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Yeah the speed and level of conspiracy theory on mgtow.com I find very disappointing.
I think I understand why there is going to be more conspiracy theory here. Because society and the system output all of this bulls~~~ about women and marriage to get men to sacrifice themselves and get married and have children, then getting divorce raped in the courts.
There is a not a lot of trust of the powers that be and society in MGTOW, considering how many have been f~~~ed over by believing in the lies of the powers that be and society.
It’s not because of MGTOW it’s the track record of federal government willing to kill innocent people to push gun control . Fast and Furious= intentionally giving assault rifles to Mexican drug cartels so they can kill border agents, in order to push gun control. To not be skeptical is to not be rational.
80 pounds of 5.56 ammo in luggage would be about 3,000 rounds, so it is not that hard to lug a substantial amount of ammo into a room, in several trips over a few days.
And he could have had locked suitcases.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Yeah the speed and level of conspiracy theory on mgtow.com I find very disappointing.
I think I understand why there is going to be more conspiracy theory here. Because society and the system output all of this bulls~~~ about women and marriage to get men to sacrifice themselves and get married and have children, then getting divorce raped in the courts.
There is a not a lot of trust of the powers that be and society in MGTOW, considering how many have been f~~~ed over by believing in the lies of the powers that be and society.
It’s not because of MGTOW it’s the track record of federal government willing to kill innocent people to push gun control . Fast and Furious= intentionally giving assault rifles to Mexican drug cartels so they can kill border agents, in order to push gun control. To not be skeptical is to not be rational.
Oh, I am skeptical. It all sounds too convenient.
One of the things I considered several years ago was the likelihood of a push to flip sections of the Pro-Security wing of the conservatives to Anti-Gun.
TPTB are very thorough. For globalism, they flipped conservatives first, pushing it in the Reagan Era with fears of a “trade war”. Then they moved on the Democrats ushering in pro-globalists like the Clintons.
TPTB have most of the liberal/Democrats against the 2nd amendment. This could be the start of a push to flip security conservatives into supporting more police state.
After all, we got the Patriot Act under a Republican administration, and then a Democratic administration expands the police state with NDAA 2012.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
TPTB are also very good at divide and conquer.
The Hispanic “race” was invented to divide Caucasians against each other. The Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street people were redirected by the establishment because they fear nationalist and anti-globalist forces joining forces against them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon%27s_Rebellion in 1676 lead to the Virginia Slave Codes of 1705 because TPTB didn’t want black slaves joining forces with poor whites again.
The same dynamics are still at play. Divide and conquer. Multiculturalism is being pushed as part of this strategy:
In research, Robert Putnam found that “We hunker down. We act like turtles. The effect of diversity is worse than had been imagined. And it’s not just that we don’t trust people who are not like us. In diverse communities, we don’t trust people who do look like us.”
People turtle up in multiculturalist societies, exacerbating the trend of isolation in urban communities. Increased urbanization, more multiculturalism, with increased isolation of people spending most of the time on the Internet will result in a handful of entities like Google controlling the flow of information to isolated millions.
TPTB are working towards full realization of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Engineering_of_Consent (“Under modern conditions of political advertising and manipulation, it has become possible to talk of the engineering of consent by an elite of experts and professional politicians. Consent that is thus engineered is difficult to distinguish in any fundamental way from the consent that supports modern totalitarian governments. Were the manipulated voter to become the normal voter, the government he supports could hardly be said to rest on his consent in any traditional sense of that word.”)
Products of an educational system based on the Fichte principles of “snow is black” are particular vulnerable to the engineering of consent:
“Education should aim at destroying free will so that after pupils are thus schooled they will be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting otherwise than as their school masters would have wished … The social psychologist of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for more than one generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen.” (Johann Gottlieb Fichte, 1810)We are fully achieving what Oswald Spengler said 100 years ago in “Decline of the West” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Decline_of_the_West#Democracy.2C_media.2C_and_money
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Hotel staff was not involved.
And, really, Venom.
(Quote below)
‘The cleaning crew said they were in that room an hour before and didn’t see anything out of the ordinary.’
THERE IT IS. RIGHT THERE FOLKS.
Ok. Now. The hotel ‘cleaning staff’ reported being in the room an hour before.
Wow.
Shooting started at 10:08pm.
And hour before would be 9:08pm
Now. I’ve stayed in alot of hotels over the course of my life.
Does anyone really believe that cleaning staff were really in a room at a hotel at 9:08pm.
Pleeeeeez. Just stop already.
Where is the security camera footage of this guy hauling in luggage and/or bags of rifles and ammunition into the hotel in the four days prior. Come on.
What did he do. Pull up in a Suburban and when a bag helper asked if he could help, did he just say ‘No thanks. I’ve got this’ Then grab one of those luggage carts, start loading it up and push it to an elevator and go to his room.
And nobody noticed?
Maybe even multiple trips. All of which would have been recorded on hotel security cameras.
that is actually a really good point about the cleaners. I have been on cruise ships before and they make your cabin into a sleeping room when you go to dinner(so would be around that time) but that doesn’t happen in hotels and I find it highly, highly unlikely that they would be anywhere near someone’s room in a hotel at 9pm
After 12 hours, FBI certain he has no ties to ISIS
After 12 months, FBI still unsure if Trump has ties to Russia
Anonymous6After 12 hours, FBI certain he has no ties to ISIS
After 12 months, FBI still unsure if Trump has ties to Russia
ISIS doesn’t take credit for stuff they didn’t do. They usually tell the truth about stuff like this. I still think there were more than one shooter. And we all know Trump has no ties to Russia because if he did, Obama would have leaked it. They don’t have anything on the guy, and it has to be frustrating.
It’s too early to really know all that went down. There are way to many open questions. So many things that don’t make sense.
And if there were multiple shooters, if it was some sort of government inside job, who exactly were they able to cover their tracks so well? I’d think with a job this big and this visible, you’d have to have a lot of people involved, keeping their mouth shut. No one talks? How of you keep the people on the 4th floor from talking? How do you get the hotel to stay quite? How do you keep the police from figuring out what you don’t want them to make public?
I’m not saying it isn’t bigger then it looks, but it only brings more questions into play that can’t be answered.
Ok. Then do it.
Some additional thoughts….
One, is it possible that the second set of gunfire could be some sort of echo effect?
Two, what are the chances that the audio on the video was doctored to make it sound like their were multiple shooters?
Not saying there is anything definite…
Ok. Then do it.
I am definitely thinking false flag now
It’s too early to really know all that went down. There are way to many open questions. So many things that don’t make sense.
And if there were multiple shooters, if it was some sort of government inside job, who exactly were they able to cover their tracks so well? I’d think with a job this big and this visible, you’d have to have a lot of people involved, keeping their mouth shut. No one talks? How of you keep the people on the 4th floor from talking? How do you get the hotel to stay quite? How do you keep the police from figuring out what you don’t want them to make public?
I’m not saying it isn’t bigger then it looks, but it only brings more questions into play that can’t be answered.
All you need to do is turn off surveillance camera in room hallway that would show real shooters exiting after killing Paddock. Mandalay security may ask WTF, but there are dozens of legit excuses a higher authority could give them to ignore that camera going off. Cops took over an hour to get to his room, giving them plenty of time to exit. Its really not as hard as everyone is making out. In fact, if anything, the people insisting on the government narrative are the ones who have many questions to be answered:
-how do FBI know he has no ties to ISIS so quickly before assessing fully all of evidence?
-how do FBI know he was sole shooter so quickly before assessing ballistic evidence?
-why is his foreign roommate/girlfriend of no interest and then suddenly is of interest, when everyone asks “why is she of no interest to you”?
-why does his own brother say he’s not into guns, yet somehow he has 23 guns in a hotel room?
-how does 64 year old retired accountant have the skills to simultaneously shoot 2 automatic guns (audible in video), including the skill to know the spatial drop on 7.62?
-how does 64 year old retired accountant get 23 guns up into a room on his own, without any staff being even suspicious? and where is video? why hide that???
-how does cleaning staff who are in room 1 hour before shooting not see 23 guns?
-why is hispanic lady at concert telling people 45 minutes before shooting “you’re all going to die”? causing 21 year old to flee concert before the shooting? telling media it was 5’5″ hispanic woman and man = cleaning crew?
-why does this all coincidentally occur right after OJ released, when all media are in Nevada?
-why is there apparent gun fire on 4th floor?
-why even have 2 windows spaced apart in 2 rooms if you’re one guy? Just break out one big window and mount 2 guns next to each other
-why is there 2 simultaneous guns firing? one is clearly audible at faster pace and closer in a video, whereas another is audible at slower pace and more distant in videoIf there were shots from the 4th floor – where are the broken windows? The broken windows on 32 were obvious.
Windows in a building that that are not wooden double-hungs that can be opened and closed.
This point should be an easy one to disprove.
If there were shots from the 4th floor – where are the broken windows? The broken windows on 32 were obvious.
Windows in a building that that are not wooden double-hungs that can be opened and closed.
This point should be an easy one to disprove.
It's crazy as f~~~ on the 1st of the month
Posted by Juan Mejia on Sunday, October 1, 2017
Ok yes it looks like flash on 4th floor isn’t shooter. This video shows flash continues when there is NO shooting. And yes I agree on no broken window on 4th. Still a lot of unanswered questions though. I’m still open to him being the shooter but these questions so far don’t add up.
64 year old with no military training
Would the room not have been full of smoke
Doesn’t it take some stamina to operate a weapon like than for a prolonged period of time
how far from the concert was the hotel?Sounds about as believable as the official 9/11 story.
http://www.leavemeansleave.eu
I am not dismissing the possibility of multiple shooters.
Agreed. Why were two windows broken? Makes no sense.
Objective if multiple shooters: maximize casualties to push semi-auto ban. By purposely killing white conservatives, the intent would be to sway many on far right to pro gun control. Supreme Court has said they may ban semi-autos depending on whether they are “in common use”. The goal would either be:
(1) put pressure on congress to ban all but handguns, making far easier for New World Government (only Switzerland and USA citizens still have gun ownership rights)
(2) Supreme Court banning all but handguns
Americans own over 80 Million guns and trillion in ammo. Good luck trying to take those guns away.
This has all the makings of a Soros funded false flag.
And it is looking that Soros is going to get his damned civil war. Murder the American people will a false flag and punish the American people to the point of civil war.
We have Inforwars saying do not reply to these violent acts. The logic of that is do not do anything until the terrorists kill everyone. But, do something the government will kill everyone. Haven’t you figured out the terrorists and government are one in the same.
The terrorist and the government take turns harming the innocent American people until the American people snap, then the nukes fly and WE ALL DIE!
They do not have the manpower to disarm the American people. So any government actions against the American people will likely end with nuclear weapons being used against the American people.
The good news President Trump likely sees through this false flag bulls~~~. Not sure what he can do. But, with Soros minions in government seeking to removed President Trump from office, the question is not if a civil war will start. But, when a civil war will start.
Haven’t you figured out the terrorists and government are one in the same.
Correct and the UN is about a new world order.
They want an excuse to instigate martial law in America.
Infowars is not really alternative media-TRump is on teh same side as soros.
It is all the same KAbal.
http://www.leavemeansleave.eu
Correct and the UN is about a new world order.
They want an excuse to instigate martial law in America.
But, since they cannot disarm the American people, they want to have the U.S. start a nuclear war to destroy the American people.
Infowars is not really alternative media-TRump is on teh same side as soros.
No. There are multiple groups vying for power.
Trying to disarm the American people is a quick way to start a war in the U.S. The gun owners do not trust the media, government, nor foreign groups. The gun owners see the bulls~~~ about the Vegas attack and that no matter what happens the globalists will always seek to use any event to hurt them.
Anonymous6Objective if multiple shooters: maximize casualties to push semi-auto ban. By purposely killing white conservatives, the intent would be to sway many on far right to pro gun control. Supreme Court has said they may ban semi-autos depending on whether they are “in common use”. The goal would either be:
(1) put pressure on congress to ban all but handguns, making far easier for New World Government (only Switzerland and USA citizens still have gun ownership rights)
(2) Supreme Court banning all but handguns
Americans own over 80 Million guns and trillion in ammo. Good luck trying to take those guns away.
This has all the makings of a Soros funded false flag.
And it is looking that Soros is going to get his damned civil war. Murder the American people will a false flag and punish the American people to the point of civil war.
We have Inforwars saying do not reply to these violent acts. The logic of that is do not do anything until the terrorists kill everyone. But, do something the government will kill everyone. Haven’t you figured out the terrorists and government are one in the same.
The terrorist and the government take turns harming the innocent American people until the American people snap, then the nukes fly and WE ALL DIE!
They do not have the manpower to disarm the American people. So any government actions against the American people will likely end with nuclear weapons used against the American people.
The good news President Trump likely sees through this false flag bulls~~~. Not sure what he can do. But, with Soros minions in government seeking to removed President Trump from office, the question is not if a civil war will start. But, when a civil war will start.
And remember which side has all the guns. A civil War wont go well for the establishment. I know people who make their own ammo and stockpile it. That side that will win, won’t be the side that is worried about gender and identity. Plus, how would a war even be fought on US Soil. Who are the leaders of the resistance? Will we have matching uniforms? Will the gun manufacturers get rich from this war, if so, i’ll go live where they are hiding at. I just don’t see a civil war happening.
I think Faust is on target. The more I think about it the more false flag it appears to me. Clue: The guy was a self described “gambler”. And if there is one thing gamblers hate—it is to lose. yet I suppose to buy the “suicide” scenario with no motive? Not happening.
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