Is there currently enough money for everyone?

[AscendedParticipant 698]

Because I sure as hell doubt it.

I’m looking at the market, jobs, their income, their duties and required efforts… and to me it seems like they’re all insufficiently paying. They are not so different in terms of income, unless it involves discomforting conditions such as night shifts or overworking or if it impacts your health in a negative way.

I am currently full time working. My income is just a little higher than my expenses and that’s it.
My current income covers just these: Rent for apartment, enough food, internet. That’s it. I get about $50-$100(maximum compact and economy) leftover for the remainder of the month when all the above expenses are made.

Then I look at the people, who are dating, getting married, raise kids and pay for their college. They *somehow* manage it if the income is so ridiculously low? First… dating would take away about as much as the leftovers for the month, so that would be as much as one or two dates a month. Then the wedding is one of the most expensive things to afford. Raising children adds another person to take care of and supply financially too for not any less than 18 years. Don’t get me started at the price the family has to pay if the graduated child attends years-lasting college and moves into a dormitory.
Seems selfless to me.

Furthermore, I don’t own a property or a car and a license too. I really have a hard time figuring out how some people manage to do it, when the income is so low. So I don’t even have to see why make expenses to something, that doesn’t grant you a permanent roof and a steady supply of money to buy food (because one day we all become old and grey) so you can take care of your very own if all the world has turned their back against YOU.

It’s almost like a favourite tradition of humanity.
I don’t think there’s enough money for 8 billion people in all the world, so their basic human needs and security are met.

Conclusion: The only way to live well is by yourself. You can’t have enough money to afford nice things and food if you’re going to marry or have kids. Everyone’s on their own today. Either deal with it or stop crying, bitch.

"We are free to follow our own path. There are those who will take that freedom from us, and too many of you gladly give it. But it is our ability to choose – whatever you think is true – that makes us human. There is no book or teacher to give you the answers, to show you the path. Choose your own way! Do not follow me, or anyone else."

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

i live frugally so i do have enough money despite average income. also MGTOW helps me save lots of money

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[WallyParticipant]

The gorilla in the room is the massive debt most people are racking up, that is how they are “managing it.”

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[mp357Participant 531]

i agree. essentially we live in a debt based economy. eveything based on paying back loans and paying interest into old age and eventually death. when people say they manage they manage with visa, mastercard, amex etc. i dont kno how it all ended up here but somehow in all our “prosperity” society forgot you cant just scrape by month to month on credit. i currently just barely get by , the thought that some people are also paying into the whole marriage thing it just doesnt make sense

[BeeParticipant 700]

When I was single, I made about 30,000 a year. Even at that income, my expenses were barely above 50% of my income. It was almost to the point I could bank one of the two paychecks I got a month. And I was happy back then with my simple life.

Fifteen years later, married, house, one child, nothing is enough. I’ve made more than double my starting salary and still accrued debt. The only way i can explain this in my mind is lifestyle improved and there is not much economy of scale. As a single person it took 20,000 to live. Head of household of three it now takes 60,000. I’m not getting much financial help from my wife, therefore it costs 3x as much to live.

If you really count everything expected of a middle class lifestyle – house, two cars, retirement, health care, daycare – it takes probably 100k to support that, more than middle income.

[FuckMeSpectator 215]

Icecold stated “I am currently full time working. My income is just a little higher than my expenses and that’s it.
My current income covers just these: Rent for apartment, enough food, internet. That’s it. I get about $50-$100(maximum compact and economy) leftover for the remainder of the month when all the above expenses are made”.

Strong post, thank you for sharing!! Your doing a great job, hang in there and keep food on YOUR table first, if we aren’t strong ourselves we can’t help anyone else. Billions of people are in your situation, as you already outlined. Many people “do it” as in having a higher income by taking an education they don’t really need or want, to get a job they don’t really want to go to, to buy THINGS they don’t really have to have, to try and make people love them when they don’t love themselves. Learning to say NO to the masses is our first defense…NO to debt is the most critical, or at least very responsibly!! Much strength and courage to you… ~ Bubba 🙂

You think Chernobyl was bad? Wait until the ink drys on that marriage contract you just signed...we know, you just wanted sex and fun...you could have gotten that for $100.00 a couple times a month instead of DESTROYING your life!!!

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

@bee.

Some points:
Having a wife is not like having an extra man. A wife needs make up, new clothes all the time, shoes!!!, etc. Then there is the new drapes, those little rings that go on the napkins, new matching towels for the bathroom, what ever her friends tell her she should have.

Men are providers, women are consumers.

Why isn’t your wife pitching in? is she a SAHM, is she sick, etc. if she isn’t adding to your life she is subtracting from it. ROI.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

I can happily sustain myself financially, a family would be out of the question.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

It almost feels conspiratorial. Set wages and cost of living such that 2 incomes are necessary. That means marriage or cohabitation. You have to find ways of making more and spending less.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Ascended wrote:

Is there currently enough money for everyone?

Short answer: no.

This is why I hate the cuck Bernie Sanders being president. He thinks he can distribute the money from the rich to the poor, disregarding how the rich became the rich and the poor became the poor. He can also disregard capital flight. The people who’ve earned their money can go elsewhere to keep their money.

Unless you have a special case, you are at fault for how much money is in your possession.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I’m kind of looking for a good challenge to see how much money I can stash just from changing my behavior.

This is the way to do it! Shaving a few hundred bucks a month off your budget is literally the same as getting a raise for that same amount. Most people get caught up on the whole making more money thing while they blow massive amounts on dumb s~~~…a fat salary doesn’t mean anything if you aren’t saving any. Living frugally is the ultimate path to freedom! I could blow all my money on stuff that in 20 years I won’t even remember buying, or in 20 years I could be chilling on the beach laughing at all the suckers still punching a clock because they wanted stuff.

The Moth Attracted to the Flame wrote:

This is why I hate the cuck Bernie Sanders being president. He thinks he can distribute the money from the rich to the poor, disregarding how the rich became the rich and the poor became the poor. He can also disregard capital flight. The people who’ve earned their money can go elsewhere to keep their money.

I agree with you, this guy is evil. Trump was getting bashed for his tax plan because it would “cut revenue by 9 trillion over the next decade.” Bernie wants to increase spending by 17 trillion over the next decade and all the liberal idiots don’t bat an eye. We’d have to raise taxes by double what Trump proposed cutting them by just for his extra spending to be deficit neutral…plus he’s talking about growing government, not shrinking it, so taxes would have to go up even more on top of that if he even had the slightest intention of covering the current deficit we are running.

The whole government redistribution of wealth thing p~~~es me off. If they want to help the little guys, give us a bigger standard deduction…let the first 30,000 everyone earns be tax free and scale up the brackets from there so people have more incentive to take lower paying jobs…but jesus f~~~ stop paying people for doing nothing, and stop giving tax credits to people who aren’t even paying income taxes to begin with(like illegals!), and stop rewarding people for bad choices who aren’t even trying to help themselves, and that’s all Bernie wants to do.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Here’s an interesting article:

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2015/02/23/study-suggests-1-in-3-americans-flirting-with-financial-disaster

I can’t speak for the rest of the world, but here in America, millions of middle class Americans are using credit cards to get by. And over 40 million Americans use government-issued EBT cards for groceries and other expenses. The article stated that Americans accumulated about 888 billion dollars worth of credit card debt in 2014. Imagine what $888,000,000,000 looks like with stacks of $100 bills piled up. Then consider the interest that the banks are making on this debt!

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

I have no debts to speak of. I stopped using credit in 1996 and never looked back. House and cars are mine. No alimony or child support. I can live cheap because the things I do don’t cost much.
The problem is that, if things get too bad, the government will confiscate holdings from those that have them, and it won’t just be the “rich”. As soon as a wealth tax is voted in by the freeloaders it will start. It’s already on the way in some countries.

"I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

[hollowtipsParticipant 681]

Debt will get you from university, marriage, a car or buying a house. If you don’t have any of these things your completely free. Even if you are barely making enough to pay for everything every month is you safe defensively in a year 100 dollars month is 1200$. The more money you save the easier it becomes to make more money.

More young men need to be making their own businesses instead of kissing ass to the man and being a slave for someone else, making them rich. I live in Canada and working full time minimum wage I can make about 800$ every 2 weeks. Put in perspective if you had business selling cookies for 10 dollars a container and you sold 3 containers an hour you’d be making 30 bucks an hour.

Seems feasible enough right. Convince 3 people in an hour to spend 10 bucks isn’t outrageous especially if the cookies are decent. Yet you’d suddenly be making 240$ a day or 2400$ every 2 weeks for selling f~~~ing cookies. In a month you’d be making about 5 grand and in a year you’d be making about 58 grand.

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