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As far as i can see, mangina is just a name for a certain type of coward. We’ve had plenty of terms for that over the years, yella, pussy, spineless, craven, cretin, wuss, snitch, whatever, they all carry with them a slightly different context and connotation. The plethora of wonderfully descriptive words is what makes the english language so interesting and there are none more powerful than pejorative words, and i do believe that MGTOW needs a pejorative word, for the same reason that “misogynist” has become such a powerful word over the decades as well. But mangina seems like such a childish word for such a rational sentiment. At least with misognyist, it doesn’t sound like something you’d hear out of a third graders mouth along with “weenis” and “buttface”. And it doesn’t seem to convey the context of what its trying to describe. Personally i’d much rather call the manginas “reavers” as a reference to the show firefly, because it is an apt metaphor for their behavior. Hostile, aggressive, and socially castrated hoardes who mutilate their own self worth in an attempt to reconcile the way society and women have done the same to them. Who lash out at you and try to tear your own pride apart, in order to gain acceptance from their own ranks, and convert or destroy you as well. It aptly describes both the manginas and the white knights, and doesn’t take to petty namecalling. Sure it doesn’t roll off the tongue as well. But at least i’m trying here. I’m sure with your help we can come up with something better that represents us as the intellectual community we are.
The black men refer to them as ” bitch made simps” and “gassers”.
Other names include “Catamite, foot slave, groveling gimp, pussy paladin, shill, chivalrous door mat, castrated punching bag and termite!
Those are just a few off the top of my head.
Mangina has become a trendy word. It was used back in the day for men who roleplayed as women in MMORPG’s. Now it describes any effeminate male, it seems, among other things. Even confused with blue pill or white knighting.
Yes, because the behavior associated with that term needs to be shamed/beaten out of them so they can become the men they were intended to be.
Yes. It’s necessary.
And tell you what… when women (and some men) stop using the term “man up” (as if you’re not one) – or “pussy” – to imply not doing something is cowardly, I will share your sentiment. So let’s intellectualize it as you suggest.
“Man up”, “don’t be such a pussy” and “stop your bitching” are derogatory , mysogynistic expressions women (and some men) use in an effort to insult other men. Look at the terms they use. They are actually anti-female, and have the hilarious reverse effect of what’s intended… by enforcing that vaginas / pussies / bitches/ and women are – in fact – weaker, and inferior to men. They don’t even realize when they are doing it.
It’s like when a woman (or a white knight / mangina) says “you can’t get laid”.
This doesn’t say anything about ME, it says more about HER (or him) . Right there, in that statement, they have just announced that sex (or a f~~~) is the BEST thing a woman has to offer. They don’t attempt to shame a man by saying:
• “You can’t get a woman to love you”.
• “You can get a woman to spend time with you”.
• “You can get a woman to want a stimulating conversation with you”.They say: “you can’t get laid”.
This is how they reveal that they believe – in their hearts – that SEX is the best thing a woman has to offer. “You can’t get laid” is like telling the world they believe that f~~ina is the BEST thing you will (n)ever get from a female. Her time, love, conversation, etc. are not things she withholds first and foremost either. She withholds SEX. It’s the VAGINA that you can’t get, and the VAGINA that she holds as the shaming card.
“Mangina” is therefore not only necessary, but fair use with those people. A “mangina” is a man who believes (and behaves as if) vagina is the most valuable thing a woman has to offer and he will pay any price for it…. because in his mind, the value of it is so over-inflated that NOT GETTING ANY is the WORST possible thing that could happen to him. To him….. “not getting laid” is the ultimate tragedy. That’s why he would use “you can’t get laid” against another man.
The “gina” in man-gina is a direct reference to the grossly over-inflated value he places on a woman’s f~~~hole. So for MGTOW who fully understand that vagina is not made out of porcelain, “mangina” is a very useful term to describe other males who display these behaviors.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Actually, KeyMaster, what you are describing is a Simp. Someone Idolizing Mediocre Pussy. A mangina is an old internet term for a man roleplaying a woman online.
A mangina is an old internet term for a man roleplaying a woman online.
Yes that follows and “simp” is a newer term. But when you say “role-playing a woman online”, do you mean it’s a man pretending to be a woman in internet comment threads and such? Never seen that as far as I am aware. I have seen women attempt to pretend to be men online (like here for example), but not the other way around. I can’t even imagine a man over at Jezebel or feministing pretending to be a female. Does that really exist?
In every example of “mangina” I have seen reference to, it was always blind vagina-worshipping .
Like David Futrelle. Everything is “misogyny” to him. That’s a “mangina”.But this role-playing as a woman thing is brand new to me!
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.One definition I thought it was, that a man is so desperate for the acceptance of a woman that he reduces himself to becoming a part of a woman that he himself wouldn’t have (of course, the Jenners of the world are trying to prove that to be an exception).
Of course, anyone can pick whatever words they want to use. Don’t use mangina if you don’t want to. If you know what it means, you may feel a need to use it. I do find using White Knight to be more useful though.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Does that really exist?
Let me introduce you to a forum called Rerolled.org.
This forum was created in 2002 for an MMO guild in Everquest called Fires of Heaven. They were, at the time, one of the top two or three guilds in the world (not much of an achievement to be honest), but that forum became the hub for “hardcore” MMO gamers.
Over the last thirteen years, we’ve seen so many “female” posters outed as men that it’s not even an in-joke anymore. It’s just expected that every “female” on that board is a man. It’s too bad the old forum was lost back in 2012, because I can’t count how many times this happened over there.
I’m not sure if it was specific to the MMO community pre-voice chat or what. But it’s definitely a thing.
“Man up”, “don’t be such a pussy” and “stop your bitching” are derogatory , mysogynistic expressions women (and some men) use in an effort to insult other men. Look at the terms they use. They are actually anti-female, and have the hilarious reverse effect of what’s intended… by enforcing that vaginas / pussies / bitches/ and women are – in fact – weaker, and inferior to men. They don’t even realize when they are doing it.
An important lesson there, @keymaster. Thanks for your posts. You’re correct that it’s mysogynistic to assume that sex is the best thing a woman has to offer. Knowing that I can engineer comebacks to save my tail if I’m getting whiteknighted. I can say, “That assumes the best thing from a woman is sex. I on the other hand value their appreciation of my character.” That should shut them up.
I’d prefer the term, “Dirty coward,” because this is a person who throws other men under the bus because afraid of either not getting laid or losing female approval.
Lol, yeah the first encounter I had with mangina was Everquest circa 2001. It might have been around before that with Ultima Online, or Neverwinter Nights AOL, I don’t know, I wasn’t into those. It is talking about a man that creates a female avatar and roleplays a female. Someone who you think has a vagina, from online interaction, but in reality is a man.
Lol, yeah the first encounter I had with mangina was Everquest circa 2001. It might have been around before that with Ultima Online, or Neverwinter Nights AOL, I don’t know, I wasn’t into those. It is talking about a man that creates a female avatar and roleplays a female. Someone who you think has a vagina, online, but in reality is a man.
Some of them never stopped pretending, and one of the moderators named “Millie” abused their power to keep the secret going from 1999 until 2006 or 2007 when he got outed.
Another notable one, I can’t remember the name right now, joined around 2004 or 2005 when WoW came out and kept the female cover going until 2012 when the boards went down and the community moved over to “his” new forum and that’s when someone outed him and he shut down those boards to try and bury the secret. That’s when the community moved to the rerolled forum, pieced together what happened to the second forum, and had a good old time making fun of him. That guy either left the community or changed his name to something else.
Crazy, people are crazy.
EDIT: Found the Evelys Thread.
EDIT 2: In case it’s behind a password wall or whatever I’ll repost the main part here:
So after I woke up this morning and saw the wreckage, I sent Evelys an email hoping to salvage whatever we could of Morenetz. That, of course, didn’t happen, but he did reply tonight. This isn’t bulls~~~, this is the real deal. I doubt that anyone will accept it, but hey, it’s for the community to do whatever we will:
“I’m very sorry for this whole mess, and for any pain or harm I’ve caused
anyone. I don’t have any of the site information. I got scared and
deleted everything. I’m still scared, to be honest.I was in a very bad place in my life when I started pretending to be
someone that I’m not, and I used it as an escape from the hell that my
life was. It became a habit I fell into, and it was very, very wrong of
me to deceive you and others.I think that it’s best if I don’t go back to FOH. What I did was
inexcusable, despite any issues I have, and I think it’s clear that the
community is better off without me. I offer my deepest apologies. If you
don’t mind, please extend them to FOH, for wasting their time, deceiving
them, everything I’ve done, and anyone my actions affected.I will never do something like this again. I have to be myself, and not a
figment of my imagination. What I do on the net can affect other people,
and I forgot that. I’ve been hurt a lot in my life, and I never meant or
wanted to negatively affect other people. I’m ashamed for what I’ve done.I’ve handed the whole FOH/MN situation, if not the last decade of my life,
wrong from top to bottom. I’m very, very sorry. I hurt someone who was a
good friend to me by using their picture. I should never have pretended
to be someone else as an escape from my hell. I didn’t man up then and
face it, and it led to this. I should have manned up last night, and
because I’m such a f~~~up and I didn’t, I deleted 3 days of data and
wasted the time of the FOH community, especially people like you and Tuco
that did so much to try to help make the transition smooth.I’m trying to man up now. I’m sorry for being a f~~~up and for deceiving
you and others.”A 2nd email followed with:
“FOH provided a lot
of good times, and those people didn’t deserve this s~~~.At some point, I have to get up the b~~~~ to talk to (RL Name deleted)(the woman whose
pictures I used) and tell her how bad I f~~~ed up and how sorry I am for
what I did and if I caused her any hassle or pain. If she’s contacted you
or the site at all, please pass that along as well. She is (was, I assume
now) an old friend from IRC back in the day, a truly awesome person, and
someone who was a good friend to me when I didn’t have many. She doesn’t
deserve any problems I caused.I really am sorry, dude, and I feel like s~~~ about this whole situation.
Thanks for relaying to people what I just don’t have the nuts to do, even
over the internet.”
Anonymous3What is it with all these girly topics recently? Telling us we need to “man up” and “protect women, they could be our daughters” and now this “no you can’t use this term because it makes you look childish, man up and use a different term” BS?
This movement is going to castrate itself like all the other anti-feminism stuff the past decade plus if we’re just going to tolerate this effeminate BS. This is why the feminists always just immediately erased and banned users on their avenues for trying to weaken their movement. Men need to do it even more, because the average man is such a tard that he will read this stuff and actually think “der her this sounds like a good idea, let’s throw away 15 years of progress and just submit to women by taking away another one of our terms and goals.”
Here’s an idea. You don’t like the term? Then f~~~ off. You can join with all your other white knights and mangina buddies and dance around a pedestal with women on top of it. Then nobody can accuse you of being “childish” because you are supplicating to your masters correctly.
If you honestly, seriously think the word “childish” means anything, you would just get married, slave away 80 hours at work, and turn over all your cash to your female master. That is what “men”, that is “grown men” have been doing for decades after all. You don’t want to associate with us “childish” losers that go our own way and make fun of you for that.
What is it with all these girly topics recently?
Probably an influx of new people. It’s happening over at the MGTOW sub reddit as well.
Absolutely its necessary, its referencing a specific type of male. I was going to go on but then I read KeyMasters response and there was nothing left to add.
But when you say “role-playing a woman online”, do you mean it’s a man pretending to be a woman in internet comment threads and such?
Yep, in-game and on forums. Theyre entire online persona is female. Kinda funny watching the simps n manginas cozy up to them in the forlorn hope of nudes or cybering
"If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance run,"
Anyone noticing the curve of interest in MGTOW? It is now starting to resemble and exponential curve, so you will get an influx. I am one of these, and I am sure there are others. With this is going to be men who have been hurt and so on, with their own biases entering and trying to fit in, and sort. And this is going to lead to tension. I have my own biases in this also, as should be apparent, as I am sure others do also. Heck, I got flagged and my sex questioned. It will happen. It may end up this site will need more than just a gender check for people signing up to be acceptable. But, with that, you will lose diversity of thought that will help to be able to settle issues. One thing the GTOW part of MGTOW would be harmed by is if there is some sort of “code of identity” that needs to be rigidly followed. Maybe the end will be different flavors of MGTOW, to just maintain the peace.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Absolutely its necessary, its referencing a specific type of male. I was going to go on but then I read KeyMasters response and there was nothing left to add.
But when you say “role-playing a woman online”, do you mean it’s a man pretending to be a woman in internet comment threads and such?
Yep, in-game and on forums. Theyre entire online persona is female. Kinda funny watching the simps n manginas cozy up to them in the forlorn hope of nudes or cybering
I am on Second Life, and check things out. I see men being women there for several reasons: One, they are so horny, they feel they have to run a female avatar in order to get a guy to have sex with them, so they can watch. A second is that they are trans and want to feel like what it is to be literally a woman. The last one is they want perks from men to get advantages (play the damsel in distress in order to get resources). I am sure the last one is what is going on with MMOs where people need to quest. Either that, or the skill package of the female character is useful, so a guy will play the female character.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
You are absolutely right, I prefer calling them scumbags.
"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"
wussies better?
Mangina ~ conformist man
MGTOW ~ non-conformist manproud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
I call it stupidity. Also chivalric stupidity. Another phrase is Captian save a hoe.
There was a time when I was a young man ,a teenager when I practiced some of those behaviors.
And to be honest most of my life up until recent years I let different women walk all over me.
Not healthy at all but consider what that reveals about the personality of the average woman.
Give an inch and be taken for a mile.
I’ll just trust that no one here would say NAWALT
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
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