Is your state of being MGTOW impacted in any way by what other men do?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Does it really matter what other men do, to impact your state of being MGTOW?  Say you know some guys who decide to go off and get married.  You may think it is stupid, but do you feel betrayed in any way?  In short, does it matter what other men do in regards to your being MGTOW?  If you are impacted, why does it impact you?  Do you feel that each time a man marries, MGTOW is losing a battle?

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[AttonParticipant]

The entire world is connected, a man being abused by a woman sends a pretty clear message to other women. That message is that men don’t have the self respect to defend themselves from violent c~~~s. I put forward that something like that effects the whole of society, when men aren’t willing to enforce there rights then that effects all men.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[RuprectParticipant 56]

It’s in the name, man …. Men Going Their OWN Way.  What others (women OR men) do with their own lives means little to me.  When what they are planning on doing or legislating directly affects me and mine, that’s a different story.

[FermatParticipant 3478]

The joy of being MGTOW for me is not that don’t care, its that I no longer feel obliged to care what other men are doing. Sometimes if the men in your life are going down routes that don’t compute to you, it’s best to move on without them with no hard feelings. In fact, watching other men parrot what society wants actually fuels my MGTOW belief even further because all marriage, cohabitaion, sexual deviance, adultery, pick up culture you name it is just a parroting of what society wants to keep us ignorant of the bigger picture. I feel sorry for men who are caught up in this but certainly I am not impacted by it. God has a plan for each one of us and sometimes people have to go through trials and pains to see the bigger picture. Women want men to have tunnel vision. I don’t think that’s God’s plan for most men, but who am I know His will? I don’t feel betrayed if my friends go off to shack with women. Once crap hits the fan, they will turn to you the rational male to guide them through. I consider that an honor, as long as it doesn’t stall my life progress. Each time a man marries, it’s just a testament of MGTOW in the making. Those testaments will be stories that will mean more to the future blue pill population than the rest of us MGTOW who never married.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[WallyParticipant]

What other men do does not impact my state of MGTOW, however I felt a kinship with the men on here once I discovered this website.  I was sitting at the dog park yesterday with my best friend and we talked about his divorce 20 some odd years ago and he said in the state of Texas the husband is responsible for 100% of the ex wife’s debt but the wife bears no responsibility for the ex husbands.  He didn’t find out till the divorce.  I feel sad for guys that get married as I’m sure most of us do, but truth to be told there really is no battle anymore.  We walked away from that once we became MGTOW.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Lone Sea VoyagerParticipant 506]

I do not give a s~~~ if the entire population of men start telling me that I am wrong and that I should allow myself to be walked over by women like a herd of sheep, because no matter what, i’m not going to be a part of that herd.

Let me ask you something. If everyone is jumping into a pit of fire, are you going to do it too? Are you??!

It’s common sense, something that women and blue-pillers just don’t have. And I don’t care how many men are blue-pilled chumps, i’m not going to let it affect me enough to chunk my common sense away and set myself up for financial suicide.

When a brilliant man realized that the world may actually be round, and not flat, he didn’t give a s~~~ if people attacked him for believing the truth. Instead of letting it impact him, he went out and PROVED that it was round. He didn’t cower down and let delusional people impact him.

There is no question about this. NO, I am not being impacted by the idiotic masses of society, and neither should you. I have no problem being around other men, but as soon as they start criticizing me for not being a chump, out the door they go.

Don’t let blue-pillers affect you. Affect them.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

On a personal level .. no. Culturally … yes.

What other men do … or more to the point … don’t do … will have consequences for the future … and not in a good way.

I’m talking blue pill men … the majority.

[heads-upParticipant 320]

NO?

[ApplejackSpectator 235]

I know many people my age that have married or are in LTR’s.  But I know more people my age that aren’t in a relationship and never plan to be.  The world is waking up to MGTOW.  They may not call it that, but men everywhere are learning that women just don’t offer any benefit to them.  I’ve tried to save several friends, who have rejected my advice and then confessed to me later that they wish they had taken my advice and not gotten involved with her/married her.  But they’re kind of stuck and don’t know what to do.  You get trapped.  It’s not fun.

[FitzBonesParticipant 304]

No. I am me. I’ve never followed the crowds or bowed my head to peer pressure. I admit I have times where I slip in and out of habitually checking MGTOW but when I find myself slipping into old thought processes of LTR etc. I’ll swing back to mgtow and remind myself why its such a bad idea, and keep trying to keep myself regular here.
Think with the big head folks, trust it

"If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance run,"

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Part of this question is personal with me.  I am at a place where I am about to not give a rip about even the “MGTOW” label, just my long-term happiness.  What I see around MGTOW, YouTube channels mainly is that there is a sense of betrayal if someone seeming to claim a MGTOW label to end up doing Blue Pill stuff.  At my age, my odds of finding a NAWALT is like next to zero, so I am trying to live like that.  I am trying to get a job and a career, or a business (I lost work again), and I want a freakin’ life.  I am taking a break from MGTOW channel I have to sort through things, but it is get a damn life for me.  I am getting severe burnout from seeing “no women are like that” and trying to calculate percentages, balance what the world thinks about things, pick up pieces, and get a damn life.  I am tired and burnt out of a lot of things.  I am on welfare, and I see others under the MGTOW banner wanting to gut that to death, because they are tired of paying for leeches.  I am seeing Donald Trump canonized as some sort of MGTOW saint, and a bunch of other things I consider complete and utterly total bulls~~~.  The thing is, even if I were looking to go Blue Pill, Blue Pill only works for men who have utility in society and can serve systems.  If you seen as useless, you are disposed of by society.  And I have my own narrative, and it is myself as MGTOW, because it is what I am now.  I attempt to choose things for empowerment, but it is brutally hard.

In all this I am feeling like a fake here. I have no idea how to find my own way, and have to even wear a label of this or that, even MGTOW. I am just trying to live.  And I am deciding what to do with the YouTube channel.  I need to get something out of life, and not just pay it forward.  I see part of MGTOW as not fitting anywhere, and I don’t even feel like I fit in MGTOW now, as if it is anything.  And I refuse to try to turn it into some sort of religion or cult that I have to safeguard and keep “Da wimmin, Manginas, Blue Pill, white knights, the BBC, ABC, Do Ray Me, etc…” out.  As of now, I need stuff to help and get my sanity.  I don’t need to keep paying it forward. I am burnt out.

Yes, I lost a job I had again. I feel shame, and am in shock.  I need stuff, I need to get resources, not be drained and discarded.  I need to bargain better.  And I don’t need to try to placate this list of acceptability, and feel that what I do is going to cause shock and ire by those I only know by a label.

Well, I better get to sleep. I am just fed up now.  I am tired of talking here. I need a life damn it.

 

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

I stopped caring what other men do.

Focus on yourself.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6413]

Living a fairly isolated rural existence in a remote and nontraditional setting,  I can’t see my lifestyle (gmow) directly affected by the decisions other guys make or whatever relationship path they may choose to follow.  Over time, I suppose that social changes (related to marriage or divorce trends, etc) occuring in the outside world might possibly affect my tax bill; something that would have a more immediate impact.

[BDParticipant 1146]

Zuberi Tau wrote:

I stopped caring what other men do.

Short and sweet ZT. Exactly. 

Zuberi Tau wrote:

Focus on yourself.

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

Since i know that.odds.of  marriages and all that.i.just think.to myself when i see blue.pill and manginas with their wife i said thanks god that aint me, my freedom have no.prices and.i love.it when i want vagina i just.pay a profesional call girl and when.i want to fool around a.plane ticket this.is that.life freedom

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

You know how good.its feel to be able to do whatever you want??that.my friend have no.prices most.of thoses marriages you see aint happy i see.it all.that time.on that street marriages become a routine and women never happy why bother??the.nagging that bullcrap lol.il pass i rather die single and free than dying as an slave.of some women ,plus what does women.have to.offer beside their vagina???nothing i just f~~~ them pretty.much.i use them thats.it

[RoyDalParticipant]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Does it really matter what other men do, to impact your state of being MGTOW?

Not really.

I have compassion for the suffering of others, men and women both. It is just that I am not willing to sacrifice myself for anyone else’s cause. History ebbs and flows like a tide, and I cannot stem its movements. Individuals do foolish things, and I cannot talk them out of it.

I can go my own way, and I can support others who chose to do so. Therefore, I do what I can and do my best to stay out of the way of the rest.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Part of this question is personal with me. I am at a place where I am about to not give a rip about even the “MGTOW” label, just my long-term happiness. What I see around MGTOW, YouTube channels mainly is that there is a sense of betrayal if someone seeming to claim a MGTOW label to end up doing Blue Pill stuff. At my age, my odds of finding a NAWALT is like next to zero, so I am trying to live like that. I am trying to get a job and a career, or a business (I lost work again), and I want a freakin’ life. I am taking a break from MGTOW channel I have to sort through things, but it is get a damn life for me. I am getting severe burnout from seeing “no women are like that” and trying to calculate percentages, balance what the world thinks about things, pick up pieces, and get a damn life. I am tired and burnt out of a lot of things. I am on welfare, and I see others under the MGTOW banner wanting to gut that to death, because they are tired of paying for leeches. I am seeing Donald Trump canonized as some sort of MGTOW saint, and a bunch of other things I consider complete and utterly total bulls~~~. The thing is, even if I were looking to go Blue Pill, Blue Pill only works for men who have utility in society and can serve systems. If you seen as useless, you are disposed of by society. And I have my own narrative, and it is myself as MGTOW, because it is what I am now. I attempt to choose things for empowerment, but it is brutally hard. In all this I am feeling like a fake here. I have no idea how to find my own way, and have to even wear a label of this or that, even MGTOW. I am just trying to live. And I am deciding what to do with the YouTube channel. I need to get something out of life, and not just pay it forward. I see part of MGTOW as not fitting anywhere, and I don’t even feel like I fit in MGTOW now, as if it is anything. And I refuse to try to turn it into some sort of religion or cult that I have to safeguard and keep “Da wimmin, Manginas, Blue Pill, white knights, the BBC, ABC, Do Ray Me, etc…” out. As of now, I need stuff to help and get my sanity. I don’t need to keep paying it forward. I am burnt out. Yes, I lost a job I had again. I feel shame, and am in shock. I need stuff, I need to get resources, not be drained and discarded. I need to bargain better. And I don’t need to try to placate this list of acceptability, and feel that what I do is going to cause shock and ire by those I only know by a label. Well, I better get to sleep. I am just fed up now. I am tired of talking here. I need a life damn it.

Get some sleep … a long sleep. Then come back and talk it through if you feel up to it.

Taking time out is no bad thing …. and I would say a very positive move.

Your life and path is far a country mile … more important than this site.

Know we are with you and if help can be offered … we will try.

Please just remember to reach out if you feel desperate or unmanageable pressure.

You are important to us and we hope we can return some of your dedication.

Take great care of yourself.

[Jon the Ex-SquidParticipant 298]

Occasionally via other men I deal with for work. I don’t announce that I’m a MGHOW or wear it on a shirt. But married men do not like single men for all the reasons of which most folks on here are aware. So sometimes its impacts my work or social life, but it doesn’t effect me the minute I get in my truck and head home. Usually the high pitch man-whining is worst when I get back from a vacation or mention some expensive purchase (paid in cash).

The opposite effect holds true as well: a few guys have approached me pre- or post-divorce. That’s purely a social impact in the sense that I’m taking my time to help them with advice.

But overall? Nope. This is a personal lifestyle independent of anyone else.

[The Long WalkParticipant 1282]

A friend of mine is one of the main reasons I’ve gone MGTOW.  I won’t go into detail, but he went to prison in the 90s on a false rape allegation, and everybody knew it was false (chick was a total slut, parents found out so she cried rape), but down he went anyway.  Then when he got out of prison and some stability began to return to his life, he met a women and decided to settle down.  Because NAWALT, right?  No.

A couple of kids later she kicks him out of his own house because she’d been caught cheating.  She then proceeded to throw all sorts of allegations at him, weaponised his own kids against him, so he doesn’t even have contact with them anymore, and to top it all off he gets to pay her for the pleasure.  The guy’s a total wreck, a husk of his former self.  His family was his life.  I feel so sorry for him.

So yeah.  MGTOW.

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