Is MGTOW Sustainable?

[Anonymous 6]

Wassup guys, Venom here. I got a quick question and would like as much input as possible.

What is the future of MGTOW?

When I say future I’m speaking in reference to children. Alot of guys here, especially the younger guys don’t have kids. And from a biological standpoint, we leave no legacy behind. In my opinion, I would love to have a son, I just don’t want the bulls~~~ that comes with a wife. But with the way marriage is nowadays, marriage is pretty much off the table. If the situation was different, and marriage was more conducive to a better situation for men, i wouldn’t mind it.

MGTOW can’t have longevity if we’re not grooming the next generation, AKA our sons. So what should be done for the guys who may not want to be married but also would like to leave a biological legacy behind??

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Anonymous wrote:

When I say future I’m speaking in reference to children. Alot of guys here, especially the younger guys don’t have kids. And from a biological standpoint, we leave no legacy behind.

You are working from the assumption that most men have the option of having a legacy in the form of children.

In this nation, the woman get custody of the children and the woman teaches the children to hate the father, while the father is forced to pay for all this by the state under threat of imprisonment without trial.

That is not a legacy, that is a living hell.

If there is no option that is not point worrying about it. And given how narcissistic most women are, with the state rewarding the pity behavior of women and punishing acts of responsibility by men, there is no point in having anything to do with women.

MGTOW does not grow from father to son. MGTOW grows in the in presence of an ever increasing corrupted society.

[Anonymous 42]

You should be asking the Snowflakes if the Hive is sustainable? Is feminism and gynocentrism sustainable?

Either way I don’t give a f~~~, the modern clusterf~~~ of marriage has given us enough time and distance to examine the TRADCON ways and figure we’ve always been getting f~~~ed, just that now it’s beyond imaginable.

F~~~ legacy, f~~~ tradition, let it all go to hell! (its unstoppable destiny)

I’m not burning in the flames for Missy and I’m not going to be a slave on the plantation!

Legacy Smegacy!

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

MGTOW is sustained by the individual. If you choose to throw yourself back on to the plantation that has no effect on me.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[HitmanParticipant]

it’s the most natural thing in the world to want a child venom.
things are fucked up beyond any repair.
FUBAR.
i advise to wait.
then wait some more.
i mean bro,
you can father a kid at any age..
just you have a 50/50 chance boy or girl.
unless you adopt a son.

[Anonymous 43]

MGTOW is sustainable as long as the divorce court exists in it’s present form.
I don’t see a way for the divorce court to be reformed. The entire society would have to collapse completely, and we have total anarchy for a couple of generations before the courts are reset. We would need to wait until the women collectively forget how much power we idiot men gave them, or the women would need to realize that they are absolutely f~~~ed without a man.

Right now that system is so far out of balance that there is no easy correction. Are you going to say from this point forward, the cases will be reviewed fairly? What about my case, or the millions of cases already adjudicated? Can I have a redo on a more even playing field?

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

MGTOW isn’t something you groom children for. My father wasn’t MGTOW (obviously), yet here I am. You can’t force someone to see the truth anyway. MGTOW are probably mostly children of blue pill manginas who refused to follow the same stacked set of rules that their ancestors followed for generations.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[MACHOParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

MGTOW does not grow from father to son. MGTOW grows in the in presence of an ever increasing corrupted society.

MGTOW exist because of evil women crushing men’s lives! So..as long as they are this vicious / narcissist bitches MGTOW will just keep on growing and growing and growing until a more natural order comes about! A Natural order comes about naturally, it cannot be forced or imposed from the outside.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[bladeParticipant]

Have a child and you will learn more about pain than been a father . I would swap the pain of child birth with a woman any day than the years of torture they and the system inflict on you and the child .

I would rather have a torn c~~~ thats fixed up in a day than my heart torn out threw my arsehole that lasts for ever .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Johndom999Participant 376]

“Surrogacy” is the best way to go. I read all the comments & was rather surprised no one mentioned “Surrogacy”. The number of men having children today, via “Surrogacy”, has increased fourfold compared to 20 years ago. More & more men r waking up.

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Unfortunately , outside of Adopting a child or paying a Surrogate mother, you are better laying the idealist in you to rest.

I Suppose, if you cant find it within yourself to let the Idea go , execution in getting what you want has everything to do with winning a custody battle. At this point there Isn’t much legacy left to leave for men. Trying to do so , can be Suicidal(Irony) and is most suitable to those who have or create advantages.

To answer your question it would be best to Consider what caused MgTOW. Heres a little more Irony. History repeats itself.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

As long as theres gynocentrism there will be MGTOW.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[hollowtipsParticipant 681]

If it’s a philosophy it can always be passed on to other people regardless of their age or generation they come from. We technically don’t need to have children to pass it on. But worse case scenario you get a surrogate under contract.

But ideally situations will change in the next 10-15 years and when they do the men who waited on the sidelines will command a massive amount of resources compared to the enslaved married men.

[AttonParticipant]

MGTOW can’t have longevity if we’re not grooming the next generation

MGTOW is the product of unregulated gynocentrism that often destroys the lives of men. Boys will see the effect this has on men and they will learn. It simply isn’t genetic but to think about it all men are fathers. As it stands the role of the father in view of the law is as an ATM machine. The law demands men pay for children, while at the same time denying them access to them. The role of a father isn’t exclusively as a provider work horse, but to enforce rule and educate. But the law cares not, for that reason any man who pays taxes is kind of a father. The tax payer(men) and the biological father are too often on equal footing.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Dude the answer to your question is simple. Just adopt or hire a surrogate. You don’t need to have a woman to have a child. I have made the conscious decision to become a father in the right time. Once I am finished with my Master’s degree, I will start to consider fathering a child. You can sustain your legacy without a woman. Besides, a child would be better off with me than some single mother…

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[CurmudgeonParticipant 64]

Anonymous wrote:

I would love to have a son, I just don’t want the bulls~~~ that comes with a wife.

Venom: Wanting a son is natural and rewarding on many levels. Not wanting a wife and associated bulls~~~ is smart. Consider the above responses and continue to review the MGTOW forums. The agonizing bulls~~~ that so many men have endured is real. I’m a father and grandfather and endured a decade of child extortion (“support”) and anti-family court hell. Know in advance that having a child is expensive on many levels. At least you are aware of the traps involved with ANY female relationS~~~S on every level…even the ‘baby-mommas’ you don’t want to sign a marriage contract with. Be careful brother! Grace and Peace

No Bills No Boss No Bitch

[BritGHOWParticipant 2566]

Those who have have married and/or had kids give the example every day of themselves being ripped asunder in the divorce/family courts, those who do not give the example of the much better life available to those that do not marry or procreate.

MGTOW has longevity and is all but inevitable at this point, examples from both sides will teach the next generation whether they are your progeny or not that marriage and procreation are terrible options for men, the resultant acceleration of already falling birthrates will call society’s longevity into question long before MGTOW’s.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Johndom999 wrote:

“Surrogacy” is the best way to go. I read all the comments & was rather surprised no one mentioned “Surrogacy”. The number of men having children today, via “Surrogacy”, has increased fourfold compared to 20 years ago. More & more men r waking up.

Yes and if you want to know how to go about it ask the gay community.
I believe there is a network in Canada that is legal. They provide surrogates to gay couples and single men.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

You can also adopt… I was adopted 🙂

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[Anonymous 12]

Faust For Science wrote:

Venom wrote:

When I say future I’m speaking in reference to children. Alot of guys here, especially the younger guys don’t have kids. And from a biological standpoint, we leave no legacy behind.

I see no issue to fix.

A) As soon as your sperm leaves your Body, you no longer control it or the consequences of it.
Like a video on the net.

B) The Female is in control.
The female can stop a surrogacy contract at the last minute and get a judge to agree: Its her kid, even though its your juice.
– the contract is worthless.
– You are the father, she is the mother.
– pay up bitch!

C) If you have a kid, it will live in this feminist lala land.
Thank you for making an innocent being suffer. Thank you for feeding the system with new humans to dominate, indoctrinate and turn into a blue pill little teenie. Awesome. Well done!

D) You might still live in the illusion that you will have a lasting effect on society or humanity.
You won´t. As soon as the last person you ever knew forgets your face and name, you, and all you ever did are gone for good.
“legacy” pulls the same fear-based strings as “dying alone”.
Your bloodline is weak.
Winter is coming.
You will not survive if you still have such thoughts.

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