Is it all overpopulation fault?

[Dez82Participant 107]

I was just thinking..
MGTOWs, Japan herbivores, what if such behaviors are just Mother Natures’s way to reduce, or at least contain, the number of humans on Earth? Maybe she acts through our unconscious or maybe those behavior are triggered in overcrowded situations. Take locusts for example: the signal to migrate is triggered when they become so squeezed to rub each other legs.
If hypothetically human population dropped to 2 billions people by tomorrow, would such movements cease to exist?

What do you think?

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

In the scheme of things, I would wager that MGTOW came about as a result of technological advancement, and male and female natures. Population comes in to play only in rural areas on account that those areas tend to be less affluent, more socially conservative (i.e. wired for marriage 1.0), and because there are only so many available c~~~s to ride on the carousel. The reasons for one going MGTOW are just as valid at a global population 7+ billion people than at 2 billion.

The Japanese situation is unique in that female expectations that were fomented during the boom years of the 1980s never quite adjusted, leaving the latest generation of men unable to place a bid, so to say.

[UntamedParticipant]

Dez82 wrote:

I was just thinking..MGTOWs, Japan herbivores, what if such behaviors are just Mother Natures’s way to reduce, or at least contain, the number of humans on Earth? Maybe she acts through our unconscious or maybe those behavior are triggered in overcrowded situations. Take locusts for example: the signal to migrate is triggered when they become so squeezed to rub each other legs.If hypothetically human population dropped to 2 billions people by tomorrow, would such movements cease to exist?
What do you think?

Overpopulation can be a factor in certain human behavior for sure, especially in big cities where there is no break from others except at home. But I don’t associate weemins’ warped sense of self and flippant personalities on anything else but themselves. The War on Men didn’t start because weemins don’t have enough room to live, it started from their deluded brains telling them they’re victims. Victims of ANYTHING a man does or even represents.
I wasn’t assigned any excuse when they decided my life was worthless all those years ago so why should I now assign them any?
No. I refuse to make up excuses for their violent behavior and their agenda to eliminate men from society. Let them take their responsibilities as the rest of us do.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Google Mouse Utopia, an experiment by John B. Calhoun.

I believe that overpopulation plays some part in it.

However, there are no more frontiers in which men lead the way and women cower behind the protection of men.

Now they are coming out of their fox holes and starting s~~~ with non-existent enemies without so much as a word of thanks.

Their self entitlement which demanded being provisioned and protected now extends to being provisioned and protected from the very men that provided this for eons.

There are no more enemies to fight so they manufacture one because they have the time and resources to spend starting s~~~ just because they have too much time on their hands. I have never seen a woman that actually has a job to do and s~~~ to take care of go on slut walks or demand that somebody hand them some money.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Overpopulation has some involvement in it. And it doesn’t just go with femininity, but rather unproductive members of society in general.

[Anonymous 18]

The argument that overpopulation dictates human sexual behavior misses one key factor: humans along with a few closely related monkeys are the only mammals that have sex other than to reproduce.

On the contrary it is quite off-putting for men to schedule sex in the optimum ovulation window to maximize chances of pregnancy. It doesn’t appeal to our ‘subconscious’ to have sex when the chances of pregnancy are highest.

Moreover, MGTOW is more prominent in West than East. Chinese and Indian men are not going their own way to the same extent Western men are.

My conclusion: Population as an effect of sexual behavior is not factored in to a male’s decision to f~~~ with the intention of raising babies. Men f~~~ when they feel like it and have the opportunity to do so. If population played a role, India and China will start to see a decline in population by now. Instead we see a continual rise.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

since everyone knows about “overpopulation” it must come from the so called elites… if u buy the idea of the world is overpopulated from them u might be able turn a blind eye when you see people getting executed or even genocides. As long its not you or your relatives…”well the world is overpopulated anyways”

if u take the world population of 7 billion and they ALL go to AUSTRIA ( look at the map how small Austria is if you dont know ) than EACH citizen has 120 squarefoot space for himself….( thats leaving skyscrapers out of the equation )

maybe the world is overpopulated, but not because there are too many of us, but because of other reasons… theoretically there is space enough for way over 500 billion people.

[heads-upParticipant 320]

Dez82 wrote:

MGTOWs, Japan herbivores, what if such behaviors are just Mother Natures’s way to reduce, or at least contain, the number of humans on Earth?

Guys why make it more cpmplicated than it is.
The social engineering weapon of Feminism is the ROOT cause of men going their own way.
Yes there are other contributing factors but “Mother” nature does not control our system of Laws etc.
Its toxic for men ,that simple.
In countries with serious poverty you find child bearing goes up,where is “Mother” nature in that.They cant afford Mgtow.
Feminism has opened pandoras box and set pure Hypergamy free,set female sexual nature free (and none of us where expecting that outcome to be so Wild),
Feminism set women against all men at all levels with laws to back it up.
If you play stupid games you get stupid prizes.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

yes its social engineering and basically EVERYTHING, has got to be taken to the test. history, science, beliefs etc. etc.

[Anonymous 18]

Ohno wrote:

yes its social engineering and basically EVERYTHING, has got to be taken to the test. history, science, beliefs etc. etc.

The first step is demystefying science. Non-scientists feel overwhelmed by the technical jargon and avoid it altogether like a plague. Everything in science that has upheld scrutiny is simple to explain and understand. The complexities lie in what’s uncertain. I believe the complexity is there to prevent people from asking simple inquisitive questions. TV does a good job in preventing people from a moment of insight. When was the last time one of us took a cup of coffee and just stared out the window?

But even before we can ask a question our society has inbred fear of being ridiculed and has invented labels like conspiracy theorists, tin-foil hats, etc.

When the powers that govern our world don’t want people to ask questions we have created terms that by-pass logical reasonings and appeal straight to our emotions. Hence, we can’t have any constructive dialogue. Such terms include: Nazi, Anti-semitic, Misogynist, Racist, Pervert, Anti-social, and lately terrorist.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Overpopulation is an effect, not a cause. And more important than the total population is the demographic makeup of that population. For decades feminist promoted socialist handouts and feminists biased family courts have been enabling and encouraging unproductive irresponsible gold digging baby momma consumer slores to s~~~ out baby after baby after baby. The daughters grow up to s~~~ out baby after baby themselves, while the sons, unable to have children themselves to support themselves off the taxpayer, turn to crime only to be inevitably locked up in prison waste storage facilities as the toxic byproduct of this socialist dependency farming breeding program. Meanwhile the cost for this irresponsible breeding has been dumped on the shoulders of responsible producers, making it ever more expensive for them to support themselves, much less have children of their own.

Who would have thought that rewarding the irresponsible and punishing the responsible would lead to deep negative consequences and inevitable collapse?

Anyone with half a brain, that’s who.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Big cities, increased mobility, and technology made possible to behave immorally with no consequences.
The pendulum could swing to the other side though, with advent of total loss of privacy. Show me the C~~~FAX

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[BeerParticipant 11832]

The Moth Attracted to the Flame wrote:

Overpopulation has some involvement in it. And it doesn’t just go with femininity, but rather unproductive members of society in general.

I agree sir. Most of the middle class people I know have 1-2 kids. It usually results in a divorce and a guy getting financially demolished and not in a position where he could really afford a bigger family, or in some cases if both partners are making like 30-40k a year, a situation where maybe 4 people living on a total income of 70-80k a year really isn’t a whole ton of money. Sure the average family can get by on this much money but they aren’t saving for retirement or really meeting any financial goals other than getting by another month.

Meanwhile…most the people I know who do have larger families are on all kind of assistance programs, and if they are even working its usually just popping around from joke job to joke job, as if they make too much money their benefits will get cut so why bother?

The reality of the situation is we subsidize irresponsible people who have 6 kids they can’t afford, and hard working folk who would maybe love to have another kid or two think twice about it and often don’t do it…yet their tax money is subsidizing the irresponsible people. Its really like the opposite of natural selection. Its probably going to get ugly as time goes on and we begin to get more and more people who think 6 kids + welfare is a viable life style and less people who are financially intelligent enough to make the decision that maybe 2 kids is all they can afford so they will stop at 2, assuming that the general rule of the apple not falling far from the tree is true for most people. I realize you get some kids raised on welfare who turn out to be amazing hard working people, and some people raised by decent hard working parents who turn into lazy scumbags, but those tend to not be the majority.

[NioZenParticipant 856]

Ohno wrote:

since everyone knows about “overpopulation” it must come from the so called elites… if u buy the idea of the world is overpopulated from them u might be able turn a blind eye when you see people getting executed or even genocides. As long its not you or your relatives…”well the world is overpopulated anyways”
if u take the world population of 7 billion and they ALL go to AUSTRIA ( look at the map how small Austria is if you dont know ) than EACH citizen has 120 squarefoot space for himself….( thats leaving skyscrapers out of the equation )
maybe the world is overpopulated, but not because there are too many of us, but because of other reasons… theoretically there is space enough for way over 500 billion people.

Yup, heard a similar argument re. overpopulation a while back and it made perfect sense to me. Due to poor management (and the small matter of our species being insane) things seem a lot worse than they might otherwise be. But then the Georgia Guidestones said we all have to die, so that’s that I suppose.

(Come on Elon, get working on your rockets son, I need a ride off this rock.)

We only dream this bondage. Wake up and let it go. - Vivekananda

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

sidenote:
be very careful with concept of overpopulation. there are interests out there trying to convince the world of it. and it’s been working like charm. even most critically thinking people I know are not immune to this bug.
when everyone is convinced of supposed overpopulation, it is a lot easier to implement the next step – depopulation.
and gullible people spewing their mouths about overpopulation and about saving the Earth one day – the next day might get depopulated themselves like no big deal.
the other agenda that can be pushed with the help of overpopulation nonsense – is using artificial scarcity to jack up the prices (on energy for example)

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[BeerParticipant 11832]

But we will hit a point where we are overpopulated. Are we there yet? I don’t know…but mother nature will depopulate us eventually by massive plague or starvation…unless WW3 does it for us first.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Beer wrote:

But we will hit a point where we are overpopulated. Are we there yet? I don’t know…

Spend 30 seconds in your nearest walmart and you’ll know.

[Dez82Participant 107]

I read somewhere that feminism is an elites product for containing population number.
In effect, once feminism is planted in a society it starts to slow down its growth.. In India we start to read about feminist battles: maybe within a generation Indians will have to endure the same s~~~ we’re going through and their will to reproduce will begin to subside.
Japan instead doesn’t seems so infected with feminism like western countries.. However it is an overpopulated nation: 127 millions on a surface that can easily fit inside California. Herbivores could be the response for a mix of overpopulation, wealth and extremely demanding society rules (cult of work, over-efficiency, traditions etc..) that bring young boys to ask themselves “does it worth the price?”
However we must remember that a relevant portion of herbivores is female.
The point is: as we react to this situation (that it an explosive mix of overpopulation, feminism, social disintegration and wealth) by going our own way, women reaction is hypergamy, which is both conscious, feminism and wealth, and unconscious, demographic pressure.

[ByronParticipant 465]

Hey guys, this video could shed some light on the question:

[Author]

Posts