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Hello gentlemen,
I am in my early 20s and will be attending to university next year (because education is inflated to the point that university degree is a mandatory step to earn some money for a living). Every now and then, I keep find myself on a slippery slope of my personal values. The one value that has always in my life is Loyalty.
How did I acquire Loyalty?
Since young, I read fictional and historical stories of honorable heroes who sacrifice themselves for a cause or belief. Common example would be Superman defending his world and William Wallace defending the Scots. I am aware that some may find it foolish and unrealistic, but I can’t help but admire the inspiring respects radiating from these people. Even if I didn’t witness the heroes first-hand, their inspirations still reach me.Things I have done under Loyalty:
At child age:- When someone (my father, mother, sisters, etc…) showed me respectable and just attitude, I would immediately dedicate myself to them. I did so to learn more about such manner as it has values I treasure.
- To show my dedication and conscientiousness, I spend most of my time and attention on those people. However, I regret the years of time and efforts I wasted on someone that would never appreciate any of my sacrifice. I could have invest my time and efforts on something more useful for myself (like learning a skill or life experience).
- Of course, through many times of being let down and having my hands bitten while feeding others, I still being a persistent child. Partly I believed that not all people are self-centered and greedy, and partly I still wished to uphold my values because I think that it’s just the right thing to do. I carried the same demeanor until my time in high school. All while trying to spread the positive aura around the faculties and students, and to not mix personal feelings into a more professional environment. (Yes, I did considered my high school to be a professional area. I was lucky enough to be in an institution that has many professional-minded and effective teachers. I find such manners are beneficial to me if I have them too.)
- Due to being an introvert in my early years and hard to open up to others, I tend to be very clingy to others as well. That includes my friends and dates. However, it didn’t take long for me to realize that being clingy makes me awkward and that girls and women in these societies are not worth the commitment.
At current age:
After high school graduation, my friends traveled abroad for university. I am alone again in this toxic society. Gynocentrism aside, there are many other factors that made this society uninhabitable. Corruption, government inefficiency, tyranny (what’s illegal for citizens are legal for elite positions), uncomfortable collectivism (yes, it’s more uncomfortable than my “clinginess” <– if that is even an English word), and superstitious-minded people, all these made a really bad place to live in.- Somehow, it came to my mind that if I’m not happy with the setting or environment, I should change it for the better, not just for me but also for the new lads that’s about to step in this society. That results in awry, because the people here think that it’s foolish to defy the tyrant’s decrees and the only way of living is to let him have his way, both physically and psychologically. In the end, it looks like a single human facing his enemy, the Cthulhu. You know, the giant always chaotic evil monster, and can either kill or drive humans into insanity just by them looking at or knowing its existence.
I’ve gone into a very long list already so I’ll wrap it up here. Sometimes, I questioned about myself if I’m a firm believer of loyalty or just a stubborn unreasonable fool. This time, I would like to hear your opinion about the value of loyalty. Generally, would it be a good or bad for someone if they possessed loyalty as their value? Please share your philosophy and enlighten me, I’m happy to welcome them.
Anonymous54I think it is a good quality, but can by betsowed on the non deservinge.But dont confuse it with being needy.They are very different.
Loyalty must be reciprocated.
My dig died 4 years ago. I dont know if I am yet over struggleing with my loyalty to her to get another.
You will recieve more loyalty from a Dog than anywhere else.
wow, you broke the forum!
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
Loyalty like respect is earned. This is a good attribute.
Blind loyalty is not a good thing, as it is not earned.wow, you broke the forum!
I second that.
There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
The only person whose loyalty you can know is your own – you can never truly know if others are loyal to you.
Therefore, live your life for yourself while helping people who seem trustworthy with small things at first. Do not expect people to help you back, but if they do then reward that by continuing to help them. The most you can hope for is a long history of trustworthy behavior that makes it less likely for them to be disloyal.
It’s not flawed and inferior as long as YOU value it,who cares what others think,
I would say though in todays world it’s rare,like truth,honesty,respect,morality,ethics,ect.
Also I kind of like the wide open space of this forum,good job,I VALUE what you did!
Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
Loyalty is a male ideal, not by any means a universal value.
Behind every miserable man there is a very happy woman.
It’s an internal conflict in me. I think there are other aspects I have to keep in mind too.
- First, it’s the personal logic and reasoning. That would prevent blind loyalty from reappearing. Some prefer Reason before Honor, others prefer Honor before Reason. While I keep both in moderation, because Honor has always run in my soul and one way to get rid of it is to remove my soul, and Reasoning capability is the essential part to make one’s philosophy coherent to other people.
- Lastly, the courtesy of “Treat others like how you want to be treated.” As we all know, we don’t need to be overly formal or worship people we meet as if they’re superior. Of course, we don’t need to be obnoxious to others either. (I can only think of most women’s behavior at the moment.) Just simply treat others as your equal.
Heh! Tough luck, debauched warlord. It seems that the only way of having your way with me is over my dead body.
Loyalty is a male ideal, not by any means a universal value.
Please elaborate. I’d like to have details of it.
(By the way, I apologize for the messy original post. I guess I’m still new to these codes.)
I see loyalty as a mix of trust, dependability and integrity , ethics and moral, it´s a vague quality that means something else to each and everyone, it needs to be dosed cautiously and be justified.
My dig died 4 years ago. I dont know if I am yet over struggleing with my loyalty to her to get another.
Humans are just not capable of reaching this level of loyalty. Love dogs too I´d love to have one or two one day. Unfortunately they´ll never reach our age.
Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche
You will recieve more loyalty from a Dog than anywhere else.
The only person whose loyalty you can know is your own – you can never truly know if others are loyal to you.
Loyalty is a male ideal, not by any means a universal value.
Whenever I meet a new person I pay close attention to what they talk about if they talk about people, not ideas I know immediately not to trust them. Some might say that “they only talk s~~~ on f~~~s they don’t like, they would never talk s~~~ on me” to believe this is foolish. Haters will always hate, avoid them at all costs. Surround yourself with people who seek to lift you and others up with good attitudes and ideas not drag you and others through the muck with s~~~-talking.
If you do encounter or must deal with a s~~~ talker don’t ever let on that you know they are a s~~~ talker you might want to use this toward your advantage one day by planting a false seed knowingly to show a true friend why they might want to wise up and kick the s~~~ talker to the curb thus empowering a community through proof of loyalty.
On a completely different note about your schooling, take a financially impractical course on philosophy as it will help you with the real work of self-actualization. Apart from college teach yourself an actual skill like carpentry, mechanics, or electronics something to fall back on where you can always get work if you decide to ghost.
good luck brother.
When you are loyal to people who aren’t loyal to you…you’re an idiot.
When you take care of the people who take care of you and are honest with you, even when you didn’t ask for it, you’re a good friend.
"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock
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