Just got out of a relationship.

[The_YoungParticipant 1073]

..Literally an hour ago.

I knew it was coming for a long time, I’ve been anticipating it. Now that I’ve finally done it, seeing her cry and how it made her feel, it f~~~ing hurts. I’m crying myself from the shock. I loved this girl. I want to be able to let her go, but I’m afraid that I’ll miss her. I know she isn’t the right one for me. I do not want her to be the mother of my children. But I know something like remembering her laugh or the smell of perfume will bring back memories that I want back. But its a f~~~ing trap.

Aside from that..

Since around the age of 11 or 12, I’ve helplessly measured my self worth on what women think of me. My first rejection was at this age, and to think about it now makes me f~~~ing laugh, but its a funny reminder that I do not take rejection lightly. I think the only reason I’ve ever wanted girls is because I COULDN’T HAVE THEM.

I’m 20, and after discovering this site, it’s started to change my way of thinking. Whether this will be challenge in a week or so after staying single…It better not. I know a woman’s opinion of me is bulls~~~, or anyone’s for that matter. F~~~. That.

A lot of my confidence came from how well I’m representing what society wants men to be. They want men to get married, provide, be smart and rich, and have children, and have happy wives. It’s a near impossibility.

Day after day, people tell me “Do not ever get married.” I ignored it. Surely they must have problems because he has a small penis or has anger problems. No. Women. Are. F~~~ED.

..And I’m not dealing with the bulls~~~ I’ve been put through for the rest of my life. Everything I’ve ever done, every piece of self improvement, every accomplishment I’ve made, has been made in the hopes that it got me one step closer to experiencing love, relationships, and sex, the things that I’ve never had. Getting a full time career, joining a crossfit league, joining the gym, joining a yoga studio, going to night clubs and bars, etc. It’s all been driven by low self esteem, which is caused by a deeply rooted, mental SMOKESCREEN of female disapproval.

For the past two weeks, I’ve been working at P90X, the home workout DVD’s. I want to get my six pack back, get lean. Then build from there. Feel good. Not for women, but for my own damn self. I want everything I do to be like that. I want to be free. I want to feel good knowing that its okay to be single, knowing that its driven by choice, not circumstance.

[Yay men. Boo women.]

Brother, we need to stick together.

[The_YoungParticipant 1073]

By the way, I’m 20 and live in Toronto, which is basically a s~~~hole in terms of s~~~ty female attitude

Brother, we need to stick together.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Welcome home brother.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

F~~~, man, you’re so lucky. I wish I knew about MGTOW when I was 20. F~~~!
Welcome.
By the way – when did you find out about MGTOW and from where?

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Welcome brother. The most important thing you called out in your intro:

The_Young wrote:

Feel good. Not for women, but for my own damn self. I want everything I do to be like that. I want to be free. I want to feel good knowing that its okay to be single, knowing that its driven by choice, not circumstance.

You may have noticed that pursuing relations~~~s with woman didn’t make you happy. Being in relations~~~s didn’t make you happy. But living your own life, according to your own needs & wants – that will make you happy.

You’ve taken an important first step man. Congratulations.

[atlasParticipant 285]

Welcome home.

Something that may help in the future (because I’ve been there, and you’re right, those feelings don’t disappear overnight)… write down the things that made you not want to be with her. The reasons why you know you don’t want her to be the mother of your children, or risk being trapped. When old feelings arise from memories of good times, re-read these reasons why you separated. It may inject some much needed perspective into your situation at that time.

“We are on strike, we, the men of the mind. We are on strike against self-immolation. We are on strike against the creed of unearned rewards and unrewarded duties. We are on strike against the dogma that the pursuit of one's happiness is evil. We are on strike against the doctrine that life is guilt.”

[skiomanParticipant 62]

The Young, you are welcomed here and we are glad you joined us. Like what was said above, I too wished I had a site like this when I was 20. Anyhow, at your age, your biggest challenge will be your smaller head of the two. Its good to have some fun, but youre young yet so please be careful not to get these chicks knocked up. My son will turn 18 in July and finally end a 14 year cycle of child support payments. Aside from taxes, I have never seen a full paycheck in 14 years of hard work. Im going to actually throw a friggin party. But please, dont be me! Take this time to capitalize on your bout of reasoning and make yourself a great man. I have faith in you as so do the others here.

[HitmanParticipant]

Tough at first, then you will find the freedom to have a relationship with yourself.

[The_YoungParticipant 1073]

Thanks for the replies guys. Not sure if I’m doing this quotations thing right, but here goes.

You may have noticed that pursuing relations~~~s with woman didn’t make you happy. Being in relations~~~s didn’t make you happy. But living your own life, according to your own needs & wants – that will make you happy.

This is what I’ve always wanted. To do what makes me happy. My mistake was definitely thinking a woman could fulfill this.

Something that may help in the future (because I’ve been there, and you’re right, those feelings don’t disappear overnight)… write down the things that made you not want to be with her. The reasons why you know you don’t want her to be the mother of your children, or risk being trapped. When old feelings arise from memories of good times, re-read these reasons why you separated. It may inject some much needed perspective into your situation at that time.

Way ahead of you my friend. I made that list right before I broke up with her, and boy is it long. This was already our second attempt at a relation”s~~~”, so it makes me a more comfortable knowing what I’ll be getting into, and that I’ll be ready for it.

The Young, you are welcomed here and we are glad you joined us. Like what was said above, I too wished I had a site like this when I was 20. Anyhow, at your age, your biggest challenge will be your smaller head of the two. Its good to have some fun, but youre young yet so please be careful not to get these chicks knocked up. My son will turn 18 in July and finally end a 14 year cycle of child support payments. Aside from taxes, I have never seen a full paycheck in 14 years of hard work. Im going to actually throw a friggin party. But please, dont be me! Take this time to capitalize on your bout of reasoning and make yourself a great man. I have faith in you as so do the others here.

Being a cheapskate, I will absolutely take heed of this. I plan on seeing escorts maybe once or twice a week (From what I see, MGTOW is pro-prostition anyways). Anything with a risk of pregnancy will be a nono. As for your party, count me the f~~~ in.

Brother, we need to stick together.

[The_YoungParticipant 1073]

F~~~, man, you’re so lucky. I wish I knew about MGTOW when I was 20. F~~~!
Welcome.
By the way – when did you find out about MGTOW and from where?

Thank you! Believe me, it was totally a fluke. I learned it from this site, which has some good f~~~ing wisdom. https://dissention.wordpress.com/2009/12/16/escorts-are-a-better-deal-than-real-women-01/

I’ve been seeing escorts since I was 18, and for the past two years. I lost my virginity to one, and I plan on seeing them for the rest of my life.

Brother, we need to stick together.

[Anonymous 1]

Welcome home. I retyped this reply 3 times. Do the things that will benefit you. Live your life do not let anyone tell you what or what you can not do. Do the unexpected. Alone is not loneliness. Ask the question not asked. You get only one chance at this as far as we know.

No f~~~s given, a Full life Restored and Speed is Freedom of the Soul

[Professor ChaosParticipant 489]

You sound wise beyond your years, brother. Welcome.

I was 21 when I gave up the illusion that women would improve my life.

I was in college and found out my long time girlfriend was f~~~ing my best friend.

I was hearbroken at the time but it gave me a life long lesson of the hypergamous nature of women and helped me learn that women aren’t trustworthy. That saved me many more heartaches.

Man, I wish I was 20 again…so much freedom.

[WarrivarParticipant 44]

Welcome! and you have my sympathies for the pain you are feeling. I can relate to your situation very well as i am currently ending a relationship with my wife (Can’t get divorced without a year long seperation in canada…god damn it.)

I told her that I don’t want children, that i don’t want to work my ass off just to give her a house and kids and a new car. that i WILL not do it and she better get used to being room mates…didn’t go to well. she said “You ruined my life!” when i was totally unaware that I had this incredible talent to control her life. who knew?!

It gets much easier than a break up pre red pill and will pass soon just think…this is your final collision…no more nagging women, no more unrealistic and selfish expectations of you. you sir…are well on your way to no longer giving a f~~~.

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

Welcome brother great start to your life you will not regret it thanks for sharing your story. Lived most of my life in Toronto it has become a s~~~ place for women going the escort route is alright if you always use a condom a lot of them will eventually get a STD at some point. Read a lot of books on stuff you are interested to keep your mind off your ex and working out is great as well. She will try to get back with you all you got to do is be a rock and don’t let her, even if she offers you sex just rub one out and forget about her. Welcome to your new life you will enjoy it forever.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Great into and welcome! You learned quickly the truth about relationships and will only now be stronger with this knowledge. I’m an older man approaching 6 decades of living. I can attest to the fact had I invested more in myself and less in the false image that society casts for men, I’d be a stronger man today. Now after two marriages, years of child support, psychological torture, I’m a fraction of who I was. Learn from the men here. We only have experience and words to lend – but it could be just what the doctor ordered.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Read your terrific intro as soon as you made it Young one.

The_Young wrote:

Since around the age of 11 or 12, I’ve helplessly measured my self worth on what women think of me

We’re socialized to do that, and it doesn’t help when girls actually behave like you should.

Your first paragraph is a situation I also remember well, and I fell for the tears when I shouldn’t have. Being “afraid that you’ll miss her” is just what they want. Just like a wife who starts not letting you spend time with your single buddies anymore…. until one day, “she’s all you got” so that when she leaves, you’re all the more devastated. It’s a very clever pattern I have noticed.

But you are lightyears ahead at only 20. And you have MUCH to look forward to.

Be good to yourself.
And welcome very much.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[The_YoungParticipant 1073]

and she better get used to being room mates…didn’t go to well. she said “You ruined my life!” when i was totally unaware that I had this incredible talent to control her life. who knew?!

Roomates? Jesus…Talk about ripping off the bandaid slowly. Hope you two don’t fall for each other again, that will probably f~~~ s~~~ up.

going the escort route is alright if you always use a condom a lot of them will eventually get a STD at some point. Read a lot of books on stuff you are interested to keep your mind off your ex and working out is great as well. She will try to get back with you all you got to do is be a rock and don’t let her, even if she offers you sex just rub one out and forget about her. Welcome to your new life you will enjoy it forever.

Thanks man. The truth is I’ve already been seeing them for a while, but not for a while. I’m planning on doing it again, but not without some advice from you guys. /forums/topic/unprotected-sex-with-prostitutes/#post-238055

Brother, we need to stick together.

[StereotypeParticipant 33]

Hey Young, welcome here! I too am newly out of a relationship. 23 years in and now 6 months out. Though she is a fine woman (probably an actual NAWALT), I am so much happier without her. As was suggested above, and which you said you did, keep that list handy about why you broke it off. It’s easy to get all emotional and think that it could work again, but just consult your list, and remember all the pain she caused. Tht’s kept me from trying to re-up quite well.

As the blue pill tries to rise up, let the red pill quash it back down again.

You wanna know a secret about “worrying whether you’ll miss her” or wondering if “the right one got away”? My dad told me something when I was really young which has proven to be more valuable than anything anyone else ever told me. He said “the deal of a lifetimes comes once a week”. In other words, do not worry that the “only one” got away. As you astutely noted, it’s foolish to base your happiness on getting a woman. Should you ever want a woman for some reason (I can think of one very good reason only), the deal of a lifetime will come once a week. 🙂

[kbbroilerParticipant 886]

I live in Toronto too. Welcome!

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

kbbroiler wrote:

I live in Toronto too. Welcome!

I live in the GTA as well, and again welcome The_Young. Use the wisdom provided here to avoid all the traps, mind fields, and pitfalls that women and life in general will bring you. When in doubt just ask us and we are here to help.

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