them mgtow is a woman hating branch of patriarchy born from the need to suppress womankind.

The objective truth we speak is evidence based. But we are able to accept the truth because we can observe it without bias. We are objective because we felt the heat when the oven was cranked up by her female nature.

Women are biased. They genuinely do not believe they do the things we say women do. Until they do it but their hamster provides a thousand reasons to justify their actions.

Redpill allows a man to see their true nature.

In short women won’t come out and admit something they themselves are unaware of.

Even things like hypergamy and monkey branching are justified because she was ’emotionally unfulfilled’ or ‘was no longer in love’. Women do evil things because they feel justified in their own twisted ways. The scary thing is they aren’t designed to realize their own nature.

If a woman was confronted with her own reality then that’s a level of cognitive dissonance that her sanity can’t sanction.

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

^Well said brother. And you’re right, even if they do realize and admit their mistakes or stupid behaviors there’s always some BS excuse underneath it all no matter how minuscule which is just as pathetic.

Δεν υπάρχει τίποτε αδύνατο γι’ αυτόν που θα προσπαθήσει. - Μέγας Αλέξανδρος

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

Anonymous wrote:

Women can’t consciously acknowledge their traits. Like a sociopath or psychopath doesn’t see oneself as such. It’s not plausible from natural stand point to set water on fire.

To them mgtow is a woman hating branch of patriarchy born from the need to suppress womankind.

The objective truth we speak is evidence based. But we are able to accept the truth because we can observe it without bias. We are objective because we felt the heat when the oven was cranked up by her female nature.

Women are biased. They genuinely do not believe they do the things we say women do. Until they do it but their hamster provides a thousand reasons to justify their actions.

Redpill allows a man to see their true nature.

In short women won’t come out and admit something they themselves are unaware of.

Even things like hypergamy and monkey branching are justified because she was ’emotionally unfulfilled’ or ‘was no longer in love’. Women do evil things because they feel justified in their own twisted ways. The scary thing is they aren’t designed to realize their own nature.

If a woman was confronted with her own reality then that’s a level of cognitive dissonance that her sanity can’t sanction.

I agree wholeheartedly with you, I just wondered what would happen if through some miracle this actually occurred.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

[Anonymous 3]

ScarberianMPTGL wrote:

If women came out and admitted everything, how they’re all in it just for the resources, they’re hypergamous, they’re conniving bitches, and they’ll only willingly f~~~ the top 10-20% of guys, then said “So what are you gonna do about it?” what do you think would happen?

NOTHING HAPPENS!

As all this red pill knowledge changes my view of the world I am beginning to see that unconsciously everyone knows and accepts this behavior.

I can quote “pride and prejudices” as one example of common knowledge of their hypergamy:

Jane, Elizabeth and Mr. Bennet conclude that Uncle Gardiner must have bribed Wickham to marry Lydia, and they are ashamed of their indebtedness and inability to repay him.
Mrs. Bennet, quite typically, has no such scruples; being ecstatic to have a daughter married, she never stops to consider the want of propriety and honesty throughout the affair.

As for the conniving and manipulation part we have EVERY SIMPLE soap opera:

Soap opera storylines sometimes weave intricate, convoluted and sometimes confusing tales of characters who have affairs, meet mysterious strangers and fall in love, and who commit adultery, all of which keeps audiences hooked on the unfolding story. Crimes such as kidnapping, rape, and even murder may go unpunished if the perpetrator is to be retained in the ongoing story.

People accept women’s lack of responsibility, maturity and agency. That is why they say they need “help”.
Red pill knowledge says women are like kids, but people already behave and expect women to act like kids. That is why they say they are “fragile” and “emotional”.

And because its unconscious, it is very hard to turn this knowing into conscious knowledge. Even with proof and full confession, there would be no acceptance.

[OldBillParticipant]

ScarberianMPTGL wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly with you, I just wondered what would happen if through some miracle this actually occurred.

If women miraculously somehow became self-aware, the innumerable privileges, legal and otherwise, automatically afforded them by our society and culture would still exist. And, because those privileges will still exist, there will still be women who will avail themselves to them.

Women will take advantage of these unwarranted and unearned privileges not because they’re women, but because they’re human.

This all-too-human temptation to “game the system” is why the current trend of (mostly younger) women labeling themselves ‘anti-feminists”, “tradcons”, and even “religious” does nothing to lessen the dangers relationships and marriage pose to men.

You’ll need a miraculous change in women’s behavior coupled with a truly equitable legal system for any hope of our society being “fixed”.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Considering that them ‘revealing’ their true intentions WOULD be acknowledged by everyone; things would hardly change after that.

First, never underestimate the power of pussy on the blue-pilled mind.

”Ah! I don’t care how ‘bad’ she is. I still love her. Real love comes from accepting the others’ flaws”

Second, the red pill life is pretty much the norm for a middle-class guy. So even if all women became NAWALT unicorns, red-pilled men would still want to stay away because, in short, they do not ‘want’ all the good things a woman has to offer. However good they may be … however happy they migh make him, howmuchever extra years it will add to his life, Men woud NOT go back to the plantation.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[Anonymous 1]

OldBill wrote:

Women will take advantage of these unwarranted and unearned privileges not because they’re women, but because they’re human

Could it therefore be assumed that men in the same position, afforded the same unearned privileges, would also seek to exploit as much as possible from society?

I’m not saying I agree or disagree, although it does seem likely that “human nature” would overcome most.

I guess its actually a pointless question – what we need is a re-balance and mooting the negative traits of human nature doesn’t offer any value.

I’ve answered my own question.

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Could it therefore be assumed that men in the same position, afforded the same unearned privileges, would also seek to exploit as much as possible from society?

Yes, most certainly. If a privilege exists it will be exploited. Humans are not saints.

I guess its actually a pointless question – what we need is a re-balance and mooting the negative traits of human nature doesn’t offer any value.

We get what we provide incentives for and, sadly, we’ve been incentivizing all types of negative behaviors for several decades now.

Women are hypergmous and will monkey branch if the negative consequences of those choices are not imposed. We here routinely talk about how marriage and relationships no longer pass any real cost/benefit analysis. If the benefits gained through hypergamous behavior and monkey branching failed to meet the costs of the same, women would be less tempted to do both.

Impose consequences and the behavior will diminish. Not vanish, mind you, diminish.

I’ve answered my own question.

Yes, you did.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 11]

iLearn nailed it to the cross for women.

As for blue pillers, they are blind. Their thirst for pussy and female companionship ensures that they are trapped in a cognitive dissonance where everything a female does wrong is rationalized, or they are simply too weak willed to do what it takes. We must remember that women truly are spoiled children. They get what they want by throwing tantrums. Blue pillers either meekly submit or else constantly fight while MGTOWs just refuse to play the games. For this we are hated. We are hated for simply doing nothing other than the right thing.

[DocParticipant 104]

If they stood up and stated everything we are and say was correct in every way, trust me on this brothers in the very next breath they’d blame their behaviour on us it’d be our fault f~~~ing nags all of em..I how many times have you herd “it” say “sorry about that I made a mistake” and leave it at that, the typical reply ends with “I only did it because you”…ect ect if the sun doesn’t rise on time tomorrow it’ll be something we did…

[AttonParticipant]

It would wipe away any doubt and grow our numbers.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Nothing, you can’t fix crazy…

Peace brothers

[Anonymous 0]

ScarberianMPTGL wrote:

I know we MGTOW (us MGTOW?) realize what women are all about, how they operate, how they think, etc. but what if they actually miraculously came out with all this, effectively telling us all that what MGTOW knew all along was true? […snipped]

Basically, I’ll just repeat what others have said:

Most women in the US today will say that they are a NAWALT and not a feminist, if it suits their purpose. (Pollsters say that only 1 in 5 women claims to be a feminist.) Furthermore, just about every NAWALT will happily recognize and admit all the petty rip-offs that women engage in. If she thinks there’s a chance of getting married to you, your NAWALT will condemn women more than you and point out to you women’s rip-offs that you haven’t even seen.

Then, after you’re married, the seven-year itch or whatever will kick in, and suddenly she’ll do an about-face and start using all those same tricks on “you”: Claiming victimhood, scouring your every word and action over the years for anything she can twist into a form of “abuse” in a courtroom, etc. And then suddenly that NAWALT that you married becomes an AWALT. Why will she do such an about-face? Like OldBill said: Because she can. The system allows it, and she would be a fool not to take advantage of those levers.

Furthermore, everyone in the system knows full well that women are ripping off the system: Legislators know it, judges know it, lawyers know it, social workers know it, other women know it. They all know it. But the system consists of a million paper trails. And if it looks on paper like a woman got a raw deal, women pass that case or that transcript or news report around on social media and jump up and start a clamor. Why? Because they themselves might need those tricks. And so they start a campaign to make sure a judge doesn’t get re-elected or a social worker gets disciplined, and so on. And the word gets out: Don’t screw with women’s privileges within the system.

Pretty easy, really. Women rule social media, and they use social media to intimidate people in the system who might try to be fair to men. Meanwhile, feminists in academia provide a veneer of legitimacy to all this by doing research to show that women *need* these privileges.

So everyone is quite aware of these rip-offs, but women want those privileges and everyone is too intimidated to say “no.” If anything, women are constantly trying to expand on those privileges. At best, men can only try to hold the line and curb the worst abuses of women in the system.

[BoarParticipant]

Are you looking for redpill/bluepill reactions? I’ll take a swing at that…

Bluepill : What do they mean? That can’t be right. We have been indoctrinated that women are better; they are the perfect half of humanity while we are the flawed half. Something is wrong here and our conditioning says that it must be our fault.

Redpill : What do they want now?

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[foghornleghornParticipant 3449]

It is too late for them to do anything. All they can do is perhaps work on the laws. Beyond that nothing will change. For instance, you say that women admit to all these things about their true nature. Well then what? Do they work on changing it? I highly doubt it. Plus there will always be the blue pill guys who will continue to claim that men are the problem or we need to “man up” and protect the women.

[Anonymous 0]

Most men think it’s beneath them to complain about women’s privileges. They just don’t see that divorce rape coming at them till it’s too late. They think they’re a “nice guy,” and they think divorce rape doesn’t happen to “nice guys.” (But you know what they say about “nice guys.”)

And if you try to talk with women honestly about this on a message board, they’ll admit you have some legitimate points at first. But then they’ll get tired of your “woman-bashing” and tell you that you really need to get some counseling (or at least do some introspection) to deal with your anger toward an entire half of the population. If you keep pressing them, they’ll tell you you’re bordering on “hate speech.”

Women know what’s up. But they don’t want to hear about it from a man. Like blue-pill men, they think it’s beneath men to complain about this stuff and nitpick at women. Men are supposed to “man up” and quit bitching about women’s petty rip-offs, because rape culture, or wage gap, or patriarchy, or whatever. Translation: The men have the money and the women need it. And frankly, most women are too stupid or lazy to get out and earn it themselves. So men have to carry that burden for them, and then spread the wealth a bit so that the women aren’t left behind.

So even though you’re perfectly right about the privileges of women, you’re just not going to get a fair hearing from either men or women. They’ll just tell you that you have anger issues or you’re being unmanly.

So all you can do is go MGTOW: Stand back and watch the men go down in flames one by one, until *all* the men start understanding what’s really at stake.

[Anonymous 3]

ScarberianMPTGL wrote:

I know we MGTOW (us MGTOW?) realize what women are all about, how they operate, how they think, etc. but what if they actually miraculously came out with all this, effectively telling us all that what MGTOW knew all along was true? (Stop laughing) I’m seriously asking what do you think would happen? I know MGTOW would never return to the plantation (you couldn’t pay me enough to go back there) but what would it do for all the blue-pillers? If women came out and admitted everything, how they’re all in it just for the resources, they’re hypergamous, they’re conniving bitches, and they’ll only willingly f~~~ the top 10-20% of guys, then said “So what are you gonna do about it?” what do you think would happen? As I said, it’s never going to happen, but I’m curious as to what you guys think.

Women have already done this – it’s called feminism, a more or less explicit ideological expression of female nature.

MGTOW is an explicit male reaction to this – for some men, a day-to-day coping mechanism; for other men, the basis of a coherent life plan.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

The world will keep spinning and there will be other problems to deal with……

[Author]

Posts