Is Ronda Rousey a possible NAWALT?

[Wandering MGHOWParticipant 551]

For those who are not familiar with her, she is the #1 female MMA fighter, former olympian, and a very accomplished Judo practitioner.

I’ll admit I found this interesting:

I can admire that assuming she means what she says and IS telling the truth. Judo is a very hard sport and you must be very disciplined to be the best at it. The amount of dedication and passion it takes to reach the top of ANY martial art is admirable. I’m not a big fan of Ronda (or women’s sports in general), but I can appreciate and respect dedication when I see it. It’s a shame that 99.9% of modern day women do not have the attention span or common sense to make an omelet, let alone become a world champion in martial arts. If more women had Ronda’s outlook they would actually be useful.

[BlackPillParticipant 319]

I saw this and thought something similar, but I also didn’t like the whole hype about her saying she can beat up mayweather.

Bish needs to be humbled real quick if that’s the case.

[MonkeyKingEnma21Participant 156]

I’m sorry but there is no such thing as a NAWALT. Even supposedly independent women are not NAWALT’s and will take advantage of any man they can. This women is just as much of an attention whore as any other women hence her making a documentary about how different she is, all they care about is attention.

Just cause they may look different on the outside they have the same programming on the inside.

[RoyDalParticipant]

A winning lottery ticket is a statistical probability. So is a NAWALT. The problem is: Is the ticket I just bought a winning ticket?

If it is not a winner, I’m out a buck. If the gal I took to the altar is not a NAWALT, I’m out lots more than a small dent in my beer money.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I would imagine the husband still being taken away in cuffs come the post marital arguments …. even though he’d be dead ?

Put her in the ring I say … my money’s not on her.

But she’d f~~~ me if she wants ?

[foolsgoldParticipant 5639]

I would like to see her fight Gayweather. He’d probably drop her like a used condom with the first solid uppercut. No such event will ever take place. But it would probably set a record in revenue generated in pay-per view.

[Wandering MGHOWParticipant 551]

Lol I could picture feminists lobbying against that fight ever taking place, and protesting ONLY if she loses of course.

“It’s not fair! We want justice!” 

But if she were to win (fat chance) then they would be feeling all empowered and s~~~ and completely contradict themselves lol.

“Women are just as strong as men and this proves it! We always knew she would win!”

Ronda has excellent judo but realistically if floyd were to even graze her with a punch, she’d get dropped.

[Just a ManParticipant 934]

I like how she shut feminists up by declaring she wouldn’t fight a man, apparently before the Mayweather thing. She gets it and the feminists are still out beyond left field, in the parking lot staring at unicorns and faeries. I do believe they are actively searching for a man she can ACTUALLY beat to prove their point. Don’t hold your breath.

Philosophy, the female repellent

[StandUpGuyParticipant 334]

MonkeyKingEnma21 wrote:

I’m sorry but there is no such thing as a NAWALT.

There is a reason the above quote is correct. And I am sure this will not be the only time I make this point.

The reason there is no such thing as a NAWALT is because the “sisterhood” will not let a thing like that happen. She would be an outcast and bullied by the sisterhood.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Women can be what I call “physical NAWALTs,” meaning they can look fit and healthy physically (which CERTAINLY not all women are physically fit, most are overweight and lazy), but just about every woman on the planet is at the least mentally ill somehow, whether chemically or just because they’re psychotic in general.

[Wandering MGHOWParticipant 551]

Would like to add this to the topic. I remember watching a documentary about a legendary female Japanese Judo expert that dedicated her entire life to the art of Judo. I wasn’t MGTOW at the time I first watched it, but I still remember having a great deal of respect for her. Now that I’m MGTOW, I have an even GREATER respect for this woman. Here is the documentary:

If there was ever such a thing as a NAWALT/Unicorn, this woman would be the prime example of one. Go to 3:10 in the video specifically to see why. Here is something that I read about her that I found interesting:

 

Keiko Fukuda Shihan passed away yesterday at the age of 99. She was the last surviving student of the founder of judo, Jigoro Kano, and the highest ranking female judoka in history. She was promoted to 10th dan (degree) black belt just last year, a rank that at the time was held only by 3 other people, all men living in Japan. Fukuda Shihan left her homeland and refused marriage to achieve her dreams of training in judo, constantly battling gender discrimination which kept her from being promoted as quickly as men less skilled than her. “As far as I know, no one has lived their life completely for judo as I have.”

 

They don’t make women like her anymore and sadly, she passed away in 2012 at the age of 99. I have a great amount of respect for anyone that can dedicate their entire life to something (whatever it may be) and have the immense discipline it requires. For a good laugh, just try to imagine a modern day average woman doing something like this. Not even necessarily Judo, but ANYTHING. Your average female nowadays can’t even cook without getting bored and quitting, but they sure can take selfies though.

Ronda is the only one who comes close and that is why I have been learning to respect her more and more lately.

[UntamedParticipant]

I’d like to see her fight Clint Eastwood. I just want to see him uppercut that bitch unconscious in the first second. Let ’em protest, s~~~load of good it’ll do ’em.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[RennieParticipant]

BlackPill wrote:

I saw this and thought something similar, but I also didn’t like the whole hype about her saying she can beat up mayweather. Bish needs to be humbled real quick if that’s the case.

Someone I know, (a guy) insists this chick could fight men and win, despite my pointing out how she’d get the p~~~ pounded out of her. He seems to enjoy the idea of being dominated by her too.

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

RoyDal wrote:

A winning lottery ticket is a statistical probability. So is a NAWALT. The problem is: Is the ticket I just bought a winning ticket? If it is not a winner, I’m out a buck. If the gal I took to the altar is not a NAWALT, I’m out lots more than a small dent in my beer money.

As always, well said sir.  You have a way with words.

[BigRed0331Participant 13]

Hello friends. I don’t believe Rhonda Rousey is a NAWALT at all.  What we see is a representation of what she wants the world to see her as: a girl who isn’t like all the rest of the girls.  However, think for moment, that’s essentially what most women want people to think of them as, unique snowflakes who are so freakin’ special and set apart from all the other chicks who also think they are unique snowflakes.  Rousey is a feminist icon and frankly the manner in which men fawn over her like googly-eyed orbiters with boyhood crushes is somewhat disturbing.  Consider how she is now considered the face of the UFC.  In days past, MMA was a somewhat fringe sport that guys got together and watched, profoundly taking in the expression of violence in what is arguably the purist form of competitive struggle legally available in the modern world.  You would get together with friends, pool some money for a pay-per-view, drink some beer, argue over who the best fighter ever was (it’s Fedor by the way), half-drunkly wrestle in the living room, and generally have a damn good time.  Fast forward to today and instead you get invited to watch a fight at a friend’s house and as you walk in you notice the perfectly laid out snacks on the coffee table, see your boy’s girl wearing a “girls can fight too” t-shirt, notice that she has like 6 of her friends there, have to overhear bulls~~~ conversations about: “how pretty or ugly the ring girls/female fighters are”, how “hawt ‘dat guy is who’s from Brazil”, “how a woman could beat up a guy and the women always bring it”, you notice how this is now a female friendly environment where everyone is now supposed to be wowed by a plain looking 150 lbs. (cuts to 135) chick who is facing women fighters with atrocious skills and abilities but somehow is conscientiously now the #1 pound per pound fighter.  Later you watch the MMA BEAT and see four grown men discuss how terrible it was when mma was  an alpha-male sport and how great it is now that a woman is the best fighter in the world and how the sport has evolved to inspire women all over the world.  Trust me I get it: we all want to think that there really is someone out there who isn’t like the others.  However Rousey is not this person and instead is a c~~~-carousel riding, plain-looking chick who gets men to shower her with praise and worship her as if she is some kind of goddess.  It is this underlying desire to believe that there is a girl out there who is “the one” and we just need to find her that gives many men a skewed perspective of certain women and view them with great reverence.  It is because we are only seeing them in a particular context.  We see Rousey as a judo-throwing ass kicker and are drawn to the idealistic belief that this makes her so much different from all the other gals out there.  Its kind of like being in high school and seeing that pretty, feminine girl who is shy and fragile and not a bitch like all the others walk into your English class.  You think to yourself, “she is so perfect and completely unique, I want to read her poems, and paint her pictures, and buy her romantic flowery stuff, and look lovingly into her eyes, and be together with her for eternity.” Essentially this is the context you see her in.  But the truth is that half an hour ago she was being double teamed by two dudes in the dark room of the arts classroom and that glowing, flowing, and lovely hair on her feminine head still has cum drying from the loads she took to her face. You just never saw that side of her.  It is also somewhat odd to hear such high reverence for Rousey on a MGTOW forum.

 

[xgreenlanternoxParticipant 253]

No. They don’t exist no matter how hard they try to act as if they do.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

She might be enjoyable company but don’t go by what the media portrays her as being.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[KingOfTheSeaParticipant 1270]

In short? No.

The thing I think most men tend to forget when they believe they have found a NAWALT is whether or not the woman has options. The greater the array of options the woman has, the less likely she is to settle down and live a “traditionalist” lifestyle of being the stay-at-home mom who lives off the husbands’ paycheck. At this point, Ronda is making far more than most men are so there’d be very little point to engage the dating scene seriously. It’s the same reason girls from 18-25 years of age are more than happy to just “have fun” and “hook up”; they have options because they’re at their physical prime. They approach the Wall, though, and they risk missing out on resources and a paid-for lifestyle; thus, they begin trying to tie down a “respectable” man. The longer it takes, the lower their standards drop.

So yes, Rousey is happy to earn a living right now instead of finding a man and settling down…because she has that option at the moment. The real question is whether or not she’s going to be smart with her money because if she is, she may stay single as her looks and talent fade. I also believe this is a large reason why she won’t fight a man in the same weight class, let alone Floyd Mayweather: She risks losing media attention, endorsements, and the “undefeated” status, not to mention the possibility of injury which would take her out of the spotlight as well as cost her money to heal up and fights she would miss (losing more money).

[JasonParticipant 282]

I don’t know anything about this Ronda person, nor will I pretend to, but I would like to point something out in regards to martial arts and fighting.
Many people, including many people I’ve seen here on MGTOW.com, have a very skewed view of what constitutes fighting. Most (but not all) of the “fighters” involved in boxing, MMA and many other popular sports haven’t undergone fighting training – they’ve undergone sports training. They have learnt techniques and tactics tailored to work under certain conditions, with certain rules and safety precautions. Nothing wrong with that, but many people mistake their success under those conditions to mean they would have equal success under all conditions.

I mentioned this in another thread, but I’ll repeat the brief info: I’ve practiced martial arts for 23 years. I have engaged in hundreds of fights. I have engaged in thousands of sparring matches. I have fought hundreds of opponents of all skill levels, of dozens of different fighting styles. In all this time, I have only ever lost when fighting five or more opponents at once or when facing a single opponent of roughly my own size or smaller and with roughly equal or greater speed and skill.

Now, with that out of the way…
The most common misconception I see in regards to fighting has to do with body weight, size and muscle strength. By which I mean that many people – indeed, most – mistakenly believe that the larger, stronger person automatically has an advantage. In no-holds-barred fighting between opponents with even a modicum of skill and experience, this only holds true in wrestling and grappling. In unarmed striking and weapons fighting, on the other hand, the smaller opponent almost always has a distinct advantage. Why?
To calculate striking power, you need to take into account acceleration rate and mass. Most people know this. However, most people do not know that acceleration plays a much, much bigger part in this calculation than mass. To illustrate this, let’s use an extreme example:
Two people. One weighs, oh, let’s say 150 lbs/68 kg. The other, 300 lbs/136 kg. Now, let’s say the lighter person has twice the acceleration rate of the heavier.
What does this result in? The lighter person – yes, the one weighing half as much as the heavier person – hits a helluva lot harder. Not only that, the person probably has a smaller frame, and thus smaller fists, meaning that greater force gets concentrated onto a smaller area, causing even more damage.
For an example that some people will have an easier time understanding, consider a car, going 10mph. This will have a certain amount of kinetic energy. Now, imagine that same car going 20mph – at first glance one would think that this car would have exactly twice the kinetic energy, right? Wrong. The car going 20mph has four times the kinetic energy of the same car going 10mph. The reason? Speed/acceleration plays a much bigger part than mass when it comes to determining kinetic energy. The simplified calculation for an object in motion goes: Mass * speed * speed. Yup, you multiply the mass by the speed by the speed. So a doubling of speed means a quadrupling of kinetic energy.
When it comes to weapons fighting, as long as you meet the “minimum requirements” to properly wield the weapon, any excess strength doesn’t do much to help, and in many cases can actually work to your disadvantage, depending on the weapon and technique used. Again, then, speed/acceleration plays a much bigger role than size, mass and strength.

Now, with the (simplified) science out of the way, let’s move on.

So, given the above, why do these gross misconceptions exist? Some (most?) of you have probably figured it out already – modern martial sports, and their prevalence in mass media (also Hollywood and comic books, with their ridiculously inefficiently proportioned action heroes). In modern boxing, MMA, sports karate, and so on, official matches operate under certain rules and safety precautions. Most notably, they ban killing and crippling techniques and most nerve and vital strikes. In addition, they usually force the participants to make use of protective gear such as padded gloves. What does this all mean for the fighters? Answer: Many things, but two stand out.
Firstly, the ban on techniques skews the fight heavily from the beginning. Why? Because smaller, faster fighters have a huge advantage in making use of (most) such techniques when compared to larger, slower fighters. If you want to put it in “game terms”, the smaller, faster fighters just got nerfed something fierce.
Secondly, the use of protective gear. Padded gloves do not only provide padding – which would confer more-or-less equal disadvantage to both fighters – they also increase the striking surface. Percentage-wise, if we assume the fighters use the same model of glove, they increase the smaller fighter’s striking surface area a lot more than the larger fighter’s. The additional weight – and thus decrease in acceleration – also has a greater percentage increase for the smaller fighter. Same goes for worn padding; the percentage decrease in efficiency becomes significantly greater for the smaller, faster fighter compared to the larger, heavier fighter. In game terms, again, the smaller, faster fighter just got nerfed something fierce.

Chiefly because of the two above points, many, many people have a very skewed view of actual fighting. Indeed, even many so-called “fighters” have this view, due to a lack of experience with fighting without the aforementioned rules and limitations.

Now, some people may want to protest the above, citing instances of “traditional” fighters going into the ring against “sports” fighters and losing. Now, setting aside that most “traditional” fighters that have done so have had middling skill at best, remember the two points above. These traditional fighters suddenly see as many as half or more of their techniques rendered illegal (forcing them to grossly revise their tactics on the fly), and of their remaining techniques, virtually all suddenly got a helluva lot less effective. Going the other way around – with the sports fighter going up, no-holds-barred, against the traditional fighter – the sports fighter likely wouldn’t last more than a few seconds, at best, against an opponent of equal skill. Why? Because he uses techniques and tactics tailor-made for use under certain rules and safety precautions, which don’t exist outside the ring. Of course, some sports fighters also practice traditional martial arts in addition to martial sports, so don’t take this as applying in every single case.

For something more illustrative: Imagine a tiger, raised in captivity. In its youth it had its teeth and claws pulled out – not just trimmed, pulled out. Its owners then set it up to fight against other, similarly crippled tigers. The years go by, and the tiger becomes more and more proficient at fighting without its natural weapons. Then one day, its owners manage to capture a wild tiger, and decide to have it fight the first tiger. However, to make the fight “fair”, they pull out the recently-captured tiger’s teeth and claws before putting the tigers into the ring together. Who do you think will win – the tiger that has spent its entire life fighting without its teeth and claws, or the one that only just had them removed? Now, imagine that same match-up, but with the second tiger retaining its teeth and claws. What do you think will happen?

I hope this helps people understand the difference between martial arts and martial sports and why you really, really shouldn’t confuse or conflate the two (which a helluva lot of people do, sadly).

Now, lastly, how all this relates to the thread: I do not know this Ronda person, nor will I pretend to. However, with this post I wanted to point out that many – indeed, perhaps most, for all I know – of the protests against her ability to go up against a male fighter stem from peoples’ misconceptions about fighting, based on the points I’ve made above. Again, I don’t know anything about her, nor any other famous sports fighter, male or female (I don’t follow sports), so I have no idea how she would actually fare in a fight against any one particular fighter.

Just my two cents.

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