Is MGTOW the gateway to claiming one's own Sovereignty?

[Article-58Participant 155]

Although I see a lot of proclamations to claim ownership of one’s life/existence from the Indentured Servitude of women, I haven’t seen it expanded to the bigger picture of claiming one’s own self ownership and freedom from all claims of Servitude by any one or thing?

Although MGTOW was conceived as freedom from the habitual usery habits of women, it negates the bigger picture of the usery habitual habits of the System (Government)! And how Government is a disease masquerading to be it’s own cure!

I’m talking about Sovereignty and Anarchy! But the mass majority of people have been brainwashed through Social Engineering in the Public Schools and the Mainstream Media to associate Sovereignty with only Statehood and Royalty and not what it really means: “Sole over Rains”,  that is: Self Ownership! It’s the True Freedom because no one has ownership/power/authority/jurisdiction/or claim over you but God/the Creator!

Same thing with Anarchy; people are brainwashed to associate it with chaos and mayhem when in reality it means no one is subjugated to a Ruling Class, but is a truly free and voluntary society!

So I wonder if MGTOW’s are aware they maybe claiming freedom from Sociopathic Women are still consenting to being willing beasts of burden to this Psychopathic fiction we call Government? How many understand that they’ve been duped into being State Worshipers just like when they were Women Worshipers? How many caught on to the fact that Government, like any Organized Criminal Syndicate, provides a service at the barrel of a gun?

 

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[Article-58Participant 155]

Larken Rose, the Volcano God parable:

 

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[Article-58Participant 155]

Larken Rose, the Plantation parable:

 

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[Article-58Participant 155]

The philosophy of Liberty :

 

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[WolfParticipant 890]

Article-58 wrote:

Although MGTOW was conceived as freedom from the habitual usery habits of women, it negates the bigger picture of the usery habitual habits of the System (Government)! And how Government is a disease masquerading to be it’s own cure!

I am a non-conformist; however, it’s difficult to avoid the wrath of the state. There are ways, but I’m not willing to go there.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

To me it was the other way around.
I learned and conceptualized other forms of tyranny first, MGTOW was the latest revelation

But I understand that for me it is way easier than for others  – being born in Soviet Union and then going through all the transitions ending up in the EU – and then immigrating to the US – meant having first hand experience not many others had. If you were born in the West – it is massively more difficult to figure out what’s wrong with the picture unless you are very well read on history and have an inquiring mind of a skeptic.

It is very sad to see how people are dismissed for being “conspiracy theorists” – CIA’s plan of marginalizing truth-seekers worked as charm.
But because how the things are moving towards tyranny at warp speed nowadays – more and more people are waking up to smell the roses.

Alex Jones is the man I admire the most as far as his passion and commitment to seeking and speaking the truth despite all the ridicule. And I think that the US Constitution is the biggest achievement of the humankind to day. I don’t know much about anarchists yet, so I cannot comment. Maybe one day I will become one, but I’d have to do more research on this subject. I’ll make sure to watch the videos you linked, and thanks

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Article-58Participant 155]

Damn! I bet you’re the only one who knows what my handle is in reference to!

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[Anonymous 5]

Russky wrote:

If you were born in the West – it is massively more difficult to figure out what’s wrong with the picture unless you are very well read on history and have an inquiring mind of a skeptic.

I’m not taking anything away from Ayn Rand, she was one of the greatest minds of the 20th century, but you’re right here.
I believe Rand’s exposure to two totally different societies made it far easier to conceptualise the fundamentals, or “See the forest from the trees” in a way that would be almost impossible for someone to have only lived the experience of one society, no matter how much they learnt from research.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Article-58 wrote:

Damn! I bet you’re the only one who knows what my handle is in reference to!

I know the subject matter, but I didn’t know it was Article 58 – I had to look it up. Interesting! I guess I learn something new every day
And yes, we now live in very dangerous times, and I totally see something like this implemented again. Only this time it will be much easier for the ruling class to crush dissent. Evil used to be very simple back in the days of Article 58, but with today’s technology evil is scientific and immensely more sophisticated. Depopulation agenda is so deeply embedded in the society, that even the smartest people refuse to believe that this is where it’s going or that it is pure evil, and even support it in one way or another. S~~~ is crazy

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Article-58Participant 155]

No s~~~!

People have no idea this is what awaits them in the near future :

 

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[RusskyParticipant 13503]

This is how it used to be, this time it will they won’t have to do it – people will line up to pull the trigger on themselves to save the Earth or some s~~~ like that

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Article-58Participant 155]

Oh it’ll likely be all the above from vaccines spiked with live viruses through people committing mass murder/suicides from  mandatory prescription SSRI Drugs to Re-education/Extermination “Work Camps”!

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[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

MGTOW is just a label.  It doesn’t do things.  Individual men do.  Unless you do something, nothing will happen.

In the thoughts of MGTOW are a lot of western classic liberal tradition, and MGTOW can be see as a high form of it.  What you do is you find your way, and just claim your own sovereignty.  You also get competent to know how to handle it.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[DakotaParticipant 341]

Article-58 wrote:

Although MGTOW was conceived as freedom from the habitual usery habits of women, it negates the bigger picture of the usery habitual habits of the System (Government)!

It sounds like you’re just itching for a philosophical fight about government.  You shouldn’t have much trouble finding takers.  I would just say that I think you should have posted this topic in Philosophy or Political Corner.

There are many battles to be fought.  MGTOW has identified marriage avoidance as a battle that can be won, at least individually.  Another thing MGTOW is great at is sharing knowledge and tactics of feminazis,  manginas, blue-pill judges, etc.  Invaluable really.

While America currently has a turd in the White House, I don’t think abolishing all authority is doable or desirable.  As has already been said by my Russian friend, the United States Constitution is the greatest document ever written.  It has been adulterated and used primarily as toilet paper for the past 100 years, so you are not able to see its true genius.  I personally would rather have the dip-s~~~s in congress running the show than a bunch of self proclaimed communist/leftist/pinko anarchists.  I hate to p~~~ in your cornflakes but we are all not “the same.”  My crack-head neighbors are pieces of s~~~ and I would prefer that the government is there to bulldoze their house…maybe dump their asses in some s~~~-hole like LA or Detroit, and so yeah, I’ll accept a little brain-washing in return.

There are people in this world who want to keep to themselves, plan for the future, make goals and achieve them, live, learn, love, laugh.  Then there are people who want to s~~~ on everything, hurt other people, ruin other peoples lives and property, “loud pipes save lives,” even though it ruins everyone else’s peace and quiet, take take take, steal rather than work, etc.  The human race is littered with biological diarrhea and while it’s a dirty job, at least we have some good folks who are willing to take out the trash when it starts to pile up.  Talking about trash, my neighbors just got home.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

The elite is all about starting conflict.  Feminism was designed to start NWO.  Of course there’s other things at play.  Now they are starting a race divide.  Frankly the best thing a MGTOW can do is prepare.  Develop multiple skills, save up food and water supplies.  Dropping out of society as much as possible is best thing to do.  When you don’t have conflict there’s little chance you will be physically attacked.

 

Avoiceformen is more of a threat to me than the government for now because these bitches will throw anyone under the bus to get more money and power.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[RoyDalParticipant]

It is plain to me that Western Civilization is collapsing into centrally controlled tyrannies. We just have to do the best we can under extremely difficult circumstances.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Article-58Participant 155]

The Story of your Enslavement :

 

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[Article-58Participant 155]

Epi-Eugenics:

 

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[Article-58Participant 155]

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[Article-58Participant 155]

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