Japanese Culture, women and Japanese porno

[Silver SurferParticipant 3]

I have read that there is a lot of MGTOW happening in Japan, and it made me think for a bit about their culture and the role of woman there.   The Japanese men seem to have a fantasy life that revolves around humiliation of woman.

Almost all Japanese porn features woman screaming as if they being hurt while having sex.   They also have a lot of bondage porno, and gang bang and bukake porno, all of which has in common the degradation of the porn starlets into pure objects of abuse and vessels for the collection of men’s cum.

One particular common theme is “punishing” bound woman by forcing them to orgasm endlessly using sex toys, many of them made from industrial tools.  They are reduced to screaming, continuously convulsing tear covered wrecks  Perhaps this is the Japanese way to demonstrate and reveal the true nature of women. Men can not be tortured in this fashion.

When I was there I was surprised to see men openly reading porno comic books on the subway.  It seems to be one of the most popular forms of reading.  I flipped through some and they were again completely full of male domination fantasy, from what I saw.

Anyone have any insights on what man-woman relationships are like in Japan.   Is all of this punishment and humiliation something new, a response to changing roles in Japan, and Japanese male anger at their women?  Or is it some older tradtion?  I find it somewhat surprising that woman volunteer to be in these movies (assuming they do), but then you can also find lots of western woman who are submissive who like being abused in B&D scenarios, I suppose.

I’ve read about Japanese “herbivore” men, who seem like their version of MGTOW, but at the same time it seems that there are other currents flowing in man/woman relationships in Japan than we here.

[Anonymous 12]

I’ve noticed in Japan that humiliation in general is a common theme. Look at most of their game shows for example they involve the contestants male or female being humiliated in some way sexually or otherwise.

The other thing I have heard is that men can buy worn female panties from vending machines.

To me it all points to a lack of pride and self esteem, corruption a culture and nation in decay. The Yakuza also are the ones who run the sex industry over there so cruelty and degradation would be a major factor. What bemuses me is that Japan will allow all of this but genitals are pixilated because you wouldn’t want to be obscene now would you!

To me that would be another element in a decaying nation, hypocrisy and denial.

What I really don’t get is Japanese men as far as I can tell haven’t been emasculated the way Western men have been, and Japanese women from what I have been told are very respectful, so why they decided to just walk away is interesting to think about. I am guessing the stress they put themselves under with school and work play a big part.

 

[QcummerParticipant 652]

Going from total bad ass warriors taking over Asia and then getting nuked..like, twice, and not being allowed to have an standing army…may have something to do with their present culture. it may be a way of dealing with that humiliation that hit ’em so hard. just a thought.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

What I really don’t get is Japanese men as far as I can tell haven’t been emasculated the way Western men have been, and Japanese women from what I have been told are very respectful, so why they decided to just walk away is interesting to think about.

Japanese men are plenty emasculated. Supposed Japanese machismo is all an act. The Japanese salaryman husband is expected to turn over his entire paycheck to his wife, and only gets a weekly allowance from her at her discretion. Japan may not be feminist, but it’s still unbelievably gynocentric. This is one of the things the herbivores are walking away from.

Qcummer wrote:

Going from total bad ass warriors taking over Asia and then getting nuked..like, twice, and not being allowed to have an standing army…may have something to do with their present culture. it may be a way of dealing with that humiliation that hit ’em so hard. just a thought.

The Japanese have been weird as f~~~ since LONG before WW2.

I blame their self isolation on a small island for a couple hundred years. That kind of pressure cooker is bound to create some strange results. If anything their defeats in 1854 and WW2 and so on introduced a little sanity.

[StandUpGuyParticipant 334]

This is are really deep topic; I have some but not enough experience to comment. What I will note is that many Asian women like to sex but do not like to be open about it so having the man do the dirty work for them; so they do not have to admit they like it so much. Just a thought.

[LupusParticipant 214]

Would it not be as simple as: They have to work insane hours and under abnormal pressure, so they need an equally opposite and “extreme” release valve?

It might just be causality at work.

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