Let This Be A Reminder

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

I couldn’t find the original post one of our members put on here about protecting women and getting involved in third party confrontations, but men this is what can happen. Sad news!

There is NOTHING (unless it is your own kids) more important in this world than your life.

“…he came to the aid of a woman.”

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/04/08/01/56/central-coast-stabbing-victim-may-have-been-helping-woman-before-attack

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I never understood the origin of the expression “No good deed goes unpunished”.

But I do now.

It’s vague and misleading though.
The meaning is lost.

It should be “DONT BE SUCH A F~~~ING WHITE KNIGHT…… YOU PATHETIC PIECE OF S~~~”.

.. but I guess Hallmark never found a polite way of saying it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Even if you’re a successful white knight you still run a sickening risk of being crushed by the law.  If that NSW guy had successfully fended off the attack, he himself would likely be up on assault charges with the courts.  Yes, the courts really are that f~~~ed in the head.  They barely recognize self defense.  No way in hell they’re going to recognize white knightery.  And while he may successfully plea self defense, he’ll still be out tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars and years of his life in the process.  No woman is worth that.  She’s strong and independent.  She can solve her own problems.

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

You are absolutely right Sidecar. Australian legal system has lost the plot, sometimes I wish we had the USA hardened sentencings.

Anyway, it’s one of many reasons I’ve decided to leave Australia, beautiful country but f~~~ed ignorant dumb and uneducated people, laws and society. It’s over…I’m gone this June!

DeepInThought

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DeepInThought:

 

Don’t bother coming to Canada.  It’s a painfully politically correct country.

 

[Anonymous 42]

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DeepInThought: Don’t bother coming to Canada. It’s a painfully politically correct country.

Isn’t Canada the MGTOW capital of the world? Especially Toronto?

DeepInThought wrote:

“…he came to the aid of a woman.”

My friend’s brother (a martial arts dude) had his throat slashed from behind, and repeatedly stabbed to death. He had stopped his friend from beating a girlfriend. Hours later, his “GOOD DEED” was to be murdered for his chivalry.

I now fly through life like a stealth aircraft, I avoid all acts of chivalry. I found out like him, the meaning of no good deed goes unpunished! Avoid the flames of tyranny, let the insanity consume it’s self, just watch the muthua fucca burn, and walk peacefully through the ashes, just going your own way……… F~~~ being a White Knight! F~~~ chivalry!

[MithrilParticipant 17]

I learned this lesson many years ago.  I am licensed to carry a gun.  As owning and carrying guns is a tremendous responsibility I took several training classes, one of which was “The Law of Self Defense.”  During this class we were warned that if you are carrying a gun NEVER come to the aid of someone you don’t know in a situation you don’t understand.  If you come across two people fighting, and you didn’t see the fight start, can you know who started it?  You ONLY draw your firearm if you believe your life is in danger or the life of someone you’re obligated to protect (read as parent, sibling, wife or child) is in danger.  If you want to come to the aid of a stranger, draw your cell phone and call the cops.

Mithril

[Solid SnakeParticipant 255]

Here is another reminder for you guys, in this case someone got iced in Melbourne after coming to the aid of a woman in Melbourne:

After the city shooting will good samaritans think twice before acting

Broadcast: 22/06/2007

STEVE BRACKS, PREMIER: It happened without warning, of course, and has left Melbourne in a state of shock and disbelief. The tragedy of this event is that it’s left three young children without a father because of the heroic efforts that he took to help someone else in need and to support someone else who needed support and assistance at that time.

Brendan Keilar was going about his business on Monday morning when the shooting happened. He saw someone who needed help and did the instinctive thing that many people around Australia would do and that is to offer his help, offer his support to intervene, to protect someone else who appeared vulnerable at the time.

Tragically Mr Keilar died at the scene. He paid a terrible price for his selfless act of heroism and our hearts go out to his wife Alice, his three young children, Phoebe, Lucy and Charlie, his parents and siblings.

CHERYL HALL, REPORTER: The tributes came not only from parliament but from the Governor himself. Dr David de Kretser has contacted the families of Brendan Keilar and Dutch tourist Paul de Waard.

DAVID DE KRETZER, GOVERNOR OF VICTORIA: Clearly I was absolutely shocked at the outcome that something like this could happen in our city at that particular time of the day and also awe struck at the bravery of the two gentlemen who headed in to a scene that they saw happening.

Their concern was for the safety of the person who was being attacked and it’s a huge response which clearly they didn’t have any thought about their own safety or the potential outcomes of that action.

CHERYL HALL: Mr Keilar and Mr De Waard were walking past when they saw Kara Douglas being assaulted. They were probably not expecting the assailant to pull out a gun.

CHRISTINE NIXON, CHIEF COMMISSIONER OF POLICE: I think they assumed it was a domestic kind of incident and they went to intervene and in many instances that would have been sufficient and the police would have been called and that would have been the end of it. In this case the person has a concealed firearm and has used it.

CHERYL HALL: The alleged gunman Christopher Wayne Hudson surrendered peacefully two days later after his lawyer negotiated a deal with police. In the end Hudson would have had no where to run. Author Dr Arthur Veno who has worked with police and bikie gangs says Hudson could not have expected the protection of the hell’s angels.

DR. ARTHUR VENO, MONASH UNIVERSITY: He may have sought it but he wouldn’t have enjoyed their protection. Any incident which involved the shooting, injuring, harming of another innocent bystander, of an innocent bystander would horrify them because they know what kind of heat it’s going to bring on the club.

CHERYL HALL: Victoria’s chief Police Commissioner Christine Nixon says people have legitimate Kearns about getting involved in a violent incident. But she says people must decide for themselves whether to intervene or call the police.

CHRISTINE NIXON: I guess what bothers me is that when something like this happens people say look, I shouldn’t get involved. But I think we know violence is inappropriate, you can’t let it continue, you can’t see someone who is being harmed and not intervene.

CHERYL HALL: Father Jeff O’Hare from the brotherhood of St Lawrence hopes there won’t be a backlash in Melbourne.

JEFF O’HARE, BROTHERHOOD OF ST LAWRENCE: I think probably the truth is that life for us will never be the same for us again. It takes us out of our comfort zone and we’re jumping into the unknown. We don’t know where this is going to take us. But also we have to remember that this was an absolutely momentary situation.

CHERYL HALL: So what would you say to people making that split second decision?

JEFF O’HARE: Go for it. Absolutely. Because everybody matters and it’s one of the great things of this city.

CHERYL HALL: Melbourne did respond. Police at Crime Stoppers say their phones rang hot.

SENIOR SGT VAL SMITH, CRIMESTOPPERS: The response was quite immediate and most of the people, in fact all the people calling wanted to help. They wanted to help solve that particular case. So it galvanised the community into an immediate response to a very, very serious and tragic crime.

CHERYL HALL: Melbourne’s Anglican Archbishop Philip Freier knows what it’s like to be the victim of an assault.

PHILIP FREIER, ANGLICAN ARCHBISHOP OF MELBOURNE: I was the victim of an armed hold up and had a gun held to my head and I just know from that experience how long it took me to start feeling good about life again and I think there’s a lot of people who would have been bystanders, people obviously who had been very involved who are going to have a lot of trauma that they will need to work through in the weeks and months ahead because it does take a long time to come to a sense of peace and goodness about life.

CHERYL HALL: Brendan Keilar’s family will no doubt take a long time to recover. He’s likery to be officially recognised for bravery with his name already before the Australian bravery decorations council.

DAVID DE KRETSER: Heart felt sympathies go out to the family, to Alice and to Charlie and Phoebe and Lucy and the two parents and his parents at this time. I think all Victorians will join me in expressing their grief and sorrow and hopefully they would, over the period of time, have incredibly happy memories of their father and husband.

CHERYL HALL: The family of Dutch tourist Paul de Waard arrived from the Netherlands last night. They expressed their sympathy for Brendan Keilar’s family.

MARJAN HEIJNEN, MOTHER: I’m so sad for you. I can’t say anything about it, no. He is alive. That man is dead so it’s very difficult.

BART DE WAART, BROTHER: It doesn’t happen in Australia. You’re a relaxed country so it’s not suppose to happen here and now it happened here.

CHERYL HALL: In this circumstance this seems to be people who become involved because they acted on a real sense of caring and I think it would be a shame if we lost that sense of caring in our society.

http://www.abc.net.au/stateline/vic/content/2006/s1959447.htm

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

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DeepInThought: Don’t bother coming to Canada. It’s a painfully politically correct country.

I have some mates in Montreal telling me to move that way actually.

 

@SolidSnake – Yeah I remember that event. My god time has passed so quickly!

@MG-Tower – That is a horrific story about your friends brother.

@mithril – You made a solid point here. Biggest problem with white knighting I have found in situations like this is it happens when alcohol is involved. SO what worries me personally is even though I am evolving as a MGTOW if I have had a few and my judgement is impaired will my existing and initial life grooming of being a white knight come out? I hope not.

But I have learnt that it is none of my business and I generally stay away from places where these things (clubs/pubs/red light areas) are likely to occur and a saying I always remind myself of “If you put yourself in a bad position, bad things can happen.”

@sidecar – Yep the whole legal system here is a joke. It only truly serves you if you have serious money for the best legal representation.

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/riley-dehn-stabbed-to-death-trying-to-defend-friend-in-car-park-fight-20150410-1miuqr.html

[….Participant 305]

@ Deepinthought   QWV is right…Canada is a politically correct hellhole like every other habitable country has become…as for Montreal…I moved from there years ago…f~~~ing language police and tons of other bulls~~~…up to their asses in debt…f~~~ed up infrastructure…if you don’t mind being a second (or third) class citizen because you are English speaking, then it might be for you. Otherwise , IMHO , Quebec is a festering boil on the ass of North America. Here’s some food for thought    http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/more/postscript …  dead link but worth the effort of typing it in for anybody thinking about moving there.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Preach it! In 2004, I had a job offer in Montreal and came dangerously close to accepting it. That little red pill voice told me it would have been a mistake of such gigantic proportions it would have ruined my life and made wretched my destiny.

Turns out I was right. My experience and exposure with French Canadians dates back to when I was 11. And don’t get me started on the women. They have a unique temperament and disposition, shall we say.

I got a bad vibe in the interview when the presidential man-jawed c~~~ in charge asked “why are you looking?” (for a job).

ME: “I don’t understand the question.You placed an ad, and I responded to it, and you invited me here. I already have a job. So all you need to do is make me an offer. Isn’t that why we are here? Why are YOU looking?”

She didn’t like that answer. NOT. ONE. BIT. Everyone in the room got uncomfortable. It took all my self control to stop from smiling, but I played totally obtuse like I really didn’t undertsand her question. Upon reflection, I loved it so much, it became my stock response in job searches ever since.

I know what answer she wanted. She wanted me to spew some politically-correct bulls~~~ in the air in front of everyone – to see just how hard I was willing to tongue her asshole. Then it backfired in her face like a ripping good fart.

Not taking that position in Montreal was the best move I ever made. Or at least, one of the best mistakes I avoided.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

For me the possibility of Canada would have been more economic reasons, I could live a richer life in Canada vs Australia for the money I have, plus it is close to Europe, Caribbean and NYC for work and pleasure. I have also been looking around South of France as well, Cap Martin to be exact. I have no intention of dating Canadian women.

[RennieParticipant]

Canada is certainly no better than any other civilized country. We have the same problems as everyone else. Quebec is ghetto, (especially the northern part). The women aren’t much good for anything either. Government spies on it’s own citizens (“atomic banjo”). We may also get our own obama next election. Toronto is turning into an unproductive leisure city, where everything is being flattened to build more ultra expensive condos.

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