Is there anything a women could bring to the table that is valuable?

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  • #661077
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    Hadenough1969
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    and might make it worth an interaction?

    I have been trying to think of something and can’t. Just trying to come up with a logical reason to pair up. The only reason (and it is illogical) is because we are without reasoning ability when the sexual hormones are flowing through out bodies

    Is that the only reason men ever engaged with women historically?

    #661081
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    Remove me!
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    I don’t know, one side of a one sided argument?

    Is this something sort of riddle?

    Like a bird on the wire, like a drunk midnight choir, I have tried in my way to be free.

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    Wally
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    For a relationship?

    No

    I’m not trying to be negative about it, when I was in a relationship she was a decent person but like all women she as trying to change me, that’s not good. I was relieved when I broke it off.

    Not saying there are no good things but can’t think what they might be so it’s a negative sum game.

    "what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

    #661112
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    A good question ultimately. I’m pretty sure your question is the reason for the commandment of “cleave unto each other, go forth and multiply”. After original sin, God knew that women were at best “difficult”. Look at all the verses that decry women. One, I can’t remember where it is, says “it’s better to live alone in the desert than to be with a disagreeable woman. I’m thinking that the conditioning that I’ve gone through was so complete that the answers so obvious eluded me to catastrophic ends.

    For in much wisdom is much grief, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.

    #661119
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    It is amazing how no matter how decent they seem, that core nature always comes out. It just takes time…it almost seems like they are not even aware of it. But, it happens anyway.

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    Anonymous
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    Vagina.

    #661129
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    Hadenough1969
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    VCT….I had that same brainwashing. Religion and church was used to blue pill me for more than 1/2 my life…to those same disastrous ends.

    What I am seeing now for the very first time is that “true nature” of women that is a real pain in the ass at best and simply terrifying at worst. Even the best NAWALT still requires the man to stay on his guard, stay tough, and push against the nature because it never goes away. They always want something more. They always want you to do something. It is incredible once you start to see through the matrix.

    Through much study and work I have learned how to deal with it, but now I am questioning, “why bother?” I have been trying to think of anything they can bring to the table that would make it worth the struggle. I guess it used to be kinda of worth it for the sex, but now nearing 50 all the women in their 40s are so flabby, lose and ugly that they can’t even arouse me.

    I am actually starting to think that “monk” might be a real option…I never truly thought it would be and it scares me to say it, but my logical brain can come to no other conclusion given the current state of our society.

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    money.

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    Old Rottweiler
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    Sure, money, a career like a doctor, companionship, love.

    Usually those women will only marry up.

    A rich widow? I know two of them, they will never marry again, women are smarter than men.

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    It'sallbs
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    No, they offer nothing.

    http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

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    MattNYC
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    I disagree w/some of the guys here. Take it for what it’s worth.

    Women bring things to the table, sure, but at large cost & risk. You can get those things less expensively & with less risk without a wife/gf.

    Women are soft, smell good, can cook/clean etc – yes, those things bring a certain value to my life. But if you’re in a relations~~~ those positive qualities come at a huge cost (divorce, cohabiting & paying all of the bills, paying for dates), and risk (false rape allegation, false DV allegation, spermjacking to name a few).

    You’ll get a better deal outsourcing, just like companies do when they fire fulltime employees & hire contractors instead – less total cost, less risk.

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    BritGHOW
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    Women bring only two things of value to the table, namely sex and their half of the reproduction cycle. The value of those two things depends entirely on the values you ascribe to them balanced against the costs to obtain them.

    Anything else that would typically have been done by the woman in a tradcon relations~~~ can be done just as easily and usually better by a man.

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    No women will ever even contemplate the idea of having a relationship with you if she can lose in the long game.

    Exception is the con man who is a powerful charming snake. The thrill makes her Gina tingle.

    But a women who is economically superior will Never consider a serius relationship with a lower status normal men.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

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    TaxGuy
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    Anything valuable they COULD bring to the table? Sure. Love, loyalty, companionship, being a nice person to be around. They COULD bring a ton of things to the table. It’s just that most women choose not to. They expect their Prince Charming, but they don’t act like the princess that he chooses.

    You can’t expect a Disney Prince unless you act like a Disney Princess.

    The honest truth is you can get all those things from good friends. They only thing you can’t get from your good friends is sex. They COULD offer everything a best friend brings to the table AND sex, but instead they use the fact that you want sex to force you into a trade off. What are YOU willing to trade in terms of your expectations of her in order to get in her pants? And whatever you are willing to tolerate in order to get in her pants you will get.

    Order the good wine

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    Not really. UNLESS you base your self worth on the attention of a , and we all know how worthless that is. She was and never will be yours. It is just your turn. And I guess t~~~ and a meat-hole.

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    Coolbreeze
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    Yes I can think of one- humility. If you look at the successful 5% of marriages where both partners are happy you notice that the woman has surrendered the arrogance and replaced it with a desire and respect for the man who she relies on for whatever value he is adding to her life.
    Most women were never taught how to do that which is why it’s so easy to say AWALT but in my mind I know better. I also know that from my many failed relationships that a unicorn could fall out of the sky and knock me unconscious and I still would not trust it.

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    Freedom
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    I think that we can see very well in the way they treat their friends that the answer is no.

    you can’t have a friendship with someone who is too occupied with himself and doesn’t care about anyone, not of her family.
    I will admit that usually, women are better offsprings than men because they tend to help them more, but when it comes to relationships with people other than their kids and parents, they are plain selfish.

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    Other than the obvious,
    A fairly good mood on a regular basis.

    But I never found it.

    Oh yeah lady lurkers, it was allllll my fault.hahahhh

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    ~BS
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    I disagree w/some of the guys here. Take it for what it’s worth.

    Women bring things to the table, sure, but at large cost & risk. You can get those things less expensively & with less risk without a wife/gf.

    Women are soft, smell good, can cook/clean etc – yes, those things bring a certain value to my life.

    You’ll get a better deal outsourcing, just like companies do when they fire fulltime employees & hire contractors instead – less total cost, less risk.

    You are assuming that she chooses to bring those qualities to the table. the modern feminist woman feels those things are all beneath her, except for maybe the soft part, landwhales got that covered.

    "He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

    #661202
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    Coolbreeze
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    the modern feminist woman feels those things are all beneath her

    This is exactly why this whole discussion, although admirable, is for naught. They don’t play the game to tie- they go for the win. And the only way they win is when you lose. But these f~~~ing idiots don’t have the foresight to see what it’s doing to families on a large scale because skirting blame to save face is all they can do anymore.

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