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SupremeGentleman 4 years, 9 months ago.
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Dear Sirs,
how to start? 34 year Gentleman here from Europe!
I am very shocked and blessed to come to this forum or the entire MGTOW topic! Though I always was unique and special, I sometimes thought I am strange! But no! There are many men like me, who just don’t want to get stressed by idiots, females and situations where you have no control!
I was lurking since 1 month on everything related MGTOW! Then I decided to register on the best MGTOW forum! I am very interested in quality answers!
To me: I have a fiancee. I lost my job, but I am still very confident that everything will be good!
But I have an issue with my fiancee. She is actually a good person, but after having so many relationships and ONS, I can say, all women are the same! They try to make you a sissy-cat, when before you were a TIGER!
They want to change you! Do this, do that!!! And personally I am a real man! I never say to my friends or wife, to change! Live and let live is my credo! For example today. My GF wanted me, to go to cut my hair since 1 week! She nearly called me everyday: “Did you went to the hairdresser today?” NO! So nearly everyday we argue about that!
I hate it, when she take the mother-role. Treating me like a kid! I am 34 years old! I am a man!
Also, the topic marriage is huge! I read so much about people getting divorced, because of many reason! I never was buying to the concept of marrying! Why?
So bassically you (as a man of course) you collect nearly 15,000.00 to 20,000.00 Bucks for a night? To satisfy 100 or 200 people you actually don’t like, buy food, music, a ring, etc.???? What for ????
I love to invest this money into a business! Maybe a car! Or paying my students debt off!
I was never so openly! I am introverted! Me, as a man, I can’t speak to anyone with my problems. Women or society always indoctrinated us , to be “a man” and never complain! So after lurking here and on reddit, I couldn’t trust my eyes! I am here saying you, I might need help!
I am very cool and kind guy. But when people play with me or treat me like a kid, I am someone to avoid! I was depressed lately because all of this! GF wants a marriage! I lost my job! I have a small amount of student loan I am paying off! I want to do sport!
I have goals also! I want to loose some weight and go to the gym! After reading many threads I AM actually happy with my apartment! I can’t imagine to live with a woman!
I come inside and I start to fart, I throw my stuff around and watch my TV! With a woman this is impossible! I need my freedom!!! I do have my lovely car! So I ride around my town, which is like therapy. LOL.
I see this: I want to pay off my student loan, and want to collect as much money as I can! I am dreaming of retiring early. But GF takes my entire capacities!!! I must call everyday and I am tired. Tired of listening to her stories! Tired of inventing interesting stories! because I don’t have a story to tell. Not on a daily basis!
I am a wolf! I love being alone! After suffering from a depression 6 years ago , I am very stable and very positive person! I love f~~~ing puss! But nowadays???? I know what women are capable of! I know how they think and work! I DON’T need this đ
When a puss comes with her boobs and vagina, saying: “Look, give me attention guys!” I am the one, who looks elsewhere! I never give women the attention! And I f~~~ing hate it, to start flirting with women! Because why is it always the men who start? The puss always can give you a “F~~~ off!”. They can choose! But this will be over, because more and more men, are waking up! That’s why I am here.
I have enough seriously! I am fascinated by the alternative by the name of MGTOW!!!! With 34 I might have found the solution! I want to travel, discover the world, be a rockstar again!
I am sorry gents, if my first thread is a long and contain some faults! But I respect you and I typed this as of right now! No fake or corrections!
I hope to get some feedback on me and some tips maybe!
I am very interested in a quality exchange here!
Best Regards
SupremeGentleman!Hmm, no feedback guys? đ
welcome supreme’
feedback here is not usually immediate. when you write a post, it goes to a wall (here) that everyone can see if they choose to come and read this wall. But there are many walls here, and not everyone is able to be here to read posts on every wall immediately when they go up. Your post will stay up and can be read many days or weeks later. If you check the box at the bottom of the post you write, anytime someone writes a response to that post under your original post, you will get an email of the response to the email address you used when you signed up.Even though I am not responding immediately to your post, I will say welcome to mgtow. From reading your post, it seems that you have come to the right place. Maybe the first thing that we can remind you of here is that you do not OWE anyone a marriage to you. Also, you are not strange. There are many of us like you, and the number is growing. Right now, in the United States, the number of young men who are choosing not to marry is at a record high. The number of people as a fraction of the total population who are single is at a 100 year record low.
Women get many advantages from getting married, and many women have abused these advantages so much that very few men are left who are still willing to get married to them. They are not all mgtow members here, but they are making the mgtow choices.
You’re now in a club with many members…
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
Dear Sir BrainPilot!
Thank you very much for your kind answer! I wanted to delete my account, being afraid that I posted openly about my situation, and no one answers!
But you saved me! Thanks for understanding me! I was always certain about my goals. But this MGTOW thing is something that shatters my life! In a positive way!
I see things different now! Don’t get me wrong! I do not hate women! I actually love pussy, boobs and the entire package! But I am not okay with the “road to sex” thing! Why the hassle, when you can it by an escort service? (Which I always critized)! But now, I would say yes.
Last year I was so certain! She pushed me into that whole thing! Bought a diamond ring, and saving money, etc. But I read MGTOW last month, and I know every trend in the world. But not this one! I read many articles and said WTF? This website changed my perspective! I watched many youtube videos! I saw many men like !!
Thats the reason I am willing to write here, hoping for a quality exchange!
The shocking thing is: I dream about being without her, just to persue my goals!!! Like saving money for myself! Buying an SUV, travelling, making photos and making my own apps & business! Just my resources and NOT giving it all away to her, or other energy vampires!!!!
Unfortunately a friend will marry in the summer, after I told him last year that I found the love of my life and I will do it too! Well, it is his choice. But alo he changed a lot! Woman command him. He is not the same anymore!
I just feel so good being on my own! You can’t imagine! MY time, choices! I am very very excited about this whole experience which I will give it a try!
It sounds like you were thinking and feeling like a mgtow before you knew there is a mgtow.com website, and many other men like yourself. It is very common for new members here to say similar things to what you said. Mainly, new members will often say that they always knew that marriage was a bad choice for them, but that they were not aware that anyone else believed the same thing and so thought that they were the only one, or that they were strange, or defective, or mistaken in some way.
Now that you are here, read through the forum posts of other walls about other topics and make some posts of your own. As you do this, you will start to have exchanges of ideas with other members here about all the topics you choose to post about, and soon you will recognize the names of other members you exchange with on the walls. You can also start a topic of your own if you have an idea for one that no one has started a post for yet.
As for your girlfriend, just remember that YOU DO NOT OWE her a marriage. You do not OWE that to anyone else either.
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
Pheeew! You are just breaking my entire world here, fine Sir!!!!
I never saw a logic behind marriage! Why wasting so much amount of money??? Anyway! I will do post and even make some threads, since you gave me some security here! Hope I can learn and give also some value here, as a supreme gentleman! LOL
I must get over this “YOU don’t OWE her a marriage”, since this was her biggest dream! MGTOW and this? Just WOW! It’s like I have seen a UFO, Alien gave me head, went back to Mars and there no one I can tell this story!!!
Thank you Sir! Will check the threads! +1
‘her biggest dream’
A lot of Cinderella’s out there!
Other than a fantasy concocted inside a woman’s head, other than securing her future in case of break-up, I just don’t understand the concept of Marriage.
I tell guys all the time, what’s the point of marriage, If you like a woman you are going to stay and be happy, if you grow to hate her, you are going to leave, married or not.
And if the relationship breaks down, would you rather be married, or not married? Just another level of bulls~~~ to deal with before your on the road to freedom.
I see guys getting into marriage as weak, I just do, and I always did.
I was a mgtow, before I even knew about mgtow, except for the LTR, but I never got married at least.
You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.
@supremegentleman Welcome to MGTOW buddy. The owners of this site have built a great forum and there are some real stand up guys here.
E=MC² Bitch
1. Diamond ring is for her to compare with her friends. You don’t use it, she doesn’t hold it to your face, it is actually worth nothing. DeBeers artificially inflates prices by holding other diamonds from the market.
2. There was a cute comic about a man who listened to his fiance about what she wanted, “Shave beard off.” “Get haircut”. Then he receives dear John letter. Â “Dear John, I feel like I don’t know you anymore.” Â She leaves him, pretty funny.
3. Women try to turn you into pussycat, because they don’t want other women noticing your tiger. She down sizes your alpha traits to make you less of a target. In doing so, she will eventually lose interest in you herself without realizing it, by your enabling of her controlling ways.
4. Welcome to MGTOW you are not alone.
5. I’m not sure what marriage laws are where you live, but in America women gets everything. Man gets freedom back, which is something had before he met women. In reality, woman comes out with stuff, man is set back to start!
6. Do not conform, be a maverick. Get a vasectomy, do not tell any woman. Endless women will sit on your c~~~ til end of days.
7. Women are not a catch, man is catch. You are the main value. Remember this.
8. Women use power of vagina, remove that control and women become powerless and desperate.
9. That’s all I have for now. Stay strong.
Wow! Gentlemen!
I am waking up the more I read! It might be dangerous being here! But I can’t get off reading your post!
Again, she is a great person with IQ and character! But hell, I even stopped drinking some alcohol, or smoking like a man a cigarette! Being free like I used to be! I was a rebel before I met her. I learned a lot good things thanks to her! But I am feeling like a fake, in front of her! Because this is not the real me!
I know life is too short to be a pussycat! I want to do what I want whenever I want! I feel like going to the gym again, just for me! Kill my depressions! Having fun again in life, calling my buddys, hell just living the life on my own terms!
I cant pay for marriage, because I need to fix my life first! Job, student debt, etc! I think I made a mistake! I hope I won’t regret thinking like that! I tell you the truth, and I am not true to her! Strange right?
But you will understand! If I would tell her what I feel, she would cry and start the typical women tactics! Giving me a bad feeling! But I have enough! Today I didn’t called her! I even didn’t took her call, and it feels so great NOT exchanging and hearing her BS of the day! Because I feel better like this!
Exchanging with you feels so good! Didn’t knew that there exactly same MEN like me! We are honest, kind and brave men! I have enough being pushed by feminists/woman! Â Proud men here!
Also, I can’t imagine having a family and kids! Me??? Jesus, I want to do tons of stuff! Don’t have force or time or money to take care of stupid kids. While wiping the scat of the babies diaper, I could have been free and skydive somewhere or start my business! You know what I mean? I can pull the trigger still, by saying “adios” to my fiancee. It might be the best solution for both! So she can pursue her dream and get a potential candidate! I know, I don’t want marriage! I don’t want to spend one dime into a concept, that doesn’t fit into my philosophy!
Again, gentlemen! You guys are crazy and your posts/ideas are amazing!!!!
Anonymous42It might be dangerous being here!
@SupremeGentlemen, It’ only DANGEROUS to be subjected to the narcissistic actions and intentions of today’s modern crackpot women….
It looks like you had your fill of red pills. Myself, I love the f~~~in things! I eat so many I s~~~ red, with millions of empty pill capsules…..
It might be dangerous being here!
@SupremeGentlemen, Itâ only DANGEROUS to be subjected to the narcissistic actions and intentions of todayâs modern crackpot womenâŚ.
Indeed! May I ask, fine Sir!
What do you do, when you are in the mood for pussy? Do you out and game? Or watch an “adult clip” on the internet? What do you do?
I am really thinking about starting a new life on my terms, with the help of MGTOW!! You can’t believe how much better I feel already! I want to be free! Being my own master!
I am learning! Again! I want to learn your tactics about every aspect of life!
Anonymous42The question is, what do you do? The answer is whatever the f~~~ you want! Every man is unique and different, it’s all those c~~~s that are the same, they’re like chickens, you can’t tell one from another, so do whatever you feel is right for YOU!
Guys lead themselves just fine, it’s when someone else is leading we have a problem, the natural man is meant to be free! Anything else is synthetic…..
Indeed! May I ask, fine Sir! What do you do, when you are in the mood for pussy? Do you out and game? Or watch an âadult clipâ on the internet? What do you do? I am really thinking about starting a new life on my terms, with the help of MGTOW!! You canât believe how much better I feel already! I want to be free! Being my own master! I am learning! Again! I want to learn your tactics about every aspect of life!
I have GF I do not live with. I treat her with respect so long as she treats me with respect. I put up with ZERO bulls~~~ and mind games. However, I am human and can show affection (cuddling, compliments etc.). It is important to always keep your OWN path available.
She does not tell me when to come over, she asks.
Likewise, I do not make unreasonable demands of her.
She does not command me, she asks politely. I catch her making demands I stare her down, she shrinks, changes her tone and asks nicely, and with a please (Depending on what it is, I still may say no). It is understood that I am not the marrying type. I am upfront with her about it.
This GF and I have lots of sex. Several times a week. When we cannot, I watch porn (Not in front of her, because if we’re not having sex, I’m not driving over there. That is the trade off for driving 30mins to see her and she knows it).
Feminists are the enemy, not women. Although MOST women share an agenda to strip you of your freedoms slowly and use you up. Which is why it is best to keep relationships with GFs short.
Enjoy your stay.
any option that works for you is fair game. Some mgtow’s play the pick up game. Some younger ones go for older cougar type women. Some use porn’. Some older ones go for younger gold diggers (temporarily of course). Some mgtows hire professionals. Others go for the desperate single mothers on internet dating sites.
It’s really up to you. Of course, none of these is a perfect solution. But any of them is better than signing the marriage contract and turning over ownership of yourself to the owner of vagina. Try them all and see which one(s) you like best.
You’re a free man now, so you can do whatever you want. And since you are not going to be unloading half your cash on someone who may or may not choose to have sex with you, you will have more cash available for yourself, for anything else you want, or to pursue any of the options above as much, or as little as you like.
You don’t need permission or advice from anyone. Try them all..
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
Welcome SupremeGentleman
So much truth in this thread already, all I can say is YES!
Supreme, have you ever been married before? Also how old is your fiance?
[url url=http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2d6337/i_was_divorce_raped_dont_be_me] I'm paying her 25% of my salary over the next eight years. I had to pay my lawyer, her lawyer, 50% of all my retirement funds and give her another few thousand dollars to make her go away. It cost me $20 to get married and will cost me over $220,000 to get divorced. [/url]
You’re not gonna marry her are you?
Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.
Years ago I read how a fisherman “caught” a competitive swimmer in a pool with a minimum pound test line. He never snapped the line, just wore the swimmer out. SHE’s exercising care to not snap the line…til she nets you into the boat and the last thing you see is the blade accelerating toward your neck.  SHE by being gentle, is currently wearing you down. When it’s too late, well
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
SupremeGentleman,
Don’t get married. Don’t do it. It doesn’t really matter what country you’re in, it’s all a varying degree of “you’re f~~~ed”. (Sweden probably being the worst of anywhere)
You don’t have to explain to us that you don’t hate women. Most of us feel exactly the same way. Don’t mistake our brash realism for misogyny. You’re just not obligated to get married in order to accomplish what you want to achieve in life- and most men figure out too late that marriage is often the biggest hurdle to a man’s happiness.
You know what? I love sharks. I’m absolutely fascinated by all the different species and how they’ve evolved and what they do. I’ve swam with sharks and dove with some too, but I’ve learned to tell the difference between the ocean puppies and the apex predators. When what you thought was a cute little nurse shark gets closer and it’s actually a 20ft Great White, you get. the f~~~. out. of. the. water. stat. -and for the most part, regardless of species, they all have the potential to bite you and swim away with a body part that you can’t replace. What I’ll never do is give a shark my SCUBA gear and trust it to keep me alive and breathing for the rest of my natural life. Not even for a tax break. That would be stupid, right?
Youâre not gonna marry her are you?
Not as of right now, Sir.
Welcome SupremeGentleman So much truth in this thread already, all I can say is YES! Supreme, have you ever been married before? Also how old is your fiance?
Thanks for the welcome. And @all! Great contributions! Never thought about that you guys are “understanding” me. I never thought also, that there many “soulmates” out there. I really thought I am a strange one, since even my parents or friends are seeing me as a “misfit” (in a kind way).
No Sir! Never been married! She has my same age.
She is actually a good person! Intelligent, funny, etc. But I feel like I need to be free! It is not her fault. I just am not sold to the entire marriage concept! It just don’t make sense to me. When I never did things without sense. It is not my lifestyle! Imagine what you can do with the amount of money!
I know myself! When you invite the many people, and the party starts, I see the little details! People are complained, maybe talking trash about the marriage, me or anything! Envy, etc. Then they eat like pigs. And 20,000.00 bucks doen the flush!
While I could pay my student loan off with that, or invest or start my business! I think we call that cognitive dissonances! I do have that in this case.
hope I don’t look like a wuss, by writing this! But I feel that this is a quality forum! Without trolls or young people, saying stuff they never experienced before.
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