IVF Rates soar as more men shun marriage.

[Anonymous 12]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3193616/Number-single-women-resorting-IVF-TRIPLES-decade-men-shun-marriage-women-careers-motherhood.html

Good news but what would be even better would be if more men also shunned donating sperm! When that happens we will see some real panic.

 

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

That just made my day! Now stop giving away the sperm men, only let the meth attic’s shoot in the cup.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[Dark BuddhaParticipant 13]

Survival of the fittest? Perhaps this is harsh but at the end of the day you are not entitled at offspring.

Imagine a world where everyone can have children in some sort of incubator, a mechanical womb perhaps? What would be needed for that? SPERM.. that’s what, turns out MEN are the givers of life afterall. But then, what happens if we go further beyond and we get to choose the child’s gender? Everyone would choose male, so that it too can multiply, right? Can’t make a kid with 2 wombs but sperm and brain(technology) could work.

ATM, there is not much stopping a woman from simply taking your kids and f~~~ing them up, these days you are not even guaranteed a normal life for your children (they should go to the richest of the family members in case of a divorce… you know, the person that WORKS and knows how to do things and not spread legs at random). With so many hoes dropping babies to pick up flowers .. nah f~~~ that.

Slowly but surely 😀 unless I misunderstood things.

I, for one, welcome our new sexbot/testtube overlords. Fk it, go full X-files.

[RoyDalParticipant]

If you want offspring, just donate to an artificial insemination clinic. Some clinics will pay you for it. They are suffering a shortage in some areas — unbelievable but true!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Anonymous wrote:

Good news but what would be even better would be if more men also shunned donating sperm! When that happens we will see some real panic.

The UK is already struggling with a sperm shortage and it really doesn’t help that Muslim immigrants are out breeding the natives.

 

[FrankOneParticipant 1425]

With over 800,000 live births in UK & Wales annually, and even after the increase only 952 single IVF applicants, even if every single IVF applicant produced a single offspring that year (unlikely), you’re talking about 0.12% of births — so it’s an increase, but from a near zero baseline.

I’ve always marveled at the obsession with IVF and fertility treatments, when there are so many adoptable children.  Must. Carry. On. My. Genes.

There’s also a greater shortage of eggs, and that is caused by the UK’s £250 ‘donor’ limit — obviously, egg extraction is a time-consuming surgical procedure.  In contrast, a pretty girl with a college education in the US can get ~$30,000 for her eggs.  Typical result of restricting the free market in the UK.

As for the sperm shortage, the reason for it, is that the UK ended anonymity for donors in 2005.  So about 1/4 of sperm samples are imported. http://time.com/2936014/uk-sperm-shortage/ Men are agreeable to being paid to do something they were already going to do anyway, but expect compensation for the time to drive to an office, and many expect anonymity.

 

 

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

if they’re short on sperm, they need to raise the price they’re willing to pay for sperm.  pass the extra cost on to mr and mrs Infertile.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[FermatParticipant 3478]

The UK has been hit hard by feminism, coupled with the rising standard of living and the financial ruin of divorces. Give it 20 years. If IVF become more popular, they will also become more expensive because companies will realize they can make a lot of money off of post-wall career driven sluts. The future is a bright one indeed.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Anonymous 29]

uchibenkei wrote:

if they’re short on sperm, they need to raise the price they’re willing to pay for sperm. pass the extra cost on to mr and mrs Infertile.

To the best of my knowledge donors only get paid in USA. All other western  countries do not but that will change soon.

[UntamedParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3193616/Number-single-women-resorting-IVF-TRIPLES-decade-men-shun-marriage-women-careers-motherhood.html

Good news but what would be even better would be if more men also shunned donating sperm! When that happens we will see some real panic.

You’re right, although it doesn’t take a lot to rattle their nerves. It seems a simple tweet ‘ll do the trick.

I’m curious, tho.
What kind men give their sperm like that? I mean besides the money, what’s the idea?

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Anonymous 3]

I thought men stopped giving sperm because women were successfully suing for child support. No man should be giving sperm in the first place though.

[Just a ManParticipant 934]

They are already setting the precedents to hold sperm donors accountable. Need to know the father’s…..in order to prevent…..always in the name of the children’s “safety and well being”. So it is probably a good idea NOT to donate.

Philosophy, the female repellent

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

I thought men stopped giving sperm because women were successfully suing for child support. No man should be giving sperm in the first place though.

Not yet, except in a very few unusual cases.

But it’s only a matter of time.

They’ve already taken away anonymity from sperm donors, and that’s the first step to nailing them for 216 monthly payments. That’s something men understand implicitly. Men saw that particular writing on the wall handily, so as soon as anonymity went away, so did the sperm supply, leaving wanna-be mommies and the baster-baby industry wondering what the f~~~ just happened.

Women are always so surprised and confused when men turn out not to be the gullible rubes they fantasize them to be. And then they get angry and blame men for not being gullible rubes.

[FrankOneParticipant 1425]

There is only one case in the US I’m aware of, where a man WAS required to pay support to one member of a lesbian couple artificially inseminated.  http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/justice/kansas-sperm-donation/ This is ridiculous because he had signed documents of no parental responsibility… But in litigious Amerika a doctor must be involved to exempt him from support requirements and no doctor was involved…

The opposite case also holds, men who want a parental role after donating and women who want the child to themselves, e.g. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/05/20/could-a-california-bill-make-going-from-sperm-donor-to-father-as-easy-as-filling-out-a-form-not-so-fast/

But why have more laws?  Just have a written agreement that courts respect, spelling out anonymity, etc.

In the UK, donors only get expenses + lost wages, not exceeding £250.

As for why men do it, they want progeny, or to help infertile couples.  Or they want the money!  California Cryobank gives $125/donation, their web site indicates up to $1500/month for 3 times a week.  Not bad pay for jacking off, haha.

The argument made by Statists, for disclosing donors was so children could know their genetic background and have a chance to contact their biological parents.  I think the State should STAY OUT OF IT, and individual donors decide themselves whether to be anonymous.

 

[Anonymous 12]

Untamed wrote:

Morlock wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3193616/Number-single-women-resorting-IVF-TRIPLES-decade-men-shun-marriage-women-careers-motherhood.html Good news but what would be even better would be if more men also shunned donating sperm! When that happens we will see some real panic.

You’re right, although it doesn’t take a lot to rattle their nerves. It seems a simple tweet ‘ll do the trick. I’m curious, tho. What kind men give their sperm like that? I mean besides the money, what’s the idea?

 

I don’t get it either, if you want an offspring to carry on your legacy so to speak then surely you would want a hand in bringing that child up, chances are your genes go to Ms Lesbian Feminist and your son or daughter is brought up to be just another useful idiot. Imagine if due to that upbringing your kid goes onto actually campaigning against men and male rights.

Or worse you get a knock on the door in a few years because they want to meet daddy and momma wants your money!

 

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I am actually in the process of filling out an application to be a donor. Not sure if I’ll get approved though, due to my mental health medical history – having problems with drugs and alcohol disqualifies you from donating sperm. I will have to lie on the application and hope they won’t be able to access my medical records.

Why am I doing this? Three reasons.
1) I owe it to my ancestors to propagate our genes, and it’s too much work and trouble to do it the natural way. And this seems like a reasonable and convenient shortcut
2) I want to store my frozen sperm in a cryobank so I could get a vasectomy. I hope that in the future I’ll be able to have more kids of my own to bring up, even after vasectomy.
3) Money

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

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