I've been a ghost for awhile.

[CasperParticipant 66]

Hi, guys! 🙂

I picked the name Casper because I think it suits me.  I don’t Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Tumblr, Tinder, Match, etc.  This website is just about the extent of my social media presence.  I’ve never been married and I don’t have any kids.  I don’t ever want to get married or have any kids.  I graduated high school when I was seventeen, college when I was twenty, and have retired before forty.  I love life, and people often tell me they are jealous of me and that anyone would be lucky to be me.  Some people just hate me, though, lol.  People hate because they have to work, are older, and don’t think that is fair, or they are divorced paying alimony and/or child support and are just all around miserable, or they are women who are trying and failing to sink their claws into me.  People are always trying to set me up with this person or that person, and it is annoying.  I wish they’d stop, and I tell them as much, but they don’t.

Anyway, I’ve never given my lifestyle a label before, but when I discovered MGTOW and this site, it all just fit.  I’ve been reading over this site the past few days, and I have just been laughing so much, because it is all true.  This is a great place and the time I’ve spent reading, watching, and listening to the content of this site has been most enjoyable.  Thanks, to all of you who contribute.  🙂

[RennieParticipant]

Welcome Casper the Friendly Ghost,

I picked my name based on an individual I knew, who lived and died the MGTOW life, long before it was ever defined. He is my role model.

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

Caspar, you beautiful, brilliant bastard, I salute you!!

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[GrefParticipant 203]

Welcome to the MGTOW community Casper

You retired before 40! Holy hell lol. What kind of work did you do? What are you doing with your life right now? Some cool and fun stuff I bet!

You are absolutely brilliant and insightful, for being someone of your generation to have gone MGTOW. You came to the conclusion and had the foresight to see what it took men an extra 20+ years to see, that marriage is a bad deal. As someone who is only 23 I feel like there’s a ton I can learn from you. Feel free to share your wisdom and experiences here.

[url url=http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2d6337/i_was_divorce_raped_dont_be_me] I'm paying her 25% of my salary over the next eight years. I had to pay my lawyer, her lawyer, 50% of all my retirement funds and give her another few thousand dollars to make her go away. It cost me $20 to get married and will cost me over $220,000 to get divorced. [/url]

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

Welcome to the forums by the way you wont like my advice but i will give it to you anyway. We need a future generation of MGTOWs so you should rethink the not having kids part and ditch the old ball and chain.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[GrefParticipant 203]

J.D Silvernail wrote:

We need a future generation of MGTOWs so you should rethink the not having kids part and ditch the old ball and chain.

If you already have a son, raise him to be a MGTOW. But we don’t need to create baby boys just to have MGTOWs. MGTOW is a naturally occurring rational phenomenon that is a reaction to the changes that gynocentrism has brought to gender dynamics and marriage. Many men are MGTOW and don’t even know it yet. Just sit back and watch it happen, MGTOW is exploding.

[url url=http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2d6337/i_was_divorce_raped_dont_be_me] I'm paying her 25% of my salary over the next eight years. I had to pay my lawyer, her lawyer, 50% of all my retirement funds and give her another few thousand dollars to make her go away. It cost me $20 to get married and will cost me over $220,000 to get divorced. [/url]

[CasperParticipant 66]

Thanks for the welcome, guys! 🙂

I was probably a product of my environment as far as the MGTOW lifestyle goes.  I’ve read here that a smart person learns from their mistakes, but the really sharp ones learn from the mistakes of others.  That is me.  I saw the people around me suffering from bad relationships from the time I was very young.  My parents were both well educated and both made very good money, but they hated each other.  They never got divorced, but I remember them sitting me down one day to tell me that they were thinking about it, and they asked me who I would want to live with.  I told them I wanted to live with both of them.  Maybe that is why they never divorced.  But, I received much insight into their thinking since they shared with me at a very young age just how much they hated each other and constantly were amazed I loved either of them, lol.

I have two brothers and a sister.  My sister was unfaithful to her husband, had an abortion of the baby of the man she was having an affair with, and then told my ex-brother in law that she had a miscarriage.  Obviously, they divorced.  My younger brother is divorced, and my older brother’s relationship with his wife has always been shaky as they have separated and have had mental breakdowns.  So, I picked up on all of this and just decided to do my own thing.

I have dated and had a few one night stands, but over the years I was able to pick up some tricks that women do to trap men, and it was just a huge turn off for me.  Many of the guys I worked with were paying ridiculous alimony and child support.  They were spending so much money, I seriously questioned how they actually could afford a place to live for themselves.  I had a co-worker sabotage her birth control on purpose to have a kid.  If you pay attention to people, you can see the injustice everywhere.  Hell, I once walked into a convenience store and the female clerk was bragging about how much her ex had to pay her, and said, “that’s his problem.”  Now, when I look around, my eyes are really open, and I have no intention to ever place myself in a position to be taken advantage of.  I realize how good I have it right now, and want to keep it that way.

As far as the jobs I’ve had go, I don’t want to go into details about them right now, but the important thing to retire early is to save, save, save money.  Most people spend more than they earn and that is a big mistake.  Save as much as you can, because being a slave is no way to live.

[Anonymous 5]

Casper wrote:

Save as much as you can, because being a slave is no way to live.

What a great piece of wisdom,,,,,,and a mighty welcome to the boards Casper.

It’s fun to save, despite the feminazi shaming. Scrooge, skinflint, tightwad,,,,all putdowns originating from women.
Once you realise it’s just feminazi shaming, backed by materialistic capitalism,,,,,,it’s loads of fun.
It’s even more loads of fun to have loads of cash reserves. It gives you freedom, choice, therefore POWER!

I’m MGTOW level 3 now and I have been for well over 10 years. It means I’ve basically retired, but I still get a bit bored so I work part time mostly.
I find that if I start over working and earning too much I buy way too much STUFF.
If I had a woman that wouldn’t be any problem at all because no amount of earning can satiate their spending desires. Ask any millionaire,,,their demands increase proportionally to the amount of money they think they’re entitled to.

That’s just the money side of it.
I had my own relationship experience to learn from but it was the observational awareness that nailed it for me.
Including the so called “Successful” marriages that were really perpetual states of horror beneath a thin veneer of perfection.
I learned to never go fishing more than once or twice with a guy in a “Successful” marriage. The reality of his life oozes out like puss from a lanced boil once he feels comfortable and safe enough to start sharing.

Then the net came along, lol.
Hope you don’t feel quite so “weird” now, knowing there’s a whole generation of guys going the same way as you, for the same reasons.

[experiencedParticipant]

@ Ordinaryguy:  Thank you for your dynamic avatar and it’s quote.  When women reveal their true nature as in that quote, it must not be forgotten. You IMO have done a great service reminding us.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

Casper wrote:

Now, when I look around, my eyes are really open, and I have no intention to ever place myself in a position to be taken advantage of.  I realize how good I have it right now, and want to keep it that way.

A lot of us MGTOW’s are seeing the world and society with such clarity as this now. It is refreshing and disturbing at the same time. For me, I have now realized how dumb most people really are, I mean the complete lack of common sense and spatial awareness is mind blowing.

I have been criticized, abused, called weird and insecure because I have no intention of getting married at 40 y/o now. It’s like when you tell them this clearly and directly you can actually see their eyes spinning trying to calculate it in their tiny bubble minds. And yet the same dumbass responses always come out. So I just tend to avoid people now or when they ask, I flatly tell them “None of your business.” Then sometimes on that they reply “Are you gay?” People, most people I meet are grubs, they act and portray the “good hearted person” but as Casper said you’ve just got to watch them, because they really are grubs!

[Anonymous 5]

@experienced: Thanks for acknowledging what I stole from these boards,…ok it wasn’t stealing, it was shared by other guys. I got it legally, I think.
We all owe each other a little debt for the time, the effort, and guys lowering their guards and sharing, which takes guts.
thanks brother.

[experiencedParticipant]

DeepInThought wrote,”I have been criticized, abused, called weird and insecure because I have no intention of getting married at 40 y/o now.”

A response of,   “Throughout my twenties and early thirties I did everything I could to find a wife, but I was ‘criticized, abused, called weird and insecure’ so  many times that I’m heartbroken.”    might work.

Or are those same women giving you crap, willing to put up several hundred thousand in a trust fund or make payments on an insurance policy for your expenses when the ‘LAYDEE’ divorces you.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[CasperParticipant 66]

As far as being criticized for never getting married, it doesn’t happen anymore to me with people who know me.  In the past, I merely needed to point out the specific failed marriages and relationships throughout my extended family, and after consideration the only plausible reason they could come up with to encourage me to marry was, “we just don’t want you to be lonely,” to which I replied, “I don’t ever get lonely,” which is the truth.  I haven’t ever found the need to have someone with me all the time, and I actually think that would probably annoy me a great deal, because I enjoy my independence and the ability do whatever I want whenever I want to do it.  Plus, I have excellent health care and will always have enough money to pay someone to take care of me if the need ever arises.

There is an important part of retiring early that I left out of my previous post, and that is to never have children.  I consider children a blessing, but since I don’t have any I can also consider them a money sink without feeling like a child abuser.  I’m not sure what the exact number is, but I’ve heard people estimate that it costs about $250,000 to raise a child now.  Think about how much of that money you could have set aside for retirement instead.  Having children is a blessing, but they severely diminish a person’s capacity to retire early or sometimes even retire at all.  The people around me notice how much freedom I have without children or a wife, and those are two reasons they tell me I am lucky and many people would love to be me.  I can see the conflict of regret in their eyes.

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

Casper wrote:

“we just don’t want you to be lonely,”

 

Great line there Casper. People cannot grasp that alone does not mean lonely.

 

experienced wrote:

A response of,   “Throughout my twenties and early thirties I did everything I could to find a wife, but I was ‘criticized, abused, called weird and insecure’ so  many times that I’m heartbroken.”    might work.

 

Hmm I remember vaguely trying that once and told I should “lower my standards” Think the CraigsList land whale post here.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Casper the friendly ghost. Just missed your arrival (and delayed in replying) but would like to thank you for saying such a cheerful hello to the others and new arrivals. Very sporting of you.

Your 250K estimate to raise a child to 18 is accurate and I’ve recently read that’s the current figure they stated – just a few months ago. But never mind the cost, it’s the STRESS. I have not been personally flattened or devastated myself, either, and took examples from all around me..,. .but when I think about how much I would be thinking (and worrying) about tomorrow if I had 2 of my own, It would be a little terrifying when stopped at every red light on the way to work.

But they say that passes.

Anyway your friendly tone will be a very welcome thing here. I appreciate it already and have enjoyed your replies.

Hope we’ll connect some more!

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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