Latest MGTOW smear campaing from lolcow PUA

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

What does this asshat gain from shaming men ?

I mean does he get check from feminist HQ for every runaway he brings back?

I’m not even sure he is describing mgtow as practiced on this site.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

I’m not even sure he is describing mgtow as practiced on this site.

He’s not. They are quoting from piddly comments found elsewhere.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

If you read the comments, there is a post from a guy named Roosh. Read it.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Jeezus t~~~, Keymaster, those are some incredible engagement stats!

[Arthur RodriguesParticipant 21]

One problem is that the “Men Going Their Own Way”, cannot be understood without be precisely defined and know, otherwise will be easily to attack without be necessary to consider or refute this rational choice, or just say “is a religion” “Is just like feminism” etc. When we are talking about it, Men Going Their Own Way are usually two things, that are confusing even mgtow community:

One:
Men who avoid risks associated with women and social norms by themselves – Men Going Their Own Way (The precise definition).

Two: A community that unite the same men, and talk about things that is not Men Going Their Own Way itself, but is indirectly related with it: male psychology, data, theory’s, etc. Is important to make this clear is this site to avoid confusion of other people I think.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Keymaster wrote:

They are forgetting cohabitation.

There is a REASON relationships with women are slavery and fail a cost/benefit analysis – whether your married to her or not.

….etc etc

Yes. I couldn’t agree more. That marriage and most relationships fail the cost benefit analysis is exactly why I’m here.

I think that’s the difference – ROK sees us as people who have given up entirely as if we’re beaten in some way. HE doesn’t seem to take into account that it may be a well reasoned, conscious decision.

That said, from some of the posts on here I can understand where he got his (misguided) POV of the nature of MGTOW. There are many that seem to revel in the downfall of women like one would with an opposing sports team, rather than just exhibit indifference.

Please understand, I don’t begrudge them this. Some of us have had such horrendous experiences it is only human nature to take comfort in perceived(or real if you prefer) justice/payback. Hence my observation.

I completely understand that. In the case of ROK, I think he’s mistaking something that goes along with MGTOW or is a natural consequence of it, with what MGTOW is really all about.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Mr. Man wrote:

Jeezus t~~~, Keymaster, those are some incredible engagement stats!

Yes when an advertiser contacted us for those numbers out of interest, they thought we were lying. They thought 12 minutes average time on site was CRAZY. Then I told them it was 19 minutes, they were like “BULLS~~~”.

This was as of 2015.12.31

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Our engagement and interest numbers are +400% better than Business Insider (for example), Jezebel, ROK, AVFM… and almost TWICE as high as AskMen. They are all “more popular”, but that doesn’t mean “better”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

That said, from some of the posts on here I can understand where he got his (misguided) POV of the nature of MGTOW. There are many that seem to revel in the downfall of women like one would with an opposing sports team, rather than just exhibit indifference.

Well isn’t EVERYONE “misunderstood”, really?

They just don’t get it.

Take for example “MGTOW can’t get laid”. The first and most tragic failure shaming attempt at MGTOW… and it’s not even exclusive to MGTOW! Not getting laid is not exclusive to MGTOW. You know who ELSE can’t get laid? Hot 20 year old chicks. Not even outwardly attractive 20 something women can get laid…. and they make music videos about it.

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So “not getting laid” is not exclusive to MGTOW.
Neither is a defeatist / loser mentality.

The ONLY thing that is exclusive to MGTOW that separates MGTOW from anyone else is a refusal to to take social cues from anyone else, and to place their own sovereignty above ALL other things. It doesn’t even have anything to do with “women!”. Women are not even mentioned on the about page! ONCE!! But discussing how to avoid the pitfalls of getting involved with them is a BIG part of maintaining your own sovereignty.

It’s like being a good driver.

It’s not enough to just “Be a good driver”.
You need to actively practice collision avoidance.

So all this ROK bulls~~~ posturing and lecturing on “how to be a better man” is all a bunch of CRAP. That’s not even the HALF of it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[HitmanParticipant]

I don’t care what anyone says or writes about this site.
It found me in my darkest hours. .
It inspired me to take back the control I foolishly gave away.
I rebuilt my life and still love to f~~~..not one man here has said a bad word about my choices. .
I get the support and wisdom of men who have gone down the path I went and survived. .
I get the knowledge and support of the men here who avoided the marriage trap..
I never got shamed here. .information that is scattered throughout the media is shared here that I could never find in one place. .
This is it..
Sanity in a world full of crazy power hungry c~~~s and their stooges. .
Throw the mud..
MGTOW is a shield that is impenetrable.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

The difference between ROK and MGTOW.COM?

I willing pay every month to support this site.

This site adds value to my life.

This site saves lives.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Al BundyParticipant 245]

Bah, most of those PUAs are repressed f~~~~~s trying to deny the truth. They should just go somewhere and gobble a knob and get it over with. Pussy’s fine, but it ain’t all that. Get a life, BOYS.

[W]e are MGTOW. We eat shaming language like tic tacs.

--chir

I have known more men destroyed by the desire to have wife and child and to keep them in comfort than I have seen destroyed by drink and harlots.

--William Butler Yeats

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Ok lemme guess before reading the article.

It’s gonna say we are bitter, losers that can’t get women and are mad about it, and need to grow up a pair.

After reading

I WAS RIGHT. They use circle-jerk arguments to validate their already shoddy reasoning. They also completely ignore that women are a problem and pretend that “MGTOW has shortcomings because they don’t want to improve their lives and are lazy”

But they know the only difference is that we don’t bow to women, and they can’t stand to see people not bowing to their little demi-gods. So they have to make up ad-hominem attacks that could be used to describe even NON-MGTOWs.

Also the recurring theme in these articles is that the writer always takes a “better them thou” attitude. Oh course, since they are PUA, what does one expect.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

One comment said. Women marry players! So those are the guys saying o.k. to a cuckold. Well that’s your future.

Lol, first, that’s nothing to be proud about, second, most the players, either have std, mainly herpes, or broke and living paycheck to paycheck.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[SamsquanchParticipant 4226]

As someone who is in the Risk Management industry, I can’t justify signing a marriage contract. Once emotions are taken out, you are left with the logic that if the woman breaks the contract, she can still benefit financially.

I enrolled back in school and have seen my sales numbers become more steady since I found MGTOW. My focus has been on school and work, not women, and I can honestly say that I’ve been happier over the last few months. I’ve actually been able to focus more now that I’m not worried about women, or trying to figure out their cryptic messages.

Whatever works for you, do it. The moron who wrote the article sounds like he’s trying to get women on his side for shaming MGTOW.

[The_Mad_PirateParticipant 1278]

Reading your comments , I am now starting to get why they might be trying yo shame MGTOW …. MONEY !.

Take a look at Alexa ratings :

All and all , ROK ship is sinking. Yeah , they migth still have a higher rank than , say MGTOW.com , but while MGTOW.com is gaining users and raising above in the ratings, ROK is falling apart like a house of cards.

I can only make one conclusion : they are desperate , they are scared , because their bussines is slipping away and they know it.

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

If you read the comments, there is a post from a guy named Roosh. Read it.

Yeah, i saw it and i think he’s just trying to get a rise out of us.

Roosh will forever and always be known as a rape advocate to the majority of the population. Nobody gives two f~~~s about him or his opinions outside of ROK followers, who have also now been branded rape advocates.

The Red Pill sub reddit has way more intelligent and insightful commenting members than anything on that puddle of p~~~ ROK website has ever published. Rapey Roosh got p~~~y with them too because he wanted to monetise The Red Pill for himself. The greedy f~~~.

[AttonParticipant]

First, you must understand why MGTOW exists and what bring these men together. MGTOW may have started with the right intent of defying the gynocentric system that exploits men, but it has quickly turned into a congregation of young men who come together to validate each other’s bitterness and frustration. Instead of doing anything to improve their lives, the majority of MGTOW feel the need to attack anyone who suggests self-improvement because it reminds them of their own lack of effort

Self improvement and advancement for men is not a choice. MGTOW can’t decide that for men because the answer is always yes, improve or suffer that is a reality for men. There is no real safety net for men.

Many of these men have a twisted worldview where all relationship between men and women are either slavery through marriage or a charade by men dressed like clowns who are desperate for sex.

I base my view off family law and family law is warped. Frankly Marriage is nothing but exploitation, the benefit is one sided.

All things considered, MGTOW, ROK, and other men’s groups have more things in common than the differences. We all recognize the disease that is feminism and we are all faced with the new realities that modern society has to offer for men. The main difference really comes down to mentality.

I actually consider feminism to be a symptom rather than a cause. The cause in my view is the religion of gynocentrism I see feminism as the church.

The best thing you can do for yourself is to strive for tangible results rather than moping about how bad the system is. We already all know what a raw deal marriage can be in the West, there’s no point rehashing that fact over and over again once you are already aware of it. What matters is what you’re willing to do in response.

The only thing a man can do in response and that is vote with his feet. Don’t marry and don’t cohabit, understand and evaluate. That is my response non cooperation and defensive decision making.

travel and meet women who are not poisoned by feminism.

The failure of the Men’s Rights movement was the very presumption above. Women are not stupid they know full well how to play the game of life. Women where never poisoned by the evil boogie man that is feminism. The women who f~~~ men over and drain them financially and emotionally are not feminsts. The average women is honestly more dangerous to a man that a feminist. You know full well a feminist is bat s~~~ insane the average Jane is far harder to read. The NAWALT certainly is a real thing and by a Miracle you might just find one. However you play a dangerous game with these kind of things since a NAWALT can easily turn into an insufferable bitch. Then things only get worse due to the worldwide religion of gynocentrism, say goodbye to your kids and resources.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[RyshParticipant 134]

Oh yeah, the PUAs. They claim “outcome independence”, and yet they “approach” hundreds, if not thousands of women. Their thoughts are not at all “dominant”, they are totally focused on how to “successfully” jump through the hoops.

Oh, and on selling that kind of strategy to men who are willing to cash out. Well MGTOW aren’t, and if the message spreads, the PU business will be dead. Of course, they will denounce MGTWOW.

I’ve been reading their so-called “field reports”. Guys, at even half of such a “successful” evening, I would have been so p~~~ed off by all the BS that I would not even have been up for sex. F~~~ that s~~~.

These pussy-yearning dogs will do everything, including wasting their life-time talking to women that have nothing to offer except their c~~~. You know, like in “open your mouth for anything else than a BJ makes me vomit”. Oh yeah, dropping into that kind of s~~~ is, of course, oh-so-dominant.

Important message to the PUAs: PU is a numbers’ game. That in itself means that PUAs are NOT alphas, they are NOT being desired. The men they want to be like do not “approach” women, let alone hundreds of them. They are being approached. PUAs would like to be like that, but they aren’t. The very fact that they need to “approach”, as PUAs term it, means that they are worthless s~~~ by their own criteria.

So what? I could have been doing a lot of “approaches”. Yeah, wasted lifetime full of womens’ s~~~ty talk. Alternatively, I can do cool stuff in my leisure time, loosely related to my job in IT. Guess what of the two things will keep me interesting for employers in a domain where aged 40 years counts as old.

Fine, PUAs, you got your “fun” with some stupid c~~~s. I got my s~~~ together and my future built. You know the tale of the ant and the cricket? I’ve always been siding the ant giving a cold shoulder.

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