Is the MGTOW community a separatist movement

[PhilandryParticipant 538]

MGTOW is not a movement. Mgtow is a reaction.
If you touch a hot stove your hand retracts automatically to prevent injury.
If you come in contact with the gynocentric environment you retract completely to avoid the effects of toxicity.
Simple.

Being a man is incredible good luck. Do not waste it on the unlucky.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Movement as far away from the state as possible. If women are attached to the state I guess they float away with it like an iceberg.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Philandry wrote:

Mgtow is a reaction.

That’s another important question. Are we just a group reacting to the new laws and rules of society? If the laws changed back would we dissolve the idea of going our own way?

Or, as I believe, we are a group that has discovered or rediscovered our freedom after being programmed to think there are such rules as you must marry, have a house, and have a child to be considered successful?

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

I agree with KeyMaster and Morlock.

I do not think that MGTOW is a Movement, because MGTOW Men do not engage in marches/protests. For me, MGTOW is a Life-Style Choice, a Passive Dis-Engagement/Resistance, a Sane-Male Reaction to the Modern Gyno-Centrist Society, a non-confrontational/peaceful manner in which men can re-claim their male sovereignty and live as woman-free as possible.

I think what annoys women is:
1. MGTOW Men are Going Their Own Way;
2. MGTOW Men are not giving women any argument/fight (because Feminists/women want an argument/fight, i.e. women thrive on drama).
Of course, in terms of [2], a MGTOW Man will fight for what is rightfully his, but beyond this, when he has got his freedom and his stuff (or whatever stuff he is going to get from society/women), he will not fight anymore, and this drives women crazy, because they cannot live without drama.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Philandry wrote:

Mgtow is a reaction.

That’s another important question. Are we just a group reacting to the new laws and rules of society? If the laws changed back would we dissolve the idea of going our own way?

Or, as I believe, we are a group that has discovered or rediscovered our freedom after being programmed to think there are such rules as you must marry, have a house, and have a child to be considered successful?

Probably both, it depends by the individual.
Example:
* No palimony / common law marriage, for cohabitations
* No Duluth Model / misandry / “always believe the woman”, for accusations of domestic violence: a real gender-neutral and balanced approach.
* Paper abortion / financial abortion for men.

I don’t see why I should be prejudicely against cohabitation on such grounds.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

sjt1975 wrote:

I agree with KeyMaster and Morlock.

I do not think that MGTOW is a Movement, because MGTOW Men do not engage in marches/protests. For me, MGTOW is a Life-Style Choice, a Passive Dis-Engagement/Resistance, a Sane-Male Reaction to the Modern Gyno-Centrist Society, a non-confrontational/peaceful manner in which men can re-claim their male sovereignty and live as woman-free as possible.

I think what annoys women is:
1. MGTOW Men are Going Their Own Way;
2. MGTOW Men are not giving women any argument/fight (because Feminists/women want an argument/fight, i.e. women thrive on drama).
Of course, in terms of [2], a MGTOW Man will fight for what is rightfully his, but beyond this, when he has got his freedom and his stuff (or whatever stuff he is going to get from society/women), he will not fight anymore, and this drives women crazy, because they cannot live without drama.

It isn’t that they cannot live without drama, it’s that without fight they cannot use their societal power, that is winning all the fights using victimhood.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

Eric Lauder wrote:

sjt1975 wrote:

I agree with KeyMaster and Morlock.

I do not think that MGTOW is a Movement, because MGTOW Men do not engage in marches/protests. For me, MGTOW is a Life-Style Choice, a Passive Dis-Engagement/Resistance, a Sane-Male Reaction to the Modern Gyno-Centrist Society, a non-confrontational/peaceful manner in which men can re-claim their male sovereignty and live as woman-free as possible.

I think what annoys women is:
1. MGTOW Men are Going Their Own Way;
2. MGTOW Men are not giving women any argument/fight (because Feminists/women want an argument/fight, i.e. women thrive on drama).
Of course, in terms of [2], a MGTOW Man will fight for what is rightfully his, but beyond this, when he has got his freedom and his stuff (or whatever stuff he is going to get from society/women), he will not fight anymore, and this drives women crazy, because they cannot live without drama.

It isn’t that they cannot live without drama, it’s that without fight they cannot use their societal power, that is winning all the fights using victimhood.

In that sentence, I meant purely in terms of fighting being drama/dramatic, not in terms of what the fighting is about or in terms of how the fighting is done.

[PhilandryParticipant 538]

If everything went back to a patriarchy, I would still be absent from it.
The patriarchy is what brought us feminism and it can happen over and over again until destruction is complete.

Being a man is incredible good luck. Do not waste it on the unlucky.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Are people who don’t eat at McDonalds because it’s overpriced and tastes s~~~ty a “movement”? Are they “separatists”? Of course not. They’re merely discerning.

As are MGTOW.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

And the monkeys still haven’t figured out that mgtow isn’t even a movement!

[Cú ChulainnParticipant 3910]

MGTOW is an individual vanishing act, how invisible you want to be is entirely up to each man.

[DocParticipant]

We are not a separatist movement but I can see why the ignorant perceive us that way.

What we appear to be doing is non-cooperation.
We are doing that collectively despite each and everyone of us doing it alone and individually.

We -on the inside – understand this but those looking in just don’t get it.

We are MGTOW Because we came here.

We came here because we are MGTOW.

Leave the critics in ignorance. To misunderstand us is a weapon in our arsenal.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

We all must decide individually if we are separating from society. I was totally stealth in my status living in tents, campers and my truck so as to not even have a single monthly public utilities bill. I worked for my needs only. Then was arrested had 1600$ taken and told by the state authorities I was impoverished or as they call it indigent. People at the poverty level live in houses with water and electricity. I lived a primitive lifestyle but was taking care of myself without government assistance. They have no idea what civility is. Men are suppose to be diplomatic and resort to force as a last resort. I am more civilized than the civil authorities, but they look at the way I live and underestimate my intellect. Poverty level is a step up for a man like me. I do not measure success by how much money I have. But by how much I may help others. I was a total separatist from an uncivilized society, but coming back to teach civility to some authorities.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

Not a movement, we are vapor. We do and do not exist at the same time. A bit of asymmetrical warfare, in order to spread the truth. We all have our own personal agendas, mine is to forewarn the younger generations to avoid the consumer debt based middle-class plantation – which they want to en cult young men into. The ideal family unit died in the 1960’s, everything since has been an inferior imitation put forth by feminism. However, even though they can support themselves, the divorce and family courts want them to get a pussy pass still as if it’s 1950. For any forum noob who has never seen the movie “They Live”, that cheesy flick should be required watching for all MGTOW.

Sovereignty above all else.

[AntaresParticipant 208]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

That’s another important question. Are we just a group reacting to the new laws and rules of society? If the laws changed back would we dissolve the idea of going our own way?

You can change the laws back, you can’t change society and civilization back. I’m not sure if I’d want a traditional woman as they were in the past because I’ve never really met one (that wasn’t an old lady). I do know I want nothing to do with modern women. Only they can change what they’ve turned into, and it doesn’t look like they’re doing that any time soon. Also the division of labor has collapsed, meaning most domestic chores a woman used to do have been automated to the point of trivial time required. As far as needing or wanting a woman, they don’t have a lot going for them, regardless of the legal system screwing men.

Price is what you pay, value is what you get. -- Ben Graham

[the roadParticipant 3125]

I don’t care what they say. I don’t care if it’s a movement or not. I don’t care how they try to paint us.

I am not going to get shamed back to the plantation. F~~~ them all. It’s my f~~~ing time and money. I’m not giving to any bitch. F~~~ you to the bitches, earn your own. Slimey f~~~s.

#MANOUT

[Golgotha777Participant 326]

sjt1975 wrote:

I agree with KeyMaster and Morlock.

I do not think that MGTOW is a Movement, because MGTOW Men do not engage in marches/protests. For me, MGTOW is a Life-Style Choice, a Passive Dis-Engagement/Resistance, a Sane-Male Reaction to the Modern Gyno-Centrist Society, a non-confrontational/peaceful manner in which men can re-claim their male sovereignty and live as woman-free as possible.

It seems to be a natural reaction to an unnatural state. Passive Resistance I entirely agree.

Most men don’t wish to live as slaves.

[AttonParticipant]

I think philosophy is a better description of MGTOW.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[firstblood85Participant 111]

I don’t understand why so many of you still pay attention to media.

[Anonymous 3]

Keymaster wrote:

When they drop the word “movement” they can expect to be corrected.
It’s an individual lifestyle choice – very grounded in reality.

Agree

Freeman_K wrote:

mgtow is just a rational response to the perverse society

Totally agree I only participate in those things that serve my own interests & I am totally unapologetic about it. I do not compromise my position even if I am in the company of women or in the Blue Pill world. I set my own terms & I stick to them. That is how i live the MGTOW life

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