Its coming from all angles… (red pill rage?)

[Tea BagParticipant 306]

When I first took the red pill I felt fine, actually felt amazing. A few weeks prior, my friends and family were all telling me that I was not acting like my normal self…like I had become jaded and depressed. Then on November 19th I made my introduction to the forums and the weeks after that I felt better than I had ever felt before. My thoughts were clear and I felt free and happy, never experiencing red pill rage. For those who haven’t read my introduction, I am still very young, 23 years young to be exact. I am also the youngest of 3, both my older sister and older brother are married without kids currently. Enough of my mini biography though.

I’ll just get right to the point. Quite often my family, specifically my parents, express that they hope I find a “nice girl” who will be my wife and I’ll be able to start a family with. My response to this is always “I no longer have interest in getting married.” That is when s~~~ starts to hit the fan. Anyone nearby who hears me utter those “childish” and “pessimistic” words immediately accuses me of simply being immature and always pulling out the “you say that now but you just need to meet the right girl.” How many “right girls” are there though? I read that the red pill follows the same 5 step process as grieving. I never felt denial, I think I’m feeling anger right now and also a little bit of the bargaining phase, I guess I still haven’t fully accepted the red pill yet and I’m worried depression is the stage I’m going to hit next

The past few days my thoughts have all been about girls, and not the MGTOW kind of thoughts. I don’t like to admit it but I’ve been doubting things lately, I guess I am in denial. Any insight will be much appreciated. It seems like this just hit me out of nowhere all at once and I don’t want becoming a MGTOW to just be a phase that I went through in my younger years, I want it to be my life.

No speaky until the man speaky to you.

[Anonymous 54]

It sounds like you were doing fine till every one told you your wrong.

Read about the hell married and divorced guys on here have been through.

One way to shut your family up is to say you just havent met that special nice girl yet. ( there is no such thing. They only pretend to be nice to rope you in)

[Tea BagParticipant 306]

Anonymous wrote:

It sounds like you were doing fine till every one told you your wrong.

Read about the hell married and divorced guys on here have been through.

One way to shut your family up is to say you just havent met that special nice girl yet. ( there is no such thing. They only pretend to be nice to rope you in)

Oh I have been. I guess one of my instincts is “don’t knock until you try”, as silly as that sounds.

No speaky until the man speaky to you.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Don’t feel too bad, TBM, lots of young guys like you have posted being in the same situation. If you are open and honest with your family on how you feel about relationships, then you get kicked around and called names, so it’s best to do what Old Sage said, de-escalate the question by saying you’ve not found the right one.

Hell, I got the treatment from my friends if I so much as hint that I’ve walked away from relationships. And I’m 54. So there you go. Keep MGTOW under your hat until you’re sure you are talking to a man who feels the same way. It makes life much less stressful.

[Anonymous 54]

Tea Bag wrote:

Old Sage wrote:

It sounds like you were doing fine till every one told you your wrong.

Read about the hell married and divorced guys on here have been through.

One way to shut your family up is to say you just havent met that special nice girl yet. ( there is no such thing. They only pretend to be nice to rope you in)

Oh I have been. I guess one of my instincts is “don’t knock until you try”, as silly as that sounds.

When I was younger I think my atittude was that I knew more about women than most guys so I could make it work.Wrong.The problem with trying it is that invovles a contract.

You can be involved with women, but not marry them.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6422]

Tea Bag wrote:

I don’t like to admit it but I’ve been doubting things lately

Unless I’ve had it all wrong for the last ten years, gyow is the most liberating experience that you could ever imagine.
Like I’ve posted before .. and this is only my personal opinion .. a guy choses his own path, whatever that might be, mgtow or gyow is just a method of following that path without anyone stepping in and dictating through either legal or financial constraints how you must live your life.
So here i go again with my island hopping definition ..
whether you choose to island hop across the Carribean (enjoying every beach and watering hole and fun place in the sun along the way – pretty girls and all) or whether you choose, like me, and go for a much more isolated approach avoiding the whole dating scene .. the choice is yours. It’s your path; have great life and go your own way.
If you want to play volleyball with the Beach Girls of Rio, dance ’till you drop at every club starting with the letter G across Europe .. romance every woman who frequents New Cafe Americana in Cassablanca or make it a goal to take a few years (or much of a lifetime) in Monk Mode and Ghost .. the choice is yours. It’s your path. Every guy’s path is good as long as it’s his own.
There should be no depression by charting your own best path and following it. You’re not giving up intimacy or dating if that’s your choice, (your choice!) .. you’re just not letting any woman or her legal beagles determine or decide how you will live your life emotionally or financially. You’re just not signing anything that will trap you and you’re not giving over your life to them and letting them chart your path. If that means five years or thirty years in seclusion enjoying absolute solitude .. or every other week in Las Vegas as a High Roller with all the perks (all of them).. the choice is yours .. and not theirs; ever! Have great journey and toss that depression in the nearest receptacle .. life is too short for that stuff. Now .. back to my movie.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

What the other replies have already said, but also:

No one said you couldn’t enjoy girls. The only person who decides how you should live is you.
If I was 23 I would be banging girls left right and centre, but, I would have a Vasectomy first. I wouldn’t fall for their BS. I wouldn’t get caught up in their mind games and manipulation. I would just enjoy them for as long as I could.

You are free to do as you please. Knowledge sets you free. What you know now to be true will never leave you. Enjoy life, Enjoy women,safe in the knowledge that she can’t make you her victim sucker.

Let your family think that every girl you date might be “The One”. Don’t feel guilty about lieing.

They have been lieing to you about what your role in life should be from day one.

Don’t get mad, get even 🙂

It's Time to get Wise

[Anonymous 54]

Mr. Man wrote:

Hell, I got the treatment from my friends if I so much as hint that I’ve walked away from relationships. And I’m 54. So there you go. Keep MGTOW under your hat until you’re sure you are talking to a man who feels the same way. It makes life much less stressful.

Im 60 and still have to hear it!hah. I ask them, so a 60 yearl old dude doesnt have a girlfriend. What does it matter?
They’er conserned for me. I must be soooooo lonley. They just cant grasp the fact that Im not. I dont get lonley. I dont know what that feels like.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Doubts are normal. The very fact you question things is proof your mind is alert and active. The art of Critical Thinking requires that you doubt, question and inject skepticism. That is the process that reveals truth. Arguments that cannot hold up under scrutiny must be abandoned, those that can hold up you go with all the way.

Its tough at 23, I remember what it was like and Greg’s advice is sound—treat women like a playground but be safe–make sure none violate the inner bastion that is you. They will assault it with all kinds of weapons: e.g. Big Doe eyes, and tears and I love you! and your the only one yadda yadda. You are armed with the knowledge that this is all smoke and mirrors.

I’ve been full monk for over two decades now but thats not to say I wouldn’t if the stars aligned right.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Hey guys,

Just want to say I love this site so much 🙂

All the wisdom available to share and help the young and old alike. Said it before, but, if only this was around when I was 20!

The self doubt and confussion I went through for a decade would never have happened. I wouldn’t have needed to blot it out by getting wasted. I always blamed me for woman problems.

No one told me different. Other guys were competition, sometimes violent competition.

Man I would have had a ball!

Thats what I want for Bull Moose. Be free and have a Ball. 🙂

It's Time to get Wise

[bladeParticipant]

You are young it is normal to have the urge to f~~~ . F~~~ till ya hearts content ,f~~~,f~~~,f~~~ all you want .Two things which we will start with .

number one . ALWAYS USE A RUBBER .

Two .NEVER GIVE A F~~~ WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF YOU OR WANT YOU TO BE ,f~~~ them .

Three .NEVER GET ATTACHED TO A CHICK BECAUSE THESE CREATURES USE EVERY EMOTION AND BULLS~~~ TO REMAIN ATTACHED . They got tears and some f~~~ing heart break story ,there f~~~ing problem they own it not you .

BE YOU WEATHER SPEAKING TO MALE OR FEMALE . BE YOU .F~~~ WHAT ANYONE THINKS . Notice i hsve mentioned this twice .

Also i am going to give you a little tip when it comes to chicks . You know how you speak to ya mates as dudes . Speak to woman the same . Pretend the have dicks and ride a Harley.

Hope all works out class is out.

Good luck from ya unkie BLADE

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[GrumpyParticipant]

IHMO
Saying ” I haven’t met the right one yet” just gives people permission to interfere with your life and decisions.
I have made it abundantly clear to everyone who has ever broached the subject of marriage/relationships where I stand on it.
Short of saying “f~~~ off with that bulls~~~ already” or any other direct statement of displeasure, maybe just saying “I am not interested in it thank you” will suffice.

Honestly, I have enough outside sources picking my pockets for cash and prizes daily. Why would I voluntarily allow someone else to spend my money, waste my time and resources, and irritate the living hell out of me with incessant demands and whining?

I like being happy, no need to screw that up again.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Anonymous 0]

All good advice! Keep doing what you’re doing , Bull Moose
From the book of Proverbs (no I’m going religious)

It is better for a man to live on the corner of a roof than with a contentious woman.

From the book of me:
And as soon as you say “I do” she will say “No, you dont”
It happened to me.

[Oz-BlokeParticipant 3233]

Indeed, as a young MGTOW you are fighting hormones at their peak. By all means f~~~, use condoms you control at all times to avoid getting spermjacked, never marry and never cohabitate, but be ever wary a woman can ruin your life in a heartbeat with a false rape allegation.

#ManOut

[Eric LauderParticipant 12053]

First you have to learn to be deceptive with your family.
Second: girls. Date them. Have sex with them. Have vacations with them.
Just think thrice before starting a cohabitation. Then better to not start a cohabitation.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[Anonymous 1]

Hi brother, first of all, never ever show your MGTOW ideas to other people, and less than all to your family. Some may understand you and accept it, some will hate you for those.

You should understand by now that you live inside of the matrix, most of the men are bluepilled to death, women get advantage of that for many reasons. By going against their ideas(on which they have based their whole lives), you are dangerously putting the truth in front of their eyes, and people hate the truth, they prefer to live in a fantasy world.

I prefer to live in fantasy worlds aswell, but only when it comes to books, movies or videogames. As for the real life I do not like to live like it was all a fantasy story, and that is what love is. A fantasy triggered by chemicals in your brain, a biological plan because your DNA wants to SURVIVE, and your DNA can survive only by mating and reproducing.

People do not want to accept that, because it will make relationships quite boring and less fantasy-like.

Keep your ideas for yourself, keep swallowing redpills until you have a clear view of the world around you, tell people that you have not met “the right one”, and when they push you towards a special snowflake just say “I do not like her, I do not feel anything for her”.
People saw changes in me aswell, and as a response some girls that took advantage of me got very angry after I started to say “no”, because now that I am not manipulable anymore, now that I do not give a s~~~ anymore, all of a sudden I am attractive and they hate that, because they wanted me to be their slave-mangina.
Never again.

[Anonymous 0]

Same things the other guys said:

1) Don’t flaunt your MGTOW ideas. You’re going to get too much pushback from the people around you. People just don’t want to hear it. Just say you’re on hold till you find “your soulmate” or some such bulls~~~.

2) Go ahead and date, just don’t marry. If you f~~~, take appropriate protections as described in the other posts above. Also, stay away from women in the workplace or in college. Women in those two environments really have the power to screw up your life on a whim these days, and they know it. So if you want to date around, meet girls from anyplace *other than* your workplace or college campus.

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Next time ur family wants to take jabs at you, joke about how they should build you a wife to your specifications if they really care. Then they can mail her to you, and you can send her back if you have any issues. What’sva wife if she has no warranty? Its what I do. Everyone laughs and leaves me alone.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

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