IS LOVE OF ANY KIND A LIE?

[ZeroMessiahParticipant 0]

I watch the life drain from my body every time I see a stripper enter my line. They are used to getting what they want with nothing more than a smile or at second attempt the raise of their voices. Their vanity and shrill toned inflections of voice breed contempt when I am forced to serve them as a customer. I take my job in stride but I watch as men are continually victimized by their lack of knowledge. Like the song Magdalena by a perfect circle men are helplessly evacuating their bank accounts regularly. At a strip club you will always get f~~~ed but you won’t get laid.

I see whore after whore with makeup applied with the subtlety of spackle come into my store. They pull a sweaty wad of ones from underneath a sagging breast covered in stretchmarks and fading tattoo ink and purchase their cheap booze. I serve them with a smile that can only be bought with hand-sanitizer applied right in front of them. Few notice however as I disinfect myself from their stripper cash.

They flirt with me at just minutes after three and I delight in the Florida law that restricts alcohol sales after hours. Last call lets me see them turn on a dime into the shrieking harpy like creatures that are skin deep beneath the thin veneer of cheap sexuality. As a cashier it is the one time I get to refuse the request of a customer and I relish it for what it is.

So why do I pour my hours into drawing and sketching all manner of pin-ups inspired by that kind of woman? I’m kind of getting sick of porn as it is with it becoming a soft way for a rich man to get around laws on prostitution. I keep seeing women as either sluts, whores, or bitches since I got rid of the pedestal. I am still attracted to voluptuous women even though I know that in the animal world the female either mates and then kills the male or forces the male to build a nest and then quickly dispatches him back into the harsh wilds alone. Why would I still harbor attraction to something so poisonous?

Am I fighting instinct or addiction? I have read the book Manipulated Man by Esther Villar and the blog Pook’s Mill. I have also read and contributed to another blog as well, but I can’t shake the feeling that it is possible, however improbable to have a relationship with a woman that can be mutually satisfying and non-parasitic. Maybe it is because I am so new at this, but I guess my question is simple:

IS LOVE OF ANY KIND A LIE?

DJHIVES once wrote that love is conditional and that is true. What I am asking goes deeper than that article.

Is love itself a process of lying to yourself about that other person?

[…Spectator 1165]

ZeroMessiah: there are a lot of opinions about love on here. check out the relations~~~s section. i had tried to hard to believe in love as well….they can kill feelings off pretty fast. i think “love” has to do more with chemicals that both men and women create and it is fleeting. you’ll find a lot of opinions here about this. stick around

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

I believe love as a concept is different for men and women. You can love a woman simply for WHO she is, but that is a foreign concept to women. They will love what you do for them, or how you make them feel, but they do not love you. I don’t know if that helps you any, but once you figure that out everything else that men and women do in regards to relationships make complete sense.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Spot on and precisely put, Smitty.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Well, I wouldn’t be lying if I said I loved your intro. Poetic.

IS LOVE OF ANY KIND A LIE?

No. It’s true and exists.

Love is an overwhelming desire to GIVE.
The people we give the most to… are the ones we love the most.
….even when it doesn’t come back to you.

If you listen to the way women talk about it, they think love is something they GET. They think it’s something they “find”. And when they are not “getting”…. they are miserable and unfulfilled. You will hear women constantly wondering “when will I FIND love”…. bulls~~~ like “let love COME to you”…. even Celine Dion sings “love comes to those who believe it”. All bulls~~~. It’s lazy and selfish.

Love isn’t what you GET. It’s what you GIVE.
And you don’t need a woman’s permission or to wait to have plenty of love in your life.
You can love (and give) to whoever you want, whenever you want.
It depends on no external factors.

We can love our work. Love ourselves. Love our jobs. Love our cars. Whatever. In fact, when you give to (love) YOURSELF, the rewards are unfathomable. Because whatever you put in, YOU will get out. Women are made “happy” by the love they receive an it’s what they are waiting for. But men are made happy by the love we GIVE – it doesn’t matter to whom. It creates a sense of purpose.

I’m a man, and here I am clearly defining it. But if you ask a woman, she can’t tell you. They spout all kinds of monkey s~~~ and toss the word around like a frisbee, but they don’t have a clue what it MEANS. Ask a woman about love and she will say “It’s feeling you can’t describe…. you can’t put it into words…. you just know it when you FIND it”.

Bulls~~~.

Love works like this:

MEN >> WOMEN >> CHILDREN >> PUPPIES.

It’s one-directional and it never works in reverse.
So as long as your dishing it out…. make sure you’re on the receiving end of most of it.

Nobody else will.

Welcome to MGTOW.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[floartyParticipant 17]

Wow @keymaster

You put something in words again I couldn’t clearly define in words.

What I’m doing now is: love my self, love my life and improve it, put love into my job and spend my time and resources for my family and friends.

 

Maybe a bit offtopic but another story related to being the “giver”:

I looked through my bank statements of last year. I had a girlfriend that year. In total, I spend around 25,000€ on her. What the f*ck.

Friends always told me that I’m spending too much money for her while I was with her, but I couldn’t see it. I was so blind. They even told me a lot that she’s just abusing me. I didn’t believe them and was angry on them for interfering with my relationship.

When I looked through that transactions after being clear again (took me ~half a year) I sometimes sat there with mouth open, wondering how or why I was able to spend so much money in so short time. Sometimes I just took 500€ in cash from ATM, and 3 days later, 200€ again. How did I spend that money so fast? And on what? I don’t remember. If I would’ve invested that money into my business instead, it would’ve grown a lot now…

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Maybe a bit offtopic but another story related to being the “giver”. I looked through my bank statements of last year. I had a girlfriend that year. In total, I spend around 25,000€ on her. What the f*ck.

Perfect example. “giving”. And as long as you are giving and giving and giving and giving and giving and giving and giving and she is getting and getting and getting and getting and getting and getting …. you’ll think you’re in a “loving” relationship. But you ain’t.

SHE is.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[…Spectator 1165]

FLOarty: a decent one is never less than 40……..

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