Journey to MGTOW

[Anonymous 6]

My journey to this mindset is very simple. I saw the wrongdoing going on in the black community and rebelled against it. Most people my age don’t think about their future, but i do. Most of my classmates have multiple kids, so much to the point where it would be easier to name the ones that DON’T have kids. And in this society, its almost encouraged that these girls pop out kids with no regard to anything. It used to be a time when having kids out of wedlock was shamed, it meant that you could no longer do what you wanted to do in life because you now had responsibility. But today there is no shame in it. Sometimes the very first time a parent meets their daughters boyfriend is when they are announcing that they are pregnant. Let’s not be fools here, it’s the women that choose who they want to be with. It’s the women who choose who they procreate with, so if they choose wrong, then that’s their fault. Hell we’ve seen what happens when women choose their own men, they end up choosing Aladdin instead of the Prince their father wanted them to have. Aladdin was a street thug with nothing going for himself but ended up with the “Princess”. I know it’s a cartoon but it was a pretty good example.

On FaceBook, i was on this page called “Black Men Vent”, which is nothing but guys telling their stories about the downfalls of the black community and how things need to be different. It’s kind of like MGTOW, they would actually embrace relationships if the right woman comes along. Other than that they just leave them alone. But they won’t be shamed into a relationship by women who don’t have their best interests at heart or fall in line with societal standards. Through that page, i saw a link to a MGTOW facebook page and it brought me here. So i lurked this site for a while reading the forums, and finally decided to make a page. Black Men Vent touted to statistics that black women are 70% single and the majority of kids are born out of wedlock. And when black guys do get married, they choose non-black women instead. Me personally, the life i want is simple. I’m a big fan of trucks,(Go FORD) so i always say i want two trucks and a house to park them at.That’s not asking much and i don’t want to be in a situation where my finances, real estate, property, and investments are in jeopardy because i signed a contract that does nothing for me. A contract that does not have your best interest at heart, is not a contract that should be signed.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Welcome! The societal collapse we are bearing witness to has much of its roots in feminism. You nailed it when describing the mindset of the modern young woman – thug worshiping, shameless and no incentive to work. MGTOW inoculates us men from their perfidy as well as turns out focus on the only thing in this declining society we can control – our own lives.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Brother,

The females do the choosing .

Look up Brifaults law.

As a white guy, I feel for the honest, hard working black men.

I used to be a racist. But, I killed my TV. And met some black men here and found I have a lot in common.

Now , I look at their class and not their skin color.

I am honored to have you as a friend.

You are welcome here.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[StereotypeParticipant 33]

Venom, welcome! Glad you made it here. I have seen & heard black women complain bitterly about the lack of black men. But who the f~~~ wants to marry a self righteous, overweight, loud, arrogant, obnoxious and possibly smelly woman who you already know is going to mess you up any way she can?

My favorite argument from black women to black men (about black men marrying anyone BUT a black woman) is: “What’s the matter with you? You not man enough to handle a real sister?” Hey, that’s the way, girl! Shaming language does so much to encourage the behavior you’re trying to force down the throat of your audience! Way to go! And, f~~~ you!

Glad you found a link here, Venom. Welcome to where we all should always have been.

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

Welcome Venom, you have joined a great community that can help you with everything in your life in the last 2 months I have been here everyone has been great and supportive. You will learn and become aware of a lot more and learn from other brothers here you have made mistakes.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Welcome, Venom. You guys have it extra hard. Gad you found the right path.

There are two things in ife that ensures success… two things you must never give up regardless of where you come from:

1. A calm, positive attitude towards life.. which helps you solves any problem with ease without much trouble and stress; and

2. Education (the right type, not the fem. type) which basically saves your life in many cases… AND gives you incentives to go forward in life and aids you in realizing your dreams.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Warmest Welcome Venom;

You have hit the nail on the head; but its only the tip of the iceberg. It was a very rude awakening for me – mid 30s, raised in an “old school” European household that fostered traditional value. When I was young, having a child out of wedlock was a point of gossip. When my parents were younger, you would be disowned for a pre-marriage, accidental pregnancy. It’s amazing how “far” we have come. (/sarcastic).

Today, women are condoned by society to destroy perfectly viable relationships simply because the husband is too responsible, too nice, too caring. Yes, predicable and reliable can be boring – but it helped built civilization. Times are too good – food, relative security, shelter, access to medicine are currently guaranteed; hence why this societal dynamic is the norm. Women get to have their cake and eat it too – all enforced by the state.

Feminism liberated women from their traditional gender roles and gave them sexual freedom. Part of freedom is responsibility for ones actions. Instead of holding the female responsible for poor reproductive choices, they have established a system of laws to shift the responsibility to hard working men through taxes, social programs, and the transfer of wealth at the end of a relationship.

In turn, the society gets a pliable group of plebs (sheepeople), that are absolutely dependent on the government dole. As each generation goes by, sired primarily by either absent thug bad-boy type that women gravitate towards, or by beta-wallets who are kicked to the curb and have no meaningful say in their child’s development, the dependencies grows exponentially.

I am of the belief, that within the next 20-30 years, 95% of all people in first world society will be unable to provide for themselves or think for themselves. The learned dependency of the nanny state. But, the system is non-sustainable. The minority cannot be taxed to support the majority. Little by little the social programs will be removed and the top 1-5% will have an abundance of cheap, unskilled, pliable labor that is desperate to have basic needs met. (Abraham Maslow’s Hierarchy of Human needs).

I believe that your only defense is to engage in the system as little as possible. Go stealth. Never marry, don’t procreate, opt out of the beta social contract. Develop skills that make you independent and foster critical thinking skills. Be in the top 1-5%.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[Anonymous 0]

Hi Venom. I wish you all the best and it seems you are certainly on the right path with the best mind-set. I’m sure you will be successful if you maintain you course.

[darreljamesonParticipant 57]

I saw a vid on here by a black MGTOW Mr. Dawson on blacks being the testing ground for eliminating the family unit. He pointed out how the government used welfare to convince the black women they didn’t need no man, resulting in all these fatherless homes. Now the gov does the same to whites through feminism. Then he pointed out they tested the fake food, high fructose corn syrup, processed freeze dried s~~~ on blacks through the food assistance to all these single mothers. This resulted in chunky 11 yr old black girls that had full figures like 20-30 yr old women. No father + adult figure = teen mothers. Now they do this to whites through fast food. The government elite are a common enemy to whites and blacks, and they need to keep us separate! It is not a race thing, it is a poor and young vs the paid politicians and their rich donors thing.

Basically, it is feudalism with the kings (politicians) and their nobles (big corporations) controlling the means of production, serfs (us). This is what crony capitalism and every communist or socialist government is.

Don’t take my word for it, watch a 50 yr old black man tell you what he saw unravel over his lifetime. Check Mr. Dawson’s black mgtow vid for yourself. Maybe it is DR. Dawson? He is a preacher.

All blacks need to see this, because conservatives and republicans (Tea party, non-establishment, even Reagan) try to tell the black community this and get labeled as racist by the plantation owners (Dem politicians) and the media. They, the dems, do not want you to even think about this because we know that if you make decent money and have middle class taxes taken out, then you won’t support government waste. It is in the Tea parties’ best interest that blacks make money and get into higher tax brackets, and it is in the dems interest that blacks get on welfare to vote for more tax on everyone else. Do you think dem politicians want to help you so that you will stop voting for higher welfare and higher taxes?!!! Therefore, because 99% of black voters believe the dems that everyone else is racist, blacks won’t even explore the possibility that decades of dem leadership in their cities has led to generations of poor, broken home, welfare recipients that never get the skills and work experience to demand decent pay… just higher minimum wage.

Back to min wage in a second, but first you need to know that the media, NBC, MSNBC, ABC in particular took 100’s of 1000’s of dollars in advertising money FROM THE GOVERNMENT to run commercials on how great the stimulus money was to create green jobs. The windmills GE had built in China, remember those green jobs commercials constantly running promoting the stimulus? Olbermann took like 500k by himself and Maddow was 2nd top recipient. Also BP was and still is a major advertiser on MSNBC back before the oil spill that ruined the southwest coast. They were in top 5 donors to 0bama, and got permission from his admin to drill deep water with no procedure to stop a pipe leak if it occurred. If that isn’t bad enough, GE was top advertiser on MSNBC, and the GE CEO was in top 5 of 0bama’s donors in 2008 and 2012. You can look it up. The DNC donors literally keep MSNBC on the air, meaning the 0bama’s admin pays their salaries. Meanwhile Fox is kept on air by advertising from big oil and mutual fund companies. Big oil buys repubs, and sometimes dems like BP did 0bama, and the investment bankers buy both parties, hence Bush and 0bama bailing them out. Hey, Fox is owned by the banks, and I won’t sugar coat it. Meanwhile, the banks own 0bama and Hillary a-la Goldman Sachs. You can easily look this up if you doubt me.

Back to minimum wage and why it has to be increased every few years because it no longer is a “livable wage.” The poverty level raises with the minimum wage, and this is why the poor need another increase after 0bama himself already did one. The pay increased, but the cost of groceries and rent did too! Guess what, groceries and fast food employ people near min wage; so, when it increased, they passed the buck to the consumer…you! The only escape for a young poor black or white is to get a useful college degree or trade and get a job where you get paid more than someone else and can’t be replaced by any random dude off the street corner. If you make minimum, no matter how high it is, you have the lowest buying power available. It is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Since your dollar vote is worth more than your actual vote, no politician will keep their promise to you.

Before you say NAWALT, condemn those women publicly; it's like a signal flare to the good men you can't find. But. first...stop being THAT girl.

[darreljamesonParticipant 57]

The video is “Why women are selling out men.” It’s in the forums. I just kept yelling “Amen, someone finally gets it!” The black community has said for sometime that the Government was not to be trusted…yet somehow 96% or whatever percent of the ones that vote choose to give the Government Statists more power, and anyone that asks why is called racist.

This has been particularly prevalent in the last 8 years for obvious reasons, and that card has been worn out. I’m sure I’m not the only one being tired of being called racist for asking “but won’t this actually hurt the black community?” The dems now want to replace race card with the woman card, but most people are done falling for that crap (if you disagree with me then you are a racist bigoted xenophobic homophobe).

A bad idea is a bad idea no matter what color or gender the person is that champions it, and now that it affects people’s wallets (ala ACA, coal industry bankruptcies, part-time economy) or safety (boston marathon, Brussels, London, sanctuary city murders, rapefugees in Germany,) people care. If only they really cared about all those Iraqi civilians I kept hearing about during 6 of Bush’s years, that are now being culled by the tens of thousands, or the fact that the middle east has been on fire since we took Iraq’s funding and gave it to “moderates” in Syria (through FSA to indirectly ISIL which became ISIS, now IS). Warmonger Establishment Repubs like McCain were all for it, and McConnel and Boehner certainly didn’t fight it. Sorry I am just such a political junkee, but there are sooooooo many examples of counterproductive ideas that people were called racist for opposing, and now we can see the terrible outcomes. S~~~, how about abortion killing a majority of black babies conceived in new york in a given year…with preference towards female babies being aborted, of course. I think it was 2013 or so.

Hell I predict right f~~~ing now that these mexican poor workers will compete disproportionately for the same jobs and welfare resources of the young blacks, which face staggeringly disproportionate unemployment (~40-50%) even today. I predict the same effect will be felt by poor whites in trailers either on welfare or working in service, retail, or unskilled labor. I would be called racist against illegal immigrants for pointing out that they will harm the black community. How f~~~ed up is that? But if I’m correct in 10 years, does that mean it was racist, or just obvious to anyone paying attention?

Before you say NAWALT, condemn those women publicly; it's like a signal flare to the good men you can't find. But. first...stop being THAT girl.

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