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  • #316936
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    Eyeswideopen
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    Just to reiterate what’s been said 1000+ times here – but it finally connected on an emotional level for me a few days ago how GREAT it is to be unattached, and free from the whole cart/draft horse experience of modern marriage and children.

    I met with a good friend, we have known each other for the last 30ish years. We lived down the street from each other, went to grade school, high school and university together. We have kept in touch, but girlfriends and later marriage made that less and less frequent. He is a lifelong friend.

    We both got married around the same time, he had children, I didn’t and was left for a Chad. Ironically, as life is, he never wanted children. I did.

    His girlfriend got pregnant “accidentally” the first time, the second child was planned, and the third was another “accident”. He has done well for himself, the VP corporate executive type.

    He has purchased her a huge house, about 900k, paid it off, and she blows through money like water. Of course she never worked. I see him infrequently because he always is busy with “family obligations”. He works 60-80hrs a week to make ends meet. By contrast, I decrease my work obligations as much as possible.

    A few days ago, I finally managed to wrestle him away for wings and beers. Good to reconnect, not just over the phone. Not 30 minutes into the meal, he has to get up and go – one of his kids vomited. The kid had been eating crap all morning, no surprise. I told him not to worry, tell the wife to put the kid to bed and give him some ginger ale, and to tell her we will be home in an hour or two. Not good enough. In a fit of panic we have to leave because she ” can’t handle it”. We get back and the kid is up and running around like nothing happened – if it even did. She then tries to sweet talk me into finding a good women and having the “wonderful life they have”. I say some nice pleasantries but have to bite my tongue not to say that it’s only a fantastic life for her.

    I don’t blamed my friend. He is trapped. He knows it, acknowledges it, and agrees with the MGTOW concept.He will never have a moments piece and is truly trapped in blue pill hell.

    He has put on a massive amount of weight; we are the same age and he looks 10-15 years older then we are. But, his wife “loves him”…..we have all heard this before.

    When the financial raping comes in about 5 years, their will be a room and beer available for him.

    I feel a little guilt – I am so sad for him, but happy for myself.

    Cheers brothers

    - Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

    #316994
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    Awakened
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    A few days ago, I finally managed to wrestle him away for wings and beers. Good to reconnect, not just over the phone. Not 30 minutes into the meal, he has to get up and go – one of his kids vomited. The kid had been eating crap all morning, no surprise. I told him not to worry, tell the wife to put the kid to bed and give him some ginger ale, and to tell her we will be home in an hour or two. Not good enough. In a fit of panic we have to leave because she ” can’t handle it”. We get back and the kid is up and running around like nothing happened – if it even did

    AWALT. This can be looked at one of two ways. Either she’s your typical jealous controlling bitch, and she just can’t stand letting “HER man” have any time with his friends, or the kid truly was sick and she really is as useless as not being able to handle it. It doesn’t really natter why, because HER man pays the price either way. AWALT

    He has put on a massive amount of weight; we are the same age and he looks 10-15 years older then we are. But, his wife “loves him”…..we have all heard this before.

    When the financial raping comes in about 5 years, their will be a room and beer available for him.

    Unfortunately, your friend sounds like he may not make it another 5 years. He sounds like a prime candidate for coronary issue: overweight, over worked, over stressed etc.

    I feel a little guilt – I am so sad for him, but happy for myself.

    It definitely hurts to see a friend killing himself for a useless women that will undoubtedly have a longer life span at his expense. Hell, he’s probably has a generous life insurance plan as well. It all sucks !!

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #316997
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    K
    Hitman
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    Your in heaven.
    He is in hell.
    Me…purgatory. .
    The insane middle ground of separation and a half finished divorce.
    Better to never have been married. The legal contract with a woman and the state becomes a nightmare. ..so much red tape and ongoing costs. ..I’m at the point where I don’t care if it ever finalizes.
    I have a roof over my head and see my kid 4 days a week. .if I push too hard I can say goodbye to the present situation and it will definitely take a turn for the worst.
    You have it better than me.
    I have it better than your friend.
    I wish him luck. .

    #317004
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    Awakened
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    You have it better than me.
    I have it better than your friend.
    I wish him luck. .

    Ditto……

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #317032
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    Eyeswideopen
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    @awakened.

    You got it. I deal with patients like him all the time – the skinny-fat man look. Pale complexion, huge tire stomach, horrible diet to alleviate stress. Prime candidate for an MI or CVA/TIA. We are both mid 30s – he looks at least 50.

    I work 16-18hr rotation- days, nights, you name it. My job is stressful as well. The wife is the only marked difference. I have a six-pack, I didn’t when married. I lost 40IBS since my divorce.

    Its bulls~~~ that men live longer if married. Living with a woman kills your mind, body and spirit.

    He has a 3 million life insurance policy. This says it all. A draft horse to work into the grave then shoot.

    - Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

    #317036
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    Bigboy83
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    Women are boring
    Dating is boring
    Relationships are boring

    So why torture yourself?

    Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

    #317048
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    Anonymous
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    She then tries to sweet talk me into finding a good women and having the “wonderful life they have”.

    This should make men (single and married) stop dead in their tracks. We often hear women having solipsistic views – beyond their own needs and desires – the world can burn to hell and so long her feelings are comforted, the world is a happy place.

    I believe and I know for a fact now that women are NEVER capable of appreciating the sacrifice a man makes for her. The ability is lacking – and its not due to her evil tendencies – its a woman’s biology.

    The premise of an entire relationship is based on her whims. It sure is beautiful but when the marriage boredom sets in – the same man, same home, same kids – it becomes a loveless and unappreciated marriage for her.

    Women inherently are incapable of being leaders in a relationship. They want to be led. Beta bucks can’t lead. So all that’s left is alpha f~~~s and chucks.

    #317119
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    Awakened
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    Just to reiterate what’s been said 1000+ times here – but it finally connected on an emotional level for me a few days ago how GREAT it is to be unattached, and free from the whole cart/draft horse experience of modern marriage and children.

    I’m pushing 50, and I’m in FAR better shape then your friend. I eat well and exercise 5 times a week . Unfortunately, I’m still married, but I work a normal schedule and psychologically/emotionally divorced the wife years ago. We are still “married”, but we live apart in the same house-limited contact.

    Its bulls~~~ that men live longer if married. Living with a woman kills your mind, body and spirit.

    Absolutely, Most women are pretty useless at the most basic tasks, How the hell can cohabitation extend male lives ? More feminist driven media B.S.

    He has a 3 million life insurance policy. This says it all. A draft horse to work into the grave then shoot.

    His lil cupcake has it all figured out !! Isn’t it so sweet that she wants the same fate for you. I bet she has a sister or friend in mind for you. She’s so f~~~ing thoughtful !!

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #317135
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    Hmskl'd
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    Awhile back, sometimes wondered if my Ghosting and Monk Mode was the right decision? Lots of life going on out there and I’m missing it all. I no longer ask the question. Tonight I will lie back in my lounge chair on my porch and have a favorite cold drink as I watch the sunset. Being alone might not be for everyone; but I made the right choice.

    #317154
    Atton
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    His girlfriend got pregnant “accidentally” the first time

    That was no accident considering the science behind this matter. I would go as far as to said deliberate, this is not the kind of thing that just happens. Considering just how advanced birth control has become and how vast the options are its nuts. Either way just think how free men would be with their own pill.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    #317158
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    Eyeswideopen
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    Awhile back, sometimes wondered if my Ghosting and Monk Mode was the right decision? Lots of life going on out there and I’m missing it all. I no longer ask the question. Tonight I will lie back in my lounge chair on my porch and have a favorite cold drink as I watch the sunset. Being alone might not be for everyone; but I made the right choice.

    I have to agree. A few months ago I struggled with loneliness and wondered if I was giving up on life by not dating. I really, honestly don’t want too. To jump through hoops for maybe a little sex – I can’t be bothered. Any companionship they offer is just an act to try and steal your resources.

    I live the Monk life except when travelling. Travel f~~~ing is easy – alias and little bulls~~~ as their is no chance of a relationship.

    I brew beer, watch war documentaries, hunt and fish in my spare time. I keep active – going for hikes etc.

    All I need is a few good friend and I am set.

    - Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

    #317164
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    Bub
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    When the financial raping comes in about 5 years, their will be a room and beer available for him.

    This is what a true friend does…

    Just rolling down the road

    #317173
    Lone Wolf83
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    Awhile back, sometimes wondered if my Ghosting and Monk Mode was the right decision? Lots of life going on out there and I’m missing it all. I no longer ask the question. Tonight I will lie back in my lounge chair on my porch and have a favorite cold drink as I watch the sunset. Being alone might not be for everyone; but I made the right choice.

    I wondered the exact same thing as you and I know I made the right choice as well. To freedom!!

    If it has tits or tires, you know you're going to have problems.

    #317212
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    Anonymous
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    I used to be in really great shape but have toned it down in recent months. There’s a certain amount of shape for health reasons, but as long as you’re not too much above that I find no real reason for it.

    Enjoy life’s joys in moderation imo.

    #317295
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    Computernerd
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    Every time I’m around other people, they want me to get out and experience socializing more. I say, f~~~ that bulls~~~. I love my solitude and I’d never give it up for other people willingly. I even cut off having new friends for the most part outside of online experiences.

    The only companion I’ll ever need is a dog which I plan on getting in the near future and raising it from a puppy. The majority of people are just crazy and stupid. Dogs are better friends to have than people since they’ll always be loyal to you.

    If I were your friend, I’d end up getting a divorce right away and if it didn’t work out, I’d leave the country. It’s better than the alternative if you’re in that situation to begin with.

    It’s great to be a free man. I get to do what I want when I what which is the best experience life has to offer.

    #317317
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    Prefer Peace to Piece
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    Eyeswideopen-

    Congradulations on the epiphany. Isn’t it great to wake up one day and realize you’re free?

    All of your hard work and years of study have paid off.
    You can now go anywhere and do almost anything you want.

    Without all of the baggage, you could probably retire very early and pursue other interests of you desired.

    Your stress levels are lower and you will live longer.

    Atta boy.

    #317351
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    Eyeswideopen
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    Eyeswideopen-

    Congradulations on the epiphany. Isn’t it great to wake up one day and realize you’re free?

    All of your hard work and years of study have paid off.
    You can now go anywhere and do almost anything you want.

    Without all of the baggage, you could probably retire very early and pursue other interests of you desired.

    Your stress levels are lower and you will live longer.

    Atta boy.

    Thanks for the encouraging words – I agree by the way. ?

    Yes, it was quite an epiphany.
    It has been almost 3 years since my marriage ended.

    I have intellectually accepted the truth about blue pill, red pill, the nature of women, social programming and MGTOW since joining this site in March 2015. Then began a year of red pill rage. That has mostly subsided. I have started to rebuild and discover hobbies, interests, and my away from work identity. This is a ongoing task for me.

    The above interaction was when the emotional aspect finally caught up with the intellectual aspect. The only way I can describe it as a sort of singularity- I was actually happy my marriage dissolved and my wife left. When I saw the ramifications, first hand, of a “loving marriage”, to a dear friend, I realized the bullet I dodged on a deeper level.

    I always knew I dodge a financial bullet by avoid divorce rape, but now I realize I also dodged the prison of the modern day family unit and all its associated repercussions.

    I truly have freedom. If I want to quit my job, sell everything, and live in a shack on the beach, for example, I can. My poor friend cannot even have 30 min for beer and wings. He has at least 20-25 more years of slavery. I could technically retire tomorrow, in my mid 30s, but I would get bored.

    - Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

    #317535
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    Awakened
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    I used to be in really great shape but have toned it down in recent months. There’s a certain amount of shape for health reasons, but as long as you’re not too much above that I find no real reason for it.

    Enjoy life’s joys in moderation imo.

    I’m with you brother. I too have rethought my approach to fitness. I have been extreme at different points in my life in regards to weight lifting, and consider myself fortunate that I haven’t seemed to sustain any significant nagging injuries.
    Now, it’s all about maintaining what I have and focusing on: feeling good, being able to maintain “youthful” mobility, not damaging joints, doing the exercise that I ENJOY and not things that I have been told that I need to do, and having FUN with it !!

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #317546
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    DanceMyOwnWay
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    I’m considering even giving up on casual or long distance relationships in the future. I’m sick and tired of the mind games, attempts to cuck you, what they say meaning the complete opposite. If you assume you’re basically dealing with the devil in a dress you can’t go too far wrong. Is it worth the bulls~~~ for some occasionally pleasant sex and company? And they make s~~~ friends unless they provide some vaguely useful service to your life. Getting married is insanity. And the problem is even the females that are on your side are still so programmed into the hive mind they justify any appalling despicable female behaviour or that they can even remotely understand what it is to be a man in today’s world. There’s always a reason and excuse for their heinous acts. The women who actually love you give a pussy pass to another woman they’ve never even met…

    If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

    #317548
    DanceMyOwnWay
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    And it goes without saying if a guy behaves like the average woman he’s a dirty dog etc (who they complain about but still f~~~). They are so full of s~~~.

    If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

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