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Hello, everybody!
I’ve stumbled just now, surfing randomly, on this whole MGTOW thing. But as far back as I could remember I was on red pills. So, without further ado, here is a story:I went to a place twice or so a week for 5 minutes at a time and a couple of female employees there began to show their interest in my bare finger. I found one more attractive than the other and eventually was like “OK, give me your number”. When I called her, she didn’t so much as pick it up. All right, I thought, that’s it, bye-bye and good luck, and I’ve never been to that place again. After a while I was told by some guys, that she was looking very upset. And from a little inspection of her Instagram account I gather the impression that she felt like I was like that once in a lifetime “true love” shot for her, and that maybe she is even a virgin (in her late twenties) and now in danger of remaining so forever. It’s been a year, and I can’t really shake her out of my mind, and kind of wish her well, or, in other words, that she found a guy to rip off. And, of course, I still wouldn’t mind going to bed with her with no strings attached… So, I am considering going back there and like giving her a second chance to get briefed on what’s really her goal in life. I would already have done that the first time, had she not been so silly and shy and f~~~ed up by her own mother.
But, here is the question: isn’t it, in some moral sense perhaps, a bad idea to deliberately give them the red pills?
Isn’t it, in some moral sense perhaps, a bad idea to deliberately give them the red pills?
Female anger is the weathervane of truth.
The more truth you tell a man, the more enlightened, grateful and delighted he gets. Even when it doesn’t taste very good. You can fiercely tell another man “SHUT THE F~~~ UP AND LISTEN” . . . .and he will understand that he’s probably about to learn something of VALUE.
Tell the same thing to a woman, and she thinks you’re being cruel.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Female anger is the weathervane
Well, yes. “You’re angry, Jupiter, therefore you’re in error.”
But that’s not it. I don’t care how they take it. But if they smarten up – they are pretty clever in these things as it is – that’ll only facilitate them to go better at unprepared and unsuspecting males.
Anonymous6Isn’t it, in some moral sense perhaps, a bad idea to deliberately give them the red pills?
Female anger is the weathervane of truth.
The more truth you tell a man, the more enlightened, grateful and delighted he gets. Even when it doesn’t taste very good. You can fiercely tell another man “SHUT THE F~~~ UP AND LISTEN” . . . .and he will understand that he’s probably about to learn something of VALUE.
Tell the same thing to a woman, and she thinks you’re being cruel.
That’s so true, I’ve chewed my friends ass up one side and down the other, but he listened and learned. I’ve even done that a few guys who weren’t friends with the same results. Chicks however respond with, “you’re mean!” And then they shut down and/or start crying.
Chicks however respond with, “you’re mean!”
Let it be music to your ears.
that’ll only facilitate them to go better at unprepared and unsuspecting males.
As long as they don’t get at YOU when they work their asses off to do so. Not every man can be equipped like Batman. The simps and white knights need a lesson anyway. White Knights are the worst.
When I called her, she didn’t so much as pick it up.
So, I am considering going back there
Why.
It’s men going their own way. Not “men chasing after chicks who don’t call”. You showed interest once, and if she doesn’t respond, she doesn’t exist. If you’re still compelled to go anywhere for chicks, don’t go to the ones that don’t call you. PLENTY OF OTHERS WILL.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.She flaked on you and for some reason you want to help her with her life?
It seems like you’re feeding into her lack of accountability for her actions and developing feelings for her and you don’t know a thing about her.
Keep your head on straight. Things aren’t always stay they seem to be.
Why.
It’s men going their own way. Not “men chasing after chicks who don’t call”. You showed interest once, and if she doesn’t respond, she doesn’t exist. If you’re still compelled to go anywhere for chicks, don’t go to the ones that don’t call you. PLENTY OF OTHERS WILL.
EXACTLY!
You’re not “giving her another chance”. You’re just acting desperate.
Since you called her, I’m pretty sure she has your number. She could’ve called back, but hey, I guess she was too “hurt” and “sad” to call you back.
So, I am considering going back there and like giving her a second chance
One chance.
Per chick.
Per lifetime.
She already had her chance. Do not give her another anything.
you don’t know a thing about her.
Well, negative on that. I have her figured out quite accurate, on good information, having a bit of a background in PR stuff professionally.
if she doesn’t respond, she doesn’t exist
I know that’s the rule to follow. But such silly s~~~ had never happened to me before. I mean, chicks didn’t show up for an agreed upon date a couple of times, but this was different – she wanted a date rather badly, but didn’t give me a chance to even set it in the first place (to give her a chance), evidently assuming that I was fully on the hook. In fact, she went on vacation with her family for a couple of weeks and upon return and my next visit to her workplace was very cordial in her attitude only to meet my “do I know you?” look. And only after that I rearranged my routes, so she could freely switch her attention to someone else, which I thought she would do, and which she hasn’t done.
Point is, I repeat, she seems kind of real nice (and real pretty), but terribly f~~~ed up by her social background and totally lacking in experience.
I realize it may look like I did get on the hook, and I have to admit a, uhm… residual romantic attachment or whatever… But that’ll get her nowhere with me. Well, let’s just say I can’t but feel curious as to what was her exact take on the situation, and feel personally safe to act upon my curiosity.
What holds me back at this point is only this notion that illuminating females on the reality of gender role play that’s going on in society (which is basically my way of staying above water while in a relationship) is akin to giving gangsters more guns and ammo… But, on the second thought, stores and banks – those that go on in the “open for robbery” mode of operation – will be robbed anyway. So no harm done, or what?
On a side note, by the way, I’m also mulling over an idea, which seems kinda fun, namely, to buy me a wedding ring, so as to pass for “spoiled goods”, at first sight at least, which will save time and effort for the both parties of potential future misunderstandings…
Isn’t it, in some moral sense perhaps, a bad idea to deliberately give them the red pills?
Female anger is the weathervane of truth.
The more truth you tell a man, the more enlightened, grateful and delighted he gets. Even when it doesn’t taste very good. You can fiercely tell another man “SHUT THE F~~~ UP AND LISTEN” . . . .and he will understand that he’s probably about to learn something of VALUE.
Tell the same thing to a woman, and she thinks you’re being cruel.
That’s so true, I’ve chewed my friends ass up one side and down the other, but he listened and learned. I’ve even done that a few guys who weren’t friends with the same results. Chicks however respond with, “you’re mean!” And then they shut down and/or start crying.
The more wrong you tell a woman she is, the more right she becomes. The more right you tell her she is, the less right she becomes.
you don’t know a thing about her.
Well, negative on that. I have her figured out quite accurate, on good information, having a bit of a background in PR stuff professionally.
if she doesn’t respond, she doesn’t exist
I know that’s the rule to follow. But such silly s~~~ had never happened to me before. I mean, chicks didn’t show up for an agreed upon date a couple of times, but this was different – she wanted a date rather badly, but didn’t give me a chance to even set it in the first place (to give her a chance), evidently assuming that I was fully on the hook. In fact, she went on vacation with her family for a couple of weeks and upon return and my next visit to her workplace was very cordial in her attitude only to meet my “do I know you?” look. And only after that I rearranged my routes, so she could freely switch her attention to someone else, which I thought she would do, and which she hasn’t done.
Point is, I repeat, she seems kind of real nice (and real pretty), but terribly f~~~ed up by her social background and totally lacking in experience.
I realize it may look like I did get on the hook, and I have to admit a, uhm… residual romantic attachment or whatever… But that’ll get her nowhere with me. Well, let’s just say I can’t but feel curious as to what was her exact take on the situation, and feel personally safe to act upon my curiosity.
What holds me back at this point is only this notion that illuminating females on the reality of gender role play that’s going on in society (which is basically my way of staying above water while in a relationship) is akin to giving gangsters more guns and ammo… But, on the second thought, stores and banks – those that go on in the “open for robbery” mode of operation – will be robbed anyway. So no harm done, or what?
On a side note, by the way, I’m also mulling over an idea, which seems kinda fun, namely, to buy me a wedding ring, so as to pass for “spoiled goods”, at first sight at least, which will save time and effort for the both parties of potential future misunderstandings…
You’ve never had a woman flake on you? That’s what she did. Happens often. Has happened lots to me. Esp with women who were all over me, even insisting I take their number. It’s a game they play. They s~~~ test you to see how you react. If she wanted to date so badly, she did she make zero effort to contact you? If she felt like you were some unicorn “true love”, when why didn’t she pick up the phone? Why didn’t she call you? She’s playing games. Probably telling others you know some bait to keep you interested. Stop fighting what you know. Because your posts indicate you’re still sucking down red pills despite trying to convince us you’re taking red pills. She blew you off, move on. No sense getting attached to this girl. Oneitis’s aren’t good.
You’ve never had a woman flake on you?
As I’ve said, I had. Which is part to why I think it wasn’t it this time.
why didn’t she pick up the phone?
That’s what interests me the most.
She’s playing games.
Most certainly not. When they play games, they give you something. And usually talk a lot on the phone with you, just to hear time and again how cool they are, or how p~~~ed you are by not getting what you want. She never once heard either of that from me.
Most certainly not.
They are ALWAYS playing games.
Dude, you’ve found a unicorn!! Seek her out no matter what the cost and put a ring on it already!
Ok, sarcasm aside, do whatever you want to do. You asked for advice, you got it, and you want to ignore it. So ignore it. You’re a grown ass man.
Good luck to you though if you decide to ignore the advice. Be on the look out for s~~~ tests. By going back you will have already failed the first one.
Order the good wine
One and done kind of post. Doesn’t sound right.
Peace is > piece.
You asked for advice, you got it
What I asked was: when they turn the vacuum cleaner on and I do not want to get sucked in, is it OK to tell them something along the lines “Look, I’m a male monkey and want this, and you are a female monkey and want that, etc…” Or should I just be like “Look, I’m going to be such a strange and uncommon dick, and make of it what you will”.
Anonymous12No.
When they turn the vacuum cleaner on, the time for speaking has gone.
What you do is leave so you do not get sucked in.
Why explain anything, why talk?
Walk.If now you are tempted to play with fire, and want the vacuum cleaner to keep running with you two having a conversation…
i would say:
“You either use the opportunity i give you or do not.”
Its a black/white or yes/no kind of situation.
Anything else than a “yes i want a date” is not acceptable and is to be interpreted as a NO.
No half answers, no grey areas, no ifs and buts…She has 5 seconds.
If she does not answer with a strong YES in 5 seconds, stop wasting more seconds on her.The background reasons are totally irrelevant.
Anonymous12One more thing…
The only allegiance i swore, was to myself.
Do not betray yourself or lie to yourself.
When a man tells you that you are lying to yourself… the least you can do is to listen and think.- AuthorPosts
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