Is MGTOW about women?

[StealthParticipant 5328]

If you read mainstream descriptions of MGTOW, they usually describe us as woman-hating, anti-feminist, misogynists. Which is all true. Occasionally people confuse it with guys who have sworn off sex, or guys who would rather be getting laid but can’t.

But if you ask me what MGTOW is, the answer is that it is a simple armchair philosophy that says you are free to be a man and live the life you want, without caving to demands of society around you. It’s a kind of distilled version of being an independent agent –– in the literary, Luciferian sense (that’s right, you heard me draw a parallel between MGTOW and Satanism… but that lecture for another time), mixed with new-wave anti-consumerism.

If MGTOW is not primarily a stance regarding women, then why all the complaining about women from MGTOWs? My theory is that it is encounters with women that breaks most of us from our blue pill shell and thrust a red pill perspective upon us. When these infantilized humans ramp up their entitlement and cries for death precisely when our blood is on the line, and are least loyal where it is most unsacred, they show us how vile they are. And when family court backs them up and even encourages them, it initiates red pill rage and guys get forced out of their former naivety, clouding their blue skies.

Women fücking up is the birthplace for our awareness of how evil society can be. We’ve had women show us they are pure evil, and are the source of many of the evils in society. It’s a lesson some men are forced to learn, and this lesson in its infinite variations is summarized by what we call “the Red Pill.” “Face the truth–it ain’t pretty.” These encounters with women cause the clouds to depart from our vision, and we are left with the naked, ugly truth. A bleak picture, often with the nakedest, ugliest woman framed right in the center of it, dancing like a witch on what she believes to be our dead body, though we are very much alive, showing her ignorance and bringing her vile nature to the surface for all to see. And this is the starting picture into a new world. A world ravaged by war. On you. It’s like looking through the viewfinder of the Terminator or Darth Vader tainted red, with statistics pulling up on our new data screen. We are initially challenged to fight back against the evils of the gynocracy, biased family courts, the individual woman in front of us, or tabloid culture, until we realize they are cars on the same train. Which knew where it was going the entire time, and we somehow didn’t see it.

Using what energy he has left, a man can choose to die in the fight or walk away from the drama. This walking away is to become a “man going his own way,” or MGTOW/MGHOW.

Men go their own way even without women, but it is often women that act as a catalyst for “going one’s own way”.

This may not be a super revelation. But from a theoretical stance, the stance toward women is an important question… it is noteworthy how often we do talk about women when MGTOWs are supposedly walking away from women. I believe the central role of women in most men going their own way is the answer.

Often, guys who had never seen themselves as independent previously, move beyond considering their new relations toward women, and find freedom in every aspect of their life.

I’m not saying women transform us into men, or that women show us the truth per se. Women force ugliness and violence into one’s life that would not have otherwise been there, when previously naive and pursuing what seemed beautiful or healthy. Women suck the life out of us to a point that we have to become aware of it in order to survive. That need to survive which forces us to take the red pill, acknowledge the truth, and move on with our own damn life. Just my two cents on the question.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Makes sense to be bro. Good thinking

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Stealth wrote:

If you read mainstream descriptions of MGTOW, they usually describe us as woman-hating, anti-feminist, misogynists.

Because living for your own interests instead of women’s interests or society’s interests MUST be based on hate. /sarcasm

Seriously, though, it should be no surprise that those people who depend utterly on men remaining their chumps would say anything to keep men on their plantation. As if their opinions even matter. The moment you Go Your Own Way, you see how irrelevant the mainstream is.

[JakeParticipant 908]

It musk kill the bitches to see us happy.

[EGParticipant 1851]

Stealth wrote:

Women force ugliness and violence into one’s life that would not have otherwise been there,

No truer words…

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22506]

Jake wrote:

It musk kill the bitches to see us happy.

I think it kills them more that a guy isn’t a resource/atm for a woman. Gynosociety hates men who aren’t being tapped like a keg. Its why they try so hard to make men believe their life sucks/they aren’t real men/who’s going to help you if you don’t have a woman.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Branched offParticipant 10923]

To go your own way, there needs to be a normal way that you are turning away form. The normal way is to serve women. The women gave us reason to leave the normal path.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Gravel PitParticipant]

MGTOW is about men living sovereign. Self ownership. We’ve been saying that verbatim for 7 years.

The MSM and Femtards cant handle that definition because it means MEN own themselves and dont have to serve anyone… so they make up phony baloney narratives about us being “fill in blank” (eynsells, f@gs, neck-beards, peter pans, pedos, misogynists… etc…) None of those terms really fit at all.

The truth is, there is something stinking-rotten to the core in modern women, and society acts like its no biggie, and instead, fronts the delusion that women are princess nurturer victim heroes … while they drown babies they made via sperm jacking, while they pop antidepressants and spend money they dont have.

How many women live with other women because theyre too lousy with finances and cant lease their own place? How many women move back in with parents? How many young women are on food stamps and disability for “mental illness” ? Answer, MANY!

I think all the “Failure to Launch” syndrome crap should be exposed in the female community.
These hoes drink like sailors and cant even “adult”

[StealthParticipant 5328]

Branched off wrote:

The women gave us reason to leave the normal path.

Exactly. A lot of us were great slaves, but women drove us off for being loyal, etc.
Women serve as the transition.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[MonkParticipant 16977]

Whilst it is usually – but not always, it must be said – bad experiences with wimmin that push men to discover MGTOW, MGTOW itself is simply about reclaiming sovereignty. The clue is in the name.

Wimmin are just part of a much bigger Blue Pill setup.

Once a man starts dropping the Red Pill, all sorts of things become clearer. He finds that there are more shackles to throw off – financial, physical and mental – than those associated with wimmin.

[Sky-OParticipant 18934]

MGTOW is about women.

As much as oncology is about tumors.

Oncology studies tumors. Every aspect of them. And when a tumor is affecting a healthy body: It must be removed from that body.

MGTOW is essentially oncology

The study and research of tumors as well as treatment for removing tumors.

The Red Pill is chemotherapy and surgery.

Once the tumor is removed, it becomes irrelevant at that point.

So yes. MGTOW is in fact about women. Just as much as oncology is about tumors.

MGTOW

Men Getting Tumors Out Willingly

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

Men come to to MGTOW because of Women…

The Red Pill reveals the TRUTH about so MUCH MORE than just Female Nature…

Men Walk Away for THEMSELVES.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

It’s true, women are malignant and will spread to every aspect of your life.

You should have seen my 88 year old mother flip out when my 40 year old nephew with three kids and his 26 year old brother decided not to work one day. Old feminists know the score. The game is rigged. Even if you don’t play and get married to some depreciating asset you will pay a goodly portion of your salary in taxes that go straight to women.

As MGTOW we should be talking about how to defund women. Get rid of the VAWA for one. That exists only to fund lesbian cabals on college campuses.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[bstoffParticipant 4863]

MGTOW is simply living independently and for ourselves, in any way we choose.

There are both men and women who take issue against this, but ultimately, the choice is always ours to go our own way.

[MonkParticipant 16977]

Awakened wrote:

Men come to to MGTOW because of Women… The Red Pill reveals the TRUTH about so MUCH MORE than just Female Nature… Men Walk Away for THEMSELVES.

Exactly – wimmin are a catalyst.

[Vajra VarahaParticipant 1283]

Stealth wrote:

If you read mainstream descriptions of MGTOW, they usually describe us as woman-hating, anti-feminist, misogynists. Which is all true. Occasionally people confuse it with guys who have sworn off sex, or guys who would rather be getting laid but can’t.

Point of clarification:
I am not a misogynst.
I am a misanthrope.
I hate everyone equally…..
Just to be clear. LMAO

[EGParticipant 1851]

Monk wrote:

Whilst it is usually – but not always, it must be said – bad experiences with wimmin that push men to discover MGTOW, MGTOW itself is simply about reclaiming sovereignty. The clue is in the name.
Wimmin are just part of a much bigger Blue Pill setup.
Once a man starts dropping the Red Pill, all sorts of things become clearer. He finds that there are more shackles to throw off – financial, physical and mental – than those associated with wimmin.

Bingo.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

It was the man hating proto-feminists of the 1800’s that drove a stake into the heart of marriage. Men weren’t suing for anything from women. Even dying in war was accepted by men.

Modern man knows that women have been raised to hate them and 150 years of pro-woman, anti-man laws have so shifted the legal field, especially in family law (who invented that anyway…) where proof and evidence is set aside for her feelz.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[EGParticipant 1851]

I’ve been careful so far to NOT draw parallels between MGTOW and LGBTQ but this one can’t be ignored because it’s both so obvious and important: the blue pills are flushed down the toilet all at once as soon as an alphabet guy (LGBTQ and whatever else they decide to add later on) accepts that he doesn’t want the lifestyle that often goes along with marrying a chick. MGTOW guys have to figure it out over the long term. But the message at the end is still the same message: you don’t need a woman to make your life complete.

[EGParticipant 1851]

Put another way: the red pill means not needing to accept any woman or women’s power over you into your life.

I know this might not gel with everyone, but I’ve always felt that the acceptance of the fact you need no woman to make you complete is the first step out of the closet. That’s NOT to say that you are in any sort of closet if your belief system means you need no woman to make you complete, period. I don’t believe rejecting female pressure in your life makes you gay. But I think a lot of gay guys know that you don’t need to accept female pressure into your life to make you a man.

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