Learning how to die

[StealthParticipant 5330]

I have spent most of my life learning how to live. Dreaming big. Looking towards the future. Pursuing education, working hard, saving all my money, striving to maximize my potential, and moving closer to that “someday” when I will have “made it.”

I ran across a motto “Learn how to die” and realize that ever since my divorce it is my new challenge.

Get robbed of your health, your labor, your kids, your spouse, your friends, parents. Everything but what is left of your dignity, by still being able to technically choose for yourself. I am thankful for that much. And that’s life, isn’t it?

So now, I am practicing dying. It’s a lesson I never really thought I’d need to learn. I think it will help my life in some way–by allowing me to let go–of . . . well, everything.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

I suggest you look into “minimalism”. Similar concept, but instead of killing yourself, you find cut things out of your life until you find you footing and then work outward from there.

[Anonymous 7]

Prepping is more fun, I think.

Just sayin’

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22510]

Anonymous wrote:

Prepping is more fun, I think.

Just sayin’

Prepping is mostly a man thing anyway. Preparing and planning for possible upcoming scenarios. Prepping is to not be as much of a burden on others and to retain more control over your future than those unprepared.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Anonymous 7]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Prepping is to not be as much of a burden on others and to retain more control over your future than those unprepared.

Well, said.

Did I miss the OPs point and respond while missing the point?
Sometimes the stuff in philosophy goes over my head.

[Anonymous 12]

I was once told that the American Indians would wander off somewhere when they felt it was time and just will themselves to die. I always liked that concept. It seemed more respectable than just withering away.

I was also told about an old bloke who would go to the pub every day, one day he walks in orders a beer sits in his booth and simply died. It was like he knew and he didn’t want to die alone.

I think having all your affairs in order and knowing it is time, not being afraid of it is very dignified.

[MACHOParticipant]

Deep stuff, great post! as we get older we have to get used to letting go, detaching ourselves from many different things that are either out of our reach or our control. It’s not an easy task but it might make the transition go smoother when approaching the end.

Stealth wrote:

So now, I am practicing dying. It’s a lesson I never really thought I’d need to learn. I think it will help my life in some way–by allowing me to let go–of . . . well, everything

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

The end of our race doesn’t have to be death, nor do we have to ponder over it. Throughout our lifetime we’ve been given a sample of death when we rest heavily or become unconscious, but we wake up and start a new day not knowing what’s in store for us. All we can do is prepare ourselves when that forever sleep does appear so I wouldn’t recommend having death as your objective because that’s a realm beyond our comprehension. You should just focus on living a well meaning and constructive life so that when death does approach you, you can leave the flesh calm and peacefully.

Δεν υπάρχει τίποτε αδύνατο γι’ αυτόν που θα προσπαθήσει. - Μέγας Αλέξανδρος

[DocParticipant]

I highly recommend The Daily Stoic.

366 meditations. Each one page long and each designed to be read and in 5 minutes. One per day of the year.
Just enough to digest over the course of each day.

They teach some basic ways to think that are profound.

Stoic indifference being just one technique.
Not giving a f~~~ is freedom.

Knowing what to give a f~~~ about. Like our MGTOW philosophy of No F~~~s Given.

I won’t use this post as a plug. But seriously guys if you haven’t already got this book I highly recommend it.

On the subject of dying – I used to be totally unafraid when I was younger. Now I am older I sometimes have moments where the thought terrifies me. I don’t really know why. I think it’s because I have kids and want to be in this world with them as long as possible.

I watched my dad slowly dying in the Emergency y Room after life support was withdrawn although I want in the room when he actually went as I needed some air.
But that memory has stayed with me.

It made me realise that yes we truly do die alone but the lucky ones have someone holding their hand as they die.
The blessed are held in someone’s arms as they die.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 42]

Were’s Carange? he’s our in-house expert on all things death!

[Anonymous 54]

I worry what would happen to my Critters.

I cant imagine any one else rideing my Bike or playing my Bass.

I dont like the thought of it.

There is so much of my charater worn into them.

I hope its not cold out when I go.

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Stealth wrote:

So now, I am practicing dying. It’s a lesson I never really thought I’d need to learn. I think it will help my life in some way–by allowing me to let go–of

I second you, brother! Fear of death is our steering wheel we aren’t taught to control so it may be easily used by someone else! You are on the right way.

Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

None of this is sitting well with me. Brother are you okay? Please call me if you want. I will PM the phone number to you, or drop me an email.

Imickey503@gmail.com.

Remember, james bond. Tomorrow never dies stealth.

I had it all taken away from me too. All of it. All over again.

I got a letter that said that they all of a sudden assigned me a probation officer (the judge changed the order, FUNNY how they can do that AFTER the fact. )

Man, I don’t want people to feel that way. I know its hard at times Stealth. I know it everyday.

But then again, I’m not a good guy to talk too. I have no intention of going quietly.

But you man, you got a good life man.

And f~~~ it. I CARE ABOUT YOU! We don’t need more white men f~~~ing checking out. F~~~ THAT NOISE.

I bet you don’t even know how much good you do just being around. And I bet you take yourself for granted. Well, I am telling you stealth. Each day you are around, is a gift. I don’t care if you end up pushing yourself in a wheelchair. You are worth it man. You mind is sharp! And you got a good soul brother.

Good men are hard to find. I know that’s me asking you to do something. I know I have no right to do so. But I ask you to please think about all the good that you do. And how much it means to me personally that You are around for a VERY long time and life a great life.

I want my son’s to know some of you great men, and when the dust settles, they are going to need men like you to show others the way.

If nothing else changes you mind that you still have a LONG good life ahead of you with good things to come. I want you to think about this.

You guys here are the only thing that stops men like me, from being a national headline.

If not the world. You guys are my new family. And I don’t want to see any of you go anywhere.

So stealth, please contact me if you need to. Once you talk to me, you will find a new zest for ignoring me. THat should give you a reason to live all by itself. 🙂

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[StealthParticipant 5330]

iMickey, thanks for your concern… your comments bring the discussion back to the idea of personal struggle. While my notes are indeed born of a kind of depressed thought, they are not a cry for help. Yes times are tough, but I am usually tougher. However, this round life is obviously winning, and I acknowledge that. Your comments are, still, highly valued. Thank you. Suicide ideation is a thought for many throughout life, and I am no different. It’s nothing I seriously consider anymore… I have seen it from the outside, and it just doesn’t make sense.

It is hard for men who have made extra sacrifices to cultivate a quality life and develop themselves, to watch it just disappear. Whether through illness, getting robbed or injured, it is very much like dying. So it is a good way to build muscle, an exercise in grinning and bearing it. Or, like the stoics, being thankful for what is there, and letting it go, acknowledging that life and all the things in it are gifts to us. These are gifts we are never entitled to, and they can be taken away at any moment.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[Blood AxeParticipant 1179]

Death, I like to say dirt sleep.
I believe it’s ok to think about it. How will I die? Will it hurt? How long will it take?
I won’t lie I’ve thought about how to end it all, if I were in terrible pain and suffering. The best idea I’ve come up with so far would be an old black powder (flint lock) pistol, like a pirate would have, “arrr matey, it’s time to meet Davey Jones”. If one is dieing of a terminal illness, why not go out in style. I find a little humor helps cope with such deep and dark thoughts. I don’t believe anyone should choose suicide, but for those who are terminal and suffering, I don’t know, until I get there.

Back off Barbie!

[Anonymous 54]

Suicide does not change Mortality.

It fools with Father Time.

Who are we to go against his will.

[VladParticipant 210]

2 Stealth
While I am not professional, what you write raises some subjective red flags for me. If I may inquire, have you by any chance thoroughly checked you heart recently?

Marriage is the tomb of love (c)Giacomo Casanova

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

Looking at divorce as death is nothing new, some even take it to that point when the dark can not be overcome. Or giving up the dreams you grew up with. Myself I had a real hard time when I turned 25, had always had this ideal that I would have the house, wife, kid, car, job, white picket fence by the time I reached that age. The only ting at 25 I was in the middle of my first divorce, all of which lead to my bad decision to find another woman and get married.

Perhaps it is time to think about it as a new birth, throwing off the shackles of the past.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[StealthParticipant 5330]

Vlad wrote:

2 Stealth
While I am not professional, what you write raises some subjective red flags for me. If I may inquire, have you by any chance thoroughly checked you heart recently?

……Checked my heart?

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

I spent last year pondering death deeply in a bad way and I have much to say:

We have many religious and non-religious beliefs about what is on the other side but no one really knows for sure what awaits us. All we know is that death is a very permanent thing. Death is part of life but we should let nature decide when we should kick the bucket. Making the final solution ourselves is not a decision one can take back when one does a good job of it. Yes, we all die alone even in war or a mass shooting because it is very personal. The older I get, the more friends, relatives and celebrities I grew up with go away. It makes one feel more and more alone.

I do not fear death as I will be welcoming an old friend that many I grew up with have already met. I think it will give me plenty of time to rest. At the same time, the dead miss out on what is going on above ground. The dead have no hope to change things for better or worse because they have nothing but a box or ashes, not even themselves.

On the spiritual level: The atheist is all dressed up with no place to go. Most main religions tend to frown on one making the final decision unless it is to save others (The Marine that jumps on a grenade to save his buddies, ect…). There are a few cults that did a mass suicide but I don’t think Heavens Gate ever danced on comet Hale Bopp in their new Nikes.

As a Valentinian Gnostic Christian, I don’t believe in a Loving God that says: “Love me or I will burn you forever!” Those that don’t make the cut just simply cease to exist. Those that know the Godhead will discover another dimension and the true reality. Some reading may think I am full of crap but Yeshiva and Sophia would disagree IMO. The debate has gone on for at least thousands of years. Like MGTOW, I think our reality is not what we think it is. This is a test and only a test.

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