Let the un-hating begin.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Lately we have been getting some bad rep that “MGTOWs are just a bunch of whiners who’s filling up cyber space with misogynistic ideals and views” <- and this idea is sowly eroding our vital principle:
No love, no hate, no f~~~s given.
So I wanted to state some points that might help re-define the true meaning of going our own way. Please be welcome to join me.

I do not hate women as a whole sex class because even though they are flawed, its not their individual mistakes which are responsible; they are just brought up that way. Its just their biology to be like that; nothing less, nothing more. They were good once; they created an uprising in order to liberate themselves from their short-comings in a good and effective way; but unfortunately their ideals turned sour and they were misguided and misinformed; which eventually poisoned their basic cognition of their opposite sex.

I do not blame them for what they have become. Maybe it was all inevitable. I don’t have the brainpower to get into the depths of that topic so this is what I believe.

What do you believe?

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Varun, I’ve had similar thoughts. I don’t hate women either. They were created by God. That being said, so were you, our brothers, and myself. Peace Varun. Thank you for bringing this topic up.

[WhackerGuy2030Participant 999]

NFG is hard. I’m doing well with it. The buddy I brought up the other day that caught his girlfriend talking dirty to some guy on her phone, not so much. I advised he walk away and just leave a quick polite note that it’s over. But he’s all-in to confront her, make her confess, and get some tears.

I asked, “Why waste the time?”

[OgreParticipant 5863]

Varun, if you’re going your own way what does a bad rep matter anyway?

I’m not a misogynist, I’m actually fairly indifferent to all people with a slight tilt toward being a misanthrope. I hate human nature to abuse each other not just women’s, and other than here it’s pretty universal.

As far as what anybody might say about MGTOWs hating women, nope not even a little. Since I don’t need them to pay my bills their opinions are insignificant.

I guess this is a long way of agreeing, in general MGTOW don’t appear to hate women. Understanding women, talking about how the majority of M/F relationships wind up going, and choosing sovereignty aren’t signs of hate. They are signs of understanding.

As for me personally, women would have to matter for me to hate them. I’m doing my best to isolate myself permanently from all individual and societal associations with women, full ghost is the goal.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[EtrangereParticipant 706]

See , I feel this is a way that people try to hijack the movement. It isn’t about MISOGYNY , or them. It is about US. Taking care of our problems in a society where men have become second class citizens , and if you’re white then you’re characterized far worse than that. Don’t let them make it about THEM….it isn’t. I don’t hate women. I love them , but I hate what feminism has done to them and US. MGTOW is about us refusing to play a game that has been tilted against US. They control the SEX , WE control LTR’s and marriage….until their is more balance in this current dynamic , I’m not going to play their lop-sided relationship game any more. The sobering reality is that (I’m 49) I doubt I see it in my lifetime.

[Anonymous 42]

Bulls~~~! Some feminist SJW makes a video using only chosen excerpts from freshly KICKED MGTOW PUPPIES and we’re all misogynists??? F~~~ that! We make no apology for the yelping MGTOW puppy and his ear piercing tirades! GET F~~~ING USE TO IT FEMINISTS! If you’re so f~~~ing uncomfortable with the yelping, STOP THE F~~~ING KICKING!
I make no apology! F~~~ THEM AND THEIR LEGALIZED BRUTALITY!

No “hatred” resides in me, just a keen sense of injustice, empathy, and the willingness to say something!

It’s just like feminists to deflect all guilt onto men as a whole!

No feminism, the limelight is on YOU! GET FUCLKING USE TO IT!

[BrujahParticipant 579]

Varun wrote:

No love, no hate, no f~~~s given.

They were good once; they created an uprising in order to liberate themselves from their short-comings in a good and effective way; but unfortunately their ideals turned sour and they were misguided and misinformed; which eventually poisoned their basic cognition of their opposite sex.

Evolve or go extinct basically.

But in order for there to be such a reaction that caused MGTOW in the first place, there had to be something that uprooted the “natural flow”.

[AttonParticipant]

I believe that many women are simply perpetual juveniles, who men pander to without reason or justification. I don’t hate women I expect nothing of them or want anything from them. They have nothing to give or do other than cry about how they are oppressed but when opportunity knocks on there door they run away. I reject the notion that women have ever been victimized by men on mass, I reserve my sympathy for men and minority men who are the primary victims of most social problems. I believe in the advancement of men in education and protection from discrimination like affirmative action. I also believe in the male birth control pill and education that allows men to think critically. Oh and the total abolition of the draft and alimony.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous 25]

They appear to be operating under the mistaken assumption that I care what they think.

I’m not even listening to their monologue.

Mgtow is growing. Men are getting happier.

That’s all that matters. Let the haters hate.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

I love it that the feminists hate us. That part makes me happy actually. The truth in mgtow will never change. It exposed all there wickedness for any man that can see with his eyes. We now know what we’re fighting against, the matrix. Do you see the lady in the red dress?

Exactly.

“Non-violence spreads from love and cowardice springs from hate. But to befriend the ones who regard themselves as your enemy is the quintessence of true religion.” ~ Gandhi

Here Gandhi says that hate only spews hate; negativity only spews negativity. They hate us, okay. But if we hate them back, how different are we from them then?

Of course we have a nature of ‘getting back’ and ‘backlashing’ whuich is perfecty normal behaviour; it is a perfectly normal reaction. You caught your gf cheating; you caught your wife cheating, then you go crazy for a while. That isn’t hate.

But what we should not do is convert that reaction into a habit. MGTOW means focusing off what makes you ‘miserable’ to what makes you ‘happy’.

Now I won’t say ‘befriend’ them like Gandhi says; no befriending; but also taking care to not make enemies. There is something wrong, we are passively protesting; no hatred; no shouting; just unplugging from the compromised system and withdrawing our resources from it. This way our true value will be realized by those who havebn’t realized it yet; and hopefully they would amend themselves.

Do not hate, people. Hating will only make YOU miserable, the person you hate would not be affected by it. You want to ‘get back’? You want to prove your worth? Prove it. Do what you do best. Convert all that negative energy into positive energy to push your goal ever so high. Nothing will annoy them more than your self-accomplishment.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Do I hate Germans … NO

Do I hate Germany … NO

Do I hate Hitler, the guards at Auschwitz that were doing their job, Stalin, Pol Pot?

You see the problem is that if you say NOTHING in the face of tyrants … you are with them.

If you don’t fight tyranny you are part of it.

If you don’t walk away from it you are complicit.

I will never harm, hurt or destroy women but I won’t sit here at take their s~~~.

Don’t fking ask me to forgive them either.

They don’t eat at me but they keep wanting to push my life.

Until they fully admit their evil or just fk off …. I will continue to see them as they are …. actions or more serious .. inactions.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6406]

Its just their biology to be like that;

This I do believe. Nature fine tuned by nurture.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

hmskl’d wrote:

Its just their biology to be like that;

This I believe.

They were good once;

To say this, I need additional study.

Fact, of course, that criminals aren’t born criminals out of the womb. Its their environment that pollutes them; misguides them and finally condemns them to perform an unforgiveable action.

Just like that, I believe women aren’t born ‘evil’ out of the womb. Its just the poison of the prevalent society that turns them into what they become.

You’re annoyed of them not because of just who they are, do you?
Just imagine the mannequins at retail stores that look like women; devoid of life, not creating much of an impact anywhere with their entirety. Do you hate them? No.

We are just annoyed of what they do; how they view things; how they impact our mutual environment <- this is what annoys us the most; what drives them; what caused them to be that way <- that is what we actually hate.

Once we are abe to distinguish the disease from the symptoms, we can better understand our feelings towards them.

Sorry for trying to sound like a oring philosophy. I’ve been trying hard to answer these questions; and those are the only answers I can make out.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I do understand this … I really do … but …

When the zombies have been trained to kick your door down and slice your dick off …. don’t hate them?

Understand that’s just who they are? It’s not their fault … it the zombie trainers?

I’m sorry .. I leave them alone. I think nothing of them. I avoid them … BUT ..

When they try and take my kid, money, make laws against me, sentld white knights, falsely accuse and then cry victim when I bite back …

I never asked or wanted this. I wanted to be left alone …. but they are not doing that.

[Anonymous 3]

While I do think indifference is the ultimate objective here, I must say, there is absolutely nothing wrong with hating women. It’s akin to hating chocolate, or cats, or plane rides, or the smell of raw fish, it’s just another thing, nothing more. If you hate it, you hate it. If you hate women, you hate women.

Stop playing their game. I see all the time, new introduction threads, people saying “oh I’m MGTOW but I don’t hate women” as if you have something to justify. Women are just another thing. Whether you hate it or not, that’s on you, and it’s your responsibility, yours to deal with. If you ask me, I say try not to hate anything and instead maintain Zen, because negative emotions are going to take a toll on you over time. Besides that, feel what you feel, it’s completely out of my or anybody else’s realm of concern.

I also think hate, like love and other emotions, is temporary so eventually it’ll burn out. Again, feel what you feel. The entire spectrum of human emotions is all yours.

[Anonymous 3]

Varun wrote:

Just like that, I believe women aren’t born ‘evil’ out of the womb. Its just the poison of the prevalent society that turns them into what they become.

And where does this “poison of the prevalent society” come from?

You can try to look for the invisible boogeyman all you want, but at the end, you always come back with the same conclusion, you always come back to the mirror. Everything that exists in society is put there by us. To say women are turned into what they are today by the things they themselves created is blasphemous.

I’ve said this before, Feminism is the product of women, not the other way around.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Hans Litten

Nobody knows who he is .. or was.

Had he been around today he would very much understand the FemiNazi ways. The FemiReich it fights for. The Feminazation of everyone. The mental illness that is now Feminazi National Socialism

HANS LITTEN

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

I think you need another glass of water. You seemed to not have swallowed the red pill yet.

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I don’t think any true MGTOW hates all females. I certainly don’t. Some might hate a single or small group of females.

I just want them to leave me alone and stay away from my money and my tax dollars.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

I don’t think any true MGTOW hates all females. I certainly don’t. Some might hate a single or small group of females.

I just want them to leave me alone and stay away from my money and my tax dollars.

BINGO

Stop sponging my money for your health, womens centres, abortions, womens this that and the other.

Stop using my money for your extended life expectancy pension or your education, welfare and s~~~ life choices.

If they can do that I’ll stop thinking everything they say is lies.

You can ignore everyone very easily … you just ignore them.

But when they are constantly dipping in your wallet and bank account …. well then … that gets your attention somewhat.

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