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Young MGHOW over here. Looking for you guys to drop some knowledge.
Ever since I’ve been growing up, the one thing I keep hearing, from both men and women, is that “all men are after sex” and “men just want sex.”
What I don’t understand is- why? I never had an internal craving for sex. Most of my desire, upon self-reflection, comes from observing other people having a desire for it.
Like, for example- I’m perfectly happy spending the day hiking a natural trail or playing my favorite video games. But then, when I watch a movie and such a comment is made “men just want sex,” I wonder…”hmm?? Do I want sex? I guess i do…”
I’m 100% straight and I like women, but I really haven’t felt an overwhelming internal drive to have sex.
So this brings me to the question- is this notion that “all men want sex” just social brainwashing?
is this notion that “all men want sex” just social brainwashing?
it’s a generalization…..not completely true that all men crave it.
for me, i watch porn a couple times a week, it’s much less hassle than the real thing.
MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.
No, the women that provide it usually are.
The whole statement of men wanting just sex is overplayed too. Woman like to use this as an excuse to justify treating men the way they do. They say it like it’s a bad thing but what is the first thing they lay on the table when they go out prowling for men? They don’t want to be sex objects but then they go out dressed like prostitutes. If they really didn’t want men looking at them like sex objects then they would avoid dressing like one and scorn the ones that do dress like prostitutes.
I personally don’t have sex on my mind 24/7 like women seem to believe either.Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.
Yes sex is overrated.
I am someone who the various females I have had relationships with described as having a monstrous libido. When I was with them I wanted to do it more often than not, in fact I probably was the picture of the male stereotype who constantly thought about sex. Still do but to a lesser degree now that I got older.
The problem for me is that women aren’t really that good in sex and after a while I got the ‘ability’ to sense when they were faking everything and when they didn’t.
Newsflash for men: Women tend to enjoy sex more than we do and they CANNOT stay with one guy for long without wanting to ‘spice things up’ without even knowing that’s what it is that they want; that’s when they will start cheating and faking orgasms in sex. The problem is that the vast majority of them ARE NOT GOOD AT SEX NOR THEY WANT TO GET BETTER AT IT. They always get that extra ‘spice’ just by cheating or changing lovers like shirts.
For me at least, sex became a chore as woman after woman didn’t know how to ‘please’ someone who had a modicum of experience (I am 29 years old in the low double digits of sexual partners, nothing extraordinary). Once I reached that stage I more or less became celibate by choice (and started overeating A LOT as a consequence), sex does feel good but women are just not good at it. Most think that a blowjob and a couple of positions is all there is to it and they don’t even try anything else because it ‘too tiring’; then there is the fact that not even the young ones are ‘tight’ anymore in more ways that one.
Its ridiculous but now I get more sexual satisfaction by masturbating and fantasizing what I want to do in sex than whenever I bother to have sex with a female.
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@MonkMode – really want to upvote you, but you’re at 777 and i don’t want to f~~~ that up.
t drives them crazy everytime, try masturbating when you are in bed with a chick, she will feel offended that you didn’t try to get into her pants
Yup. They get f~~~ing p~~~ed at this. Ditto when a woman asks you to take her back to your place. “No thanks. I have to get up early tomorrow.” It’s like a man’s never turned them down for sex before. Watch that hamster hit the redline!
What I don’t understand is- why? I never had an internal craving for sex. Most of my desire, upon self-reflection, comes from observing other people having a desire for it.
In my experience most guys want it sometimes, but not all guys, and not all of the time. How much/frequently they want it depends on a lot of things too – age, stress, nutrition, and other things. I know when i was 16 i thought about sex all the time. I’m 36 now, much less frequent.
Two friends of mine don’t ever think about sex. One’s a PhD in physics, the other’s an architect – i would put them both above average in the looks category; they’re both fit, no major health problems.
It took me a while to figure it out, but for me there’s a HUGE difference between having sex, versus getting off. Yeah, they’re related, but not the same. Sex is usually seduction, bringing her back to my place, foreplay, etc etc. I used to enjoy that on occasion, but it’s such a f~~~ing timesink (before & after, like when she wants to hang around afterwards.). Getting off is straight to the point, no bulls~~~ (i.e. porn, escorts, massage parlors, etc.).
So this brings me to the question- is this notion that “all men want sex” just social brainwashing?
Yes. Just like women saying “Men will f~~~ anything!” Really? Then why do you wear make up? High heels, get plastic surgery, push up bras, spray on tan? They keep making these assertions because that’s all women have to offer these days, and all they have to offer is that hole between their legs, and most women aren’t even good in bed. That’s right, kids, you have to know how to f~~~ if you’re a woman, not your lame ass attempts at riding my dick.
I’m pretty young myself, I had the urge for it, then I got it, then I got it many more times, and you realize it’s good, but so is cake. Doesn’t mean you should eat it all the time. And cake doesn’t consume my every waking thought. Women just want to hype up what they have. Sex is easier to get now than it ever was, and I couldn’t care less anymore. A movie is more interesting to me.
Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.
Yes, sex is way too overrated. It programs us into the belief, that sex is the only purpose in a man’s life and is, what makes a man. Don’t be fooled by that. Society has turned against us males.
Also, sex is commonly used as a weapon against us or as a prize for us for doing X, Y and Z. That’s where free porn is on your side so you don’t have to make expenses and risk things. It’s a very big relief.
To me, sex is just an achievement. Its potential lasts only averagely 5 seconds. Is it worth the c~~~ and the pussy?
Sex is just that: sex. It doesn’t mark anything. It’s just an sexual intercourse with another entity.
"We are free to follow our own path. There are those who will take that freedom from us, and too many of you gladly give it. But it is our ability to choose – whatever you think is true – that makes us human. There is no book or teacher to give you the answers, to show you the path. Choose your own way! Do not follow me, or anyone else."
Well, let’s think about this from a business perspective for a moment. If you are a woman and you want a man to spend money on you, what do you do? You need a product to sell, and you want to put out the minimum effort and get maximum value for your product.
You could sell friendship, understanding, honor, commitment, but other men sell that too. In fact, barter it in return for getting it back. And it takes effort to get out of your own head for 5 minutes and think about someone else. That’s hard god damn work. Well, f~~~, that doesn’t work. I guess you’d better sell something that men don’t have, like a vagina.
Now that we have a product, we need to up the value as much as possible. So you ADVERTISE AND MARKET. Saying that men only think of one thing is an advertising slogan, put out there to drive up the value of the product and get maximum value from the product. Nothing more, nothing less.
Now, I personally think sex is awesome. A woman’s body is a hell of lot of fun. It’s just not worth half my s~~~ (again). And a woman’s body can be rented by the hour, it doesn’t have to be purchased.
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I think sex is great, but its not worth the risks or having to deal with a women to get. If I could have casual sex with a clean, sterile woman who wasn’t f~~~ing anyone but me it would be the best thing ever, but most women want a relationship and drama, are f~~~ing pigs that have been around the block and back, and considering I’m at an age where women +/- 5 years of me are near, at, or recently post wall I think I’m at the worst possible age bracket to be in for women trying to trap you with a kid. Its just not worth the hassle, drama, and potential consequences. I doubt I’ll be celibate for the rest of my life but if I don’t have any sex in 2016, its no big deal for me.
Assuming you don’t have a medical condition like depression or low T there is nothing wrong or shameful about having a low sex drive.
Sex drive is a continuum. Some want more than others. I would suggest you talk to your doctor to rule out anything medical and then enjoy your life. You have a gift to resist the women, enjoy it
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Women make sex into a bigger deal, then it actually is. They over inflate it, and when the act of it actually happens, their not very good at it anyways. Women are becoming more and more sexual perverts, which means it’s not as easy for them as it used to be.
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Prior yo mgtow I was thinking of moving in with my then mistress and divorcing. Then I resluzed that ine day the sex would stop. I would be looking iver tge dinner table two yoing adults feom different fathers with msny issues. I would ask myself how I got here. In time the sex would stop, it always does.
Sex us our weakness. Master your mind and the secual urges and you will not be enslaved.
After reading so much mgtow…we all hear that a guy married then the sex stops.
It is a female pattern.
Do we have s term for this fraud?
Yes, sex is overrated. The moments if pleasure are followed by years of enslavement and oceans of cash they p~~~ away.
I tnink the best solution is to find s good blowjob professional. As herpes is rampant, best to wear a rubber.
And not f~~~ her.Better yet. Porn.
I have been thinking of going no fap. Any of you guys do that? Results and observations.?
No fap is bs and not worth it.
are you a chia pet in man drag There are two different questions you’re asking here, OP. The first is
is this notion that “all men want sex” just social brainwashing?
No, not at all. You, by your own admission, say that sometimes you want sex.
It’s a biological need, just as much as eating and sleeping are.
The second question is:
“men just want sex,”
This is not true.
Look around you: your computer, every part of it, your house, your electricity, your plumbing, your sewer, your food, etc—all of it (ALL) is there because a man put it there. It’s absolutely astounding what men do. Men put men on the moon several times for Christ’s sake. Men are always striving to be better, stronger, more advanced. If all men wanted were sex, then we’d still be living in caves, because women sure as s~~~ didn’t build all this.
If a woman says “all men want is sex,” it’s because in her interactions with men, the men don’t seem to stick around for anything other than sex. But that doesn’t mean that all he wants is sex, it just means that he feels that from her sex is the only thing worth getting. How exactly is that his fault?
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
I went through a phase in my teen years to where all I wanted was sex. But, even in my white knight years, the pregnancy scares and the false rape accusations kept me away from women. I was pretty sure it was my subconscious keeping me safe from that; because I was a full blown white knight back then and the only thing I worshiped was the “oh so golden vagina.”
I’m still a virgin because of it and I just use porn now. I watch it daily, but use masturbation as a sleep aid most of the time. Otherwise, I don’t even crave sex as much as I used to. I also have it in the back of my mind that f~~~ing any woman is probably like f~~~ing a tuna fish sandwich. No thanks. I’d rather use a fleshlight. At least they’re tighter.
Also, I’m 100% sure that they say “men only want sex” is because they’re projecting. Women are hornier than men. Why? Probably because they know they only have a limited time to have kids and get married. Which is why their biology forces them to ride every guy in the world up until they’re 35 or so. That’s when their sex drive slows down and they regret having sex/pursing a career.
Ever since I’ve been growing up, the one thing I keep hearing, from both men and women, is that “all men are after sex” and “men just want sex.”
Let’s translate what those words mean. They don’t mean “men only want sex” and “men only want one thing”. If that were true, how do they explain all the valentines cards, gifts, insane gestures of “romance” , love songs and operas written, and outrageous proposals?
Back to basics: Sex is the entire biological POINT between men and women.
All that other horses~~~ is NOT.What ELSE should a guy want from a woman he doesn’t know??
If she wants a man to want her for anything ELSE… that’s not up to YOU.
It’s up to HER.So when a man walks away and has decided she’s not good for anything else women do not accept this reality and say “all men want is sex”. Bulls~~~. That’ just a woman coming out and telling you sex is the best thing she has to offer.
A woman will never say “F~~~ I was such a demanding bitch, useless and lazy, I don’t blame him for leaving at all. There goes a great guy.”
No… she says “What an asshole”.
Same thing here.
A woman will never admit you walked away because she said “I expect men to perform all the traditionally male roles and responsibilities but if you expect me to pick up a mop or COOK you anything…. you’re dreaming, you sexist bastard..”
So she says “All men want is sex:”. – blaming even her own flaws & shortcomings on someone ELSE.
But that’s all she’s good for.
Think about it. What else should a man want from a woman he doesn’t know? A million things (like a woman does)? Or nothing at all? Because those are the alternatives. Wanting to have sex with her THE ONLY REASON to associate with her in the first place!!!!! It’s actually a good thing that “men only want one thing” at first. She should be grateful he’s interested in her at all!
If a woman wants to be wanted for anything else… it’s not up to HIM. It’s up to HER.
She can get busy, or shut the f~~~ up.“All men want is sex” is just a woman saying “men don’t want me for anything else.”
It doesn’t say anything about men. It says everything about WOMEN.Take a look around. Aside from working on their sex appeal as hard as they do… ….women are pretty f~~~ing lazy. I have seen a woman spend 45 minutes straightening her hair, but she won’t straighten out the mess that’s inside. I have seen a woman throw away weekends to go shopping and find a handbag on sale, but she can’t even make a decent omelette for herself.
Where it gets even more honest… is when a man finally observes and asks “is sex overrated?”.
Because now he’s thinking she not even good at THAT anymore.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I have been thinking of going no fap. Any of you guys do that? Results and observations.?
No fap is bs and not worth it.
Worth what?
Unless you are ready to stack up the daily stress and refrain from treating yourself with amazing and potential endorphin and still look for your magical unicorn, no-fap is likely not for you.In my opinion no-fap is for white mangina knights and blue pills. Or religious people. Anything is actually valid unless you are hurting yourself going no-fap and you don’t like it.
In my rule no-fap = no hap(piness)
Back to topic:
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“All men want is sex” is just a woman saying “men don’t want me for anything else.”
It doesn’t say anything about men. It says everything about WOMEN.Wow Keymaster! Bravo brother! Well said. Well said indeed.
(Quote author isn’t correct for some reason)"We are free to follow our own path. There are those who will take that freedom from us, and too many of you gladly give it. But it is our ability to choose – whatever you think is true – that makes us human. There is no book or teacher to give you the answers, to show you the path. Choose your own way! Do not follow me, or anyone else."
Yeah sex is great and not overrated but some pussy is
It’s kind of like looking at a car lot. Cars are not overrated at all when you bunch them all together but if you segregate a few models you’ll find a few overrated ones. Same rule applies to pussy, except on a larger scale.
I swear I’ve put my dick in a few vaginas that felt like nothing more than a cup of warm water……F~~~ing skanks.
Virgin here! these are my thoughts on the topic.
I also do not have a craving for sex; infact while growing up as a young teenage all i wanted was a good relationship and was more fond of the idea of cuddling rather than having sex. To me, back then and still now i believed that your virginity should be saved for the person you want to spend the rest of your life with. This makes a lot of sense, seeing as how virgin wives only have a 10-15% divorce rate, in comparison to say a wife who has had say 6 sexual partners who would have a divorce rate of 65%. So in those regards, i am very repelled from sex and am very much committed to saving my virginity until marriage.
Now of course, because the chances of finding a 7/10+ virgin woman with a decent personality is literally 1 in 200,000, i will almost most certainly be a virgin for the rest of my life. I have no problems with it; infact something like 10% of men never have sex ( based on a kinsey study 1995 or so )
In terms of this rampant sexual addiction that i see everywhere, it disgusts me, to think that the vast majority of this “modern” society’s main goal in life is STILL to have as much sex as possible.
if you think about it, less than 1% of the population is actually focusing on making scientific advancements, the rest are focused on either getting some ass or feeding their family. I’d say world hunger could EASILY be solved by an additional 1% of the population focusing on scientific advancements. If you think about it, it took 10 years to go from 90nm transistors in cpus to 7nm graphene transistors. that is over a 1300% improvement. if say half of the population were to focus on science… we’d be in the star trek age, with a mars colony in under 10 years, with flying cars, hoverboards, cheap thorium electricity, heck maybe even tritium based energy by then.
Now, i personally have absolutely no idea how addictive sex is and i have been told many times that i would never understand until i’ve had sex. So, why would i want to give up, who i am, my beliefs, and in a sense life goals, just so that i can know what its like to be addicted to sex?
i have tried tobacco, it’s nice, but playing with fire or even just being around a camp fire is about the same to me.
same thing with weed, only difference is a 2L bottle of pop and a camp fire makes me feel the same.With alcohol, i found that it did absolutely NOTHING to me aside from make me unable to balance myself. i’ve only ever gotten drunk 3-4 times, but every time i did, i was in complete control, remembered every exact moment, and really, i only ever used it because the ladies would let me grab their asses and not get offended by it. After a while i just pretended to be drunk and i could do pretty much anything i wanted with the ladies; it would always be written off as, “oh, he was just drunk.” Shortly after i came to the conclusion that there was absolutely no reason for me to go to these parties. It always ended up with all of the ladies getting s~~~ faced drunk, sucking the dicks of random guys, and me being absolutely stunned by how these “nice girls,” “honor students,” and so called “strong and independent women,” turned into absolute sluts in under an hour… there was no way that i was going to find a half-decent girl at any of these parties.
Most of these so called addictive substances never satisfied me in anyway, so, why would being addicted to sex satisfy me?
So this is my main reason in general as to why i’m generally against addictions. It may be just me, but i think that as a society it is pathetic. We can do better.
Plus, on a more selfish note, every one of these addictions; heck every addiction in general makes up the difference between having to work for a couple of years… and having to work for the rest of your life!
Sex is definitely overrated, especially when i’m already happy without it.
My Goal: To Leave Society.
I have read that the vagina changes with time. With age and prior child birth it looses elastcity. does anyone know what age and what elasticy loss is normal? Mommas 38,pussy not what it used to be. Could also be me used to a good grip during masturbation.
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