"Just don't expect anything"

[The Skank SpankerParticipant 1372]

So I have been dating around for the last couple of years, no STD’s, just playing safe and not taking any bulls~~~. Just pump and dump seems to work so far.

What I noticed amongst some of these entitled c~~~s is the notion or idea that they think “men only want sex”. Thus they try to use the power of the “vagina” over me a lot. They assume they can make us jump through all kinds of hoops. They even give me crap like this:

“We can have a drink, just don’t expect anything…”

“Just know im not easy!”

Or they just blindly assume you want sex, just to get a reaction out of you:

“I’m sorry but I’m looking for a relationship.”

“Sorry, I don’t do hookups.”

Now besides the fact that they overvalue their vagina’s, what really gets me annoyed is that these women think the entire world of a man revolves around her “vagina” (which is a direct result of vagina overvaluation). Not only is a pure statement of arrogance to assume that men are so simplistic to say they only care about sex. Sure, we have a higher libido, but most men can control this with ease.

My response is:

“I can’t make it tonight, im going to the new Terminator with my buddies.”

“Sorry, got to go masturbate.”

The most epic part is when they realize my world does indeed not revolve around your skanky-ass c~~~. They either turn out to be totally flabbergasted, because no guy ever canceled a date on her or becomes toxic and starts an epic rant on “why” and “whether shes not good enough for me”. Total fun. Besides there are 3 billion vagina’s all over the world, why should I put effort into trying to have yours? Infact i’d rather just stay at home, get some lube and be done in 3 minutes rather then having to spend an entire evening trying to get into your pants.

Sometimes I wish I could just re-engineer my brain so that I could turn of my sex-drive. It’s f~~~ing useless (to me). I’ll let the beta-mangina-males reproduce instead, thanks.

To the undercover weemen here: your vagina is not made out of gold and sprinkled with diamonds, get back in line with the rest of the meatholes and lose the entitlement.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Amen to that brother.

^ what he said.

Oh, and a response I read here: “don’t worry, I don’t want to have sex with you anyways.” Totally flips them out! 😀

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[Bestieboy666Participant 2358]

In my younger days I used a sort of reverse psychology. Would try to get them a bit interested and by the end of the evening…
I’m not sure we should go back to my place.
Yep totally agree. Maybe another time.
Ok. So you don’t want to come back?
Best not I suppose, got work tomorrow.
Do you have to be up early?
Yeah but I could just meet up with you here next week.
Do you want to come back for a little while?
Well I don’t know…
Just coffee, and you know?
Ok but not for long.

This worked more times than not. You just had to get them to realize you were doing them a favor.

Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

Oh yeah that’s how they are ,as soon some woman tell me that crap.i tell her bye bye

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Let’s be honest… the only reason you would meet a woman you don’t know for a drink or take her to dinner or a show or to do anything remotely like a date is to f~~~ her.

So one point to her for KNOWING that you want her vagina. If you wanted anything other than her vagina, it wouldn’t even be up for question. What, you’re buying a girl drinks in a night club so you can get investment advice from her? I think not.

Now here’s the deal for me… we tacitly agree when arranging a date that sex is on the table (or under it, if things go well) but we also tacitly agree that a meaningful relationship is also a possibility. She’s offering the possibility of the sex she knows I want and I’m offering the possibility of the protection and provision that I know she wants. If she chooses to shatter this delicate illusion by stating up front that she is NOT offering her end of the deal, she is not bargaining in good faith and you simply respond by withdrawing your end of the deal as well.

“I’ll have a few drinks with you but I’m not sleeping with you.”

“Well I’m pleased to know you’ve been thinking about f~~~ing me, but if you’ve already decided that’s not going to happen, then I’ll go drinking with someone else. Thank you, good night.”

And then you walk. Remember, our protection and provision is worth a thousand times the value of any piece of ass you might get. Any one of them can lay there, do little or nothing and get f~~~ed, but what we bring to the table takes constant effort and sacrifice, often far above and beyond anything they could possibly offer as compensation.

And their friendship isn’t worth a s~~~ either. There shouldn’t be any lingering doubt about that, at this point.

So to recap: if you’re “dating” a woman and she isn’t f~~~ing you after, say, the third time you meet, you’re not dating her… you’re just feeding and watering her so someone else can f~~~ her for free.

[bob__Participant 946]

So to recap: if you’re “dating” a woman and she isn’t f~~~ing you after, say, the third time you meet, you’re not dating her

F~~~ on the first date and do it before you give her any stuff. There’s no guarantee of a third time. Women can walk away after two dates with a bunch of your stuff if you wait that long.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

This is why you don’t buy her drinks. You don’t pay for her dinner. You don’t pay for her tickets. Ever.

She assumes in the primitive reptilian core of her brain that there’s a resources for sex transaction going on, and so will withhold as much as possible to try to drive up the price. She may not even be aware she’s doing this, or why. When you refuse to pay for anything for her you are essentially telling her what she has to offer isn’t even worth the price of a drink to you. You completely undercut her entire bargaining position in her head with that one simple thing. But she needs your stuff more than you need her. She needs you to give a f~~~ (literally). So as soon as you refuse to pay for her pussy (even if you genuinely don’t want it) she will throw it at you. Because she has absolutely nothing else to offer.

The moment you give no f~~~s about sex and refuse to pay for it, it becomes free. And freely available.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

sidecar wrote:

This is why you don’t buy her drinks. You don’t pay for her dinner. You don’t pay for her tickets. Ever.

She assumes in the primitive reptilian core of her brain that there’s a resources for sex transaction going on, and so will withhold as much as possible to try to drive up the price. She may not even be aware she’s doing this, or why. When you refuse to pay for anything for her you are essentially telling her what she has to offer isn’t even worth the price of a drink to you. You completely undercut her entire bargaining position in her head with that one simple thing. But she needs your stuff more than you need her. She needs you to give a f~~~ (literally). So as soon as you refuse to pay for her pussy (even if you genuinely don’t want it) she will throw it at you. Because she has absolutely nothing else to offer.

The moment you give no f~~~s about sex and refuse to pay for it, it becomes free. And freely available.

I’m not a playah, never been, but this advice is sound: act all disinterested, ignore them, sip your beer while they try their best to grab your attention, laugh quietly, drink more beer while you ignore them and at the end of the evening they’re begging you to fill their c~~~s.

Honestly, I never jumped that ship because I couldn’t care less about one night stands, which means all power to me, but just try it out if you want to f~~~ that hot blond c~~~ you often see in the pub!

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Nerevar wrote:

I’m not a playah, never been, but this advice is sound:

But this isn’t about being a player or “game” or any of that PUA nonsense.

act all disinterested,

And that, right there, is why. It’s not about “acting” disinterested. It’s about genuinely being disinterested. That is one of the difference between the PUA and the MGHOW. The PUA wants sex, and puts on all sorts of acts in the hope of getting it. The MGHOW doesn’t give any f~~~s, both figuratively and literally.

Honestly, I never jumped that ship because I couldn’t care less about one night stands,

But this isn’t just about one night stands. Or just about sex. Every single interaction you have with women, be it sexual or professional or casual or whatever, works the same way.

[Anonymous 2]

Introduce them as your friend. It starts the ball rolling, the thought of you not giving a s~~~ kills them. Like previously said. Back when I chased it, when a woman acted flaky about banging I would push them away. Hottest one I ever had happened this way. After a week of talking we go out, she shows alot of negative body language even though the conversation is good. She sets the tone early by saying shes not feeling it. Ok I say. So I flirt with the waitress which I knew all through dinner. Waitress asks whos this? I say my friend so and so. Bitch is boiling now,but trying not to be. We leave I say goodbye, as I walkaway she says lets go to my place. So off to her place to bang. A few days later I call her and she says to me ” Sorry im not intetested”! I ask for curiosity ” so why did we f~~~”? She said “because you didnt want me anymore and flirted all night with the woman. I couldnt stand to be ignored”! Easiest lay I ever had. Sorry long winded. Show them love and effection and they hate you. Tell them to f~~~ off and they cling to you. Makes no sense!

[MGTOW2012Participant 37]

Once you break the repetitive cycle of them expecting you to bow down, that’s when they realize their vagina isn’t worth as much as they initially thought.
Sure it’s nice to mess around with women once in a while, but only if you know how to cover your tracks and proceed with caution.
Even then one may think it’s not even worth it but to each their own.

The programming that we have been receiving for centuries needs to stop NOW, nonetheless.

If we keep following the same ordinary routine with the entire chivalry act, we’ll never advance in society and just remain as we are.

There needs to be a shift in the tides of the social context towards self-liberation.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Women cannot expect anything from me.I like it like that.

A whole lot less trouble

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Upon the “just don’t expect anything” line we could still do better than that. How about a response like this?

: “Well, as in any properly working relationship based equally on trust and responsibility everything goes both ways, right.? And what I just said makes me more mature than you at this point, because judging from the puzzled look in your eyes right there I can tell that you’re still trying to figure this one out yourself.
Well then, good luck and good night my child.”

… and walk away.

The delivery of such lines in a polite calm and concise way (with a smile towards the end!) might well come across like a mystified truth bomb in her face.

As for further unfolding of the situation: Turning around to go back to her straight after her reaction would rather be PUA style whilst keeping going would be mgtow style.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Anonymous 25]

I’ve tried lots of different responses to this one just to humour myself.

One of my favourites is:

“I didn’t offer to have sex with you, but feel free to presume. That’s what rapists do.”

They usually go mental at that reframe.

[boisdevieParticipant 257]

I was seeing a woman late last year. She gave me the ‘I want to take it slow’ (aka no sex for you) so I replied ‘so you won’t have a problem with me dating other women then@ (aka you’re not the only woman on this planet) – she was in my bed within a few days.
It is so liberating when you get to the stage of not really giving a s~~~ and when they know that they can’t handle it.

[boisdevieParticipant 257]

I was seeing a woman late last year. She gave me the ‘I want to take it slow’ (aka no sex for you) so I replied ‘so you won’t have a problem with me dating other women then (aka you’re not the only woman on this planet) – she was in my bed within a few days.
It is so liberating when you get to the stage of not really giving a s~~~ and when they know that they can’t handle it.

[Anonymous 11]

A woman is capable of saying anything. Not that it always means anything or can even mean the exact opposite.

I’ve learned over the years to expect nothing from them except for stupid bulls~~~ in some way, shape or form.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

boisdevie wrote:

I want to take it slow

When a woman pulls that s~~~, I just ask her “have you ever had a one-night stand?”

Of course she has. They all have.

“So if you didn’t wait for HIM, why would you wait for me?”

“Well I think you’re someone I could really LIKE.”

“Oh I see. So you will knowingly screw men you DON’T like right away. But you WON’T have sex with men you DO like???”

Now she f~~~ed herself into a corner.

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The women who say “don’t expect anything” are extreme idiots.

“Just don’t expecting anything.”

“See this napkin? I can EXPECT something from it. I can expect to wipe my mouth or nose with it, or lay it over my lap to protect my pants from tomato sauce. It’s an object and I can expect something from it. But here you are telling me that I should not expect ANYTHING from you. Are you telling me you are more useless than a napkin?”

I saw a youtube video of a female on a video dating profile listing off her expectation and she said “you should not expect anything from me”. A guy just ripped it apart in exactly the same way. It was hilarious.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[The Skank SpankerParticipant 1372]

sidecar wrote:

But she needs your stuff more than you need her. She needs you to give a f~~~ (literally). So as soon as you refuse to pay for her pussy (even if you genuinely don’t want it) she will throw it at you. Because she has absolutely nothing else to offer.

The moment you give no f~~~s about sex and refuse to pay for it, it becomes free. And freely available.

If you refuse to “play her game” she will just find some other beta/mangina douche that will play like she wants to. And that’s fine, because I refuse to play her game in the first place. However if I wanted to have sex with her initially, I have lost that option whether I genuinely cared or not.

Although I agree with your reasoning / logic, giving 0 f~~~s doesn’t make sex freely available. The 0-f~~~ mentality could make it easier to have sex, but not if she is surrounded by 10 other pussy-whipped mangina’s who are willing to jump of a bridge just to take a look at her golden-fleece, diamond coated pussy. This is where the universal “Law of Scarcity” comes in.

Sex is anything but freely available (excluding hookers) if you consider that 95% of Western women are soaked in disney entitlement en privilege princess disorders.

[The Skank SpankerParticipant 1372]

Keymaster wrote:

boisdevie wrote:

I want to take it slow

When a woman pulls that s~~~, I just ask her “have you ever had a one-night stand?”

Of course she has. They all have.

“So if you didn’t wait for HIM, why would you wait for me?”

“Well I think you’re someone I could really LIKE.”

“Oh I see. So you will knowingly screw men you DON’T like right away. But you WON’T have sex with men you DO like???”

Now she f~~~ed herself into a corner.

According to “female logic” giving early on sex to a man she really likes diminishes the chance of him sticking around and “working” for her vagina / gives her free stuff and attention. Should she agree to sex on a first date with a guy she really likes, chances of him sticking around for something “serious” become less because he already achieved his primal and foremost goal: to have sexual intercourse.

So she would rather have sex with a Chad Thunderc~~~ on date 1, because she would never really want to get to know him and doesn’t pursue anything serious with him (because he will not ever change and he isn’t stable material). Then comes along Mr. Nice Guy (stable, wealthy midclass beta), he also wants sex, but she knows she can withhold it for atleast 10 dates, because he doesn’t have the b~~~~ to walk away like Chad did. Ta-da, female manipulation at its core.

This makes it somewhat understandable. Then again this is totally dependent on how any particular woman perceives a man (and her emotional state at the time).

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