Let me explain why MGTOW is NOT like Feminism

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

MGTOW is far away from what feminism is for the following reason: MGTOW is not about hate, the men that are part of it do not want to have MORE rights than women, they do not want to destroy the family CONCEPT, they just accept the state of things, they accept that women started the gender wars to end the nuclear family, to end the cultural and societal constructions that were crucial to build our society. MGTOW is about PEACE, there are no men screaming around the streets, going on a TV show and using fake arguments to their advantage(wage gap, rape culture, and much more bullocks), men are WALKING AWAY peacefully. You probably had this view of MGTOW because of some angry men(that have all the reasons to be mad after the SCAM they had to live and survive), they discover what we are living and why things happened to them, they discovered the war on them TOO LATE, and all that rage is just a way to deal with reality.

What you do not see is what happens after that rage subsides, men focus on themselves, job, studies, whatever. And most of them deal with women on a daily basis, but they are just not interested anymore in putting up with lies and fake accusations, they are not interested in being used as walking ATMs or random dildos by unleashed women who are now in charge because laws and the state are on their side in most countries.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[StormtrooperParticipant 1080]

Very simply put, I don’t hate women, I just understand them. They are very fickle, manipulative creatures.

I don’t like people who want to manipulate me, so I don’t want to be in the company of a woman.

Having a girlfriend is like owning a gun, the longer your around it, the more you want to shoot it.

[MACHOParticipant]

Very nice summary of what MGTOW men stands for!

Blue Skies wrote:

MGTOW is far away from what feminism is for the following reason:

Blue Skies wrote:

MGTOW is not about hate,

Blue Skies wrote:

they do not want to destroy the family CONCEPT,

Blue Skies wrote:

MGTOW is about PEACE, there are no men screaming around the streets, going on a TV show

Blue Skies wrote:

men are WALKING AWAY peacefully

Blue Skies wrote:

after that rage subsides, men focus on themselves, job, studies, whatever.

Blue Skies wrote:

not interested anymore in putting up with lies and fake accusations, they are not interested in being used as walking ATMs

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[BrujahParticipant 579]

The only thing I would say are similar is the very act of protest. However the key difference is that a feminist will publicly and loudly protest by blocking roads, interrupting speeches and forming human chains.

MGTOW is a silent protest of inaction. It’s why the detractors continue to flail their arms and whine because they can’t figure out how to beat us . How do you beat an enemy that doesn’t even show up to the battlefield.

You can’t take what I have if I’ve already burnt it.

[neverAgainParticipant 1662]

here’s my two cents:

Feminism has become toxic.
MGTOW is freedom.

All good things come to an end.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

The five stages of grief are:

denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance

those in the anger phase are often very vocal and they can sound hateful. however this is just a is a short term phase, often named the red pill rage.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

funny acronyms….

MGTOW = Men Guarding Their Own Wallets
MGTOW = Men Getting Tired Of Whores
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MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Anonymous 43]

feminism = action, protests, anger

MGTOW = walking away, saying no, understanding

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

here’s a good video about this topic…

The Fall of Feminism

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MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Anonymous 42]

I don’t have to explain it to anyone, I just am.

[Anonymous 6]

Ummmm… ‘cuz feminism is bulls~~~. If you’re still confused read the first line again.

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

The only thing feminism and MGTOW have in common is the rejection of gender roles.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[AwakenedParticipant 35203]

Feminist WANT/NEED to Fight, Yell, Scream, and other ATTENTION getting tactics to try and Spread THEIR HATEFUL DESTRUCTIVE POISONOUS Agenda.

MGTOW just don’t want to hear it ANYMORE, and would rather just walk away to find a comfortable spot on a mountainside beneath a shady tree with a cool drink to just watch the whole Feminist Society S~~~ House go up in flames !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[FreedomParticipant 295]

From my limited exposure, it seems that feminism is a political movement that perpetuates itself by spreading a philosophy of victim-hood and entitlement.

MGTOW is a cultural movement in which members encourage each other to better themselves, and seek personal independence.

Feminist agendas are focused on changing laws and culture to force men to behave in self-destructive ways for the benefit of women. MGTOW agendas are focused on educating and encouraging men to choose to avoid women (and the various associated risks).

It is wise to fear dangerous commitments.

[trader1913Participant 1577]

Feminism and MGTOW are two sides of the gender coin.

Feminism is women seeking out their own interests while MGTOW is men seeking out their own interests.

Feminism produces many negative consequences for men because women seeking out their own interest means they are actively going against men’s interests. Higher taxes to transfer wealth from men to women, laws to endanger innocent men’s lives, discrimination against men in education and the workforce etc.

MGTOW produces many negative consequences for women because men seeking out their own interests means saying no to women and yes to freedom. MGTOW are denying women their meal ticket, not being held to ransom in family courts, refusing to be part of a support network for women that does them favours simply for being women.

Feminism is the parasite trying its best to leech from the host, while MGTOW is the host breaking free from the parasite.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Feminism is the wife of the state, that’s why they have to complain and scream to convince manginas to enforce laws and policies meant exclusively for women’s benefit.
MGTOW is about being single / no commitment.

The difference between feminism and MGTOW is the difference between a married woman and a single man.

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[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

trader1913 wrote:

Higher taxes to transfer wealth from men to women

Careful here.
The problem isn’t taxes in itself, but how they’re used.
We are at risk of being hijacked by certain political ideas, I saw it happening in my country: here men’s movement is largely hijacked by tradcons/catholics.
Trump, and particularly Betsy De Vos, are doing something for men’s rights, but that doesn’t automatically mean that right wing politics/less taxes = men’s rights – under tradcon nuts it would be different.

Example: someone propose state support to divorced fathers.
It would mean supporting men, but also more taxes.
Would you oppose it on the grounds that “more taxes are bad for men”?
It’s a complex thing, issues should be judged on a case-by-case basis.
Another example: in my country “men’s movement” (so-called) oppose surrogacy. That’s clearly against men. It happens because the movement have been hijacked by tradcons/catholics.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[trader1913Participant 1577]

Eric Lauder wrote:

Careful here.
The problem isn’t taxes in itself, but how they’re used.
We are at risk of being hijacked by certain political ideas, I saw it happening in my country: here men’s movement is largely hijacked by tradcons/catholics.
Trump, and particularly Betsy De Vos, are doing something for men’s rights, but that doesn’t automatically mean that right wing politics/less taxes = men’s rights – under tradcon nuts it would be different.

Example: someone propose state support to divorced fathers.
It would mean supporting men, but also more taxes.
Would you oppose it on the grounds that “more taxes are bad for men”?
It’s a complex thing, issues should be judged on a case-by-case basis.
Another example: in my country “men’s movement” (so-called) oppose surrogacy. That’s clearly against men. It happens because the movement have been hijacked by tradcons/catholics.

It was not said with any political motives; i have no desire to discuss things like politics. It was simply an example of what feminists do; they want more government initiatives for women which has to be funded.

The vast majority of tax revenue comes from men and the vast majority of tax expenditure on people goes to women. So higher taxes generally means a net transfer of wealth from men to women.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

trader1913 wrote:

Eric Lauder wrote:

Careful here.
The problem isn’t taxes in itself, but how they’re used.
We are at risk of being hijacked by certain political ideas, I saw it happening in my country: here men’s movement is largely hijacked by tradcons/catholics.
Trump, and particularly Betsy De Vos, are doing something for men’s rights, but that doesn’t automatically mean that right wing politics/less taxes = men’s rights – under tradcon nuts it would be different.

Example: someone propose state support to divorced fathers.
It would mean supporting men, but also more taxes.
Would you oppose it on the grounds that “more taxes are bad for men”?
It’s a complex thing, issues should be judged on a case-by-case basis.
Another example: in my country “men’s movement” (so-called) oppose surrogacy. That’s clearly against men. It happens because the movement have been hijacked by tradcons/catholics.

It was not said with any political motives; i have no desire to discuss things like politics. It was simply an example of what feminists do; they want more government initiatives for women which has to be funded.

The vast majority of tax revenue comes from men and the vast majority of tax expenditure on people goes to women. So higher taxes generally means a net transfer of wealth from men to women.

Sure, higher taxes generally means a net transfer of wealth from men to women, that’s right.
But such general principle shouldn’t be used to oppose initiatives that are beneficial to men, countless examples can be made:
Scholarships, gender neutral scholarships, in faculties that are mainly male.
Subsidizing a DV shelter for men (or even gender neutral, not managed by feminists).
In my country taxes have been recently used to provide 10 apartments at very low rent to divorced fathers.

My point is that a government that is prejudicially against taxes would oppose all the above measures.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[ironheartParticipant 942]

God I love the clarity of thought this site brings to the table.

We can see the world for what it really is, and that realism is what defines MGTOW. On the flip side, delusional thinking is what defines Feminist beliefs.

"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"

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