Is it a c~~~ or is it a man?

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

I have noticed over the past few months the eagerness of some to get potentially new members “punted”. I recall one individual that had just been divorced raped and had come here to seek advice and be in the company of men. He was emotionally distraught and on the verge of suicide, yet there were those who were like rabid dogs in wanting him punted. I was convinced that he was legitimate and argued on his behalf. I see this trend continuing and am concerned.

So I am going to put up a “What if”. What if a man comes on and is perceived by some to be a troll or feminist or a woman who is simply curious? What if that individual is in extreme emotional pain and is seeking help and advice? What if some on this site perceive him to be a troll or feminist and successfully get him kicked off the site? What if that man commits suicide because there are those that are looking for these “points”? Now we have another man dead and the cold, heartless bitches and feminists have scored another victory.

I don’t know about any of you but I would have a lot of trouble sleeping. I would be in emotional agony because I had failed to give what help I could to a fellow man needing support and advice, just because some of the people on this site want some, frankly, meaningless “points”. A man coming on this site looking for help who is in great emotional distress may not come across as a man completely. His thinking may be skewed and messed up. Maybe he has been so beat down by the system and the women in his life he can’t even think like a man. Maybe he has been emasculated and is looking for healing treatment, support and advice. There were a couple of people on here that were asking questions that could have been females or, simply, young men looking for answers. There are many young men out there that have been raised by women and had no adult, responsible, mature men in their lives to guide and teach them. These young men are looking for guidance and answers. Yet, What do some on here do? Try to get some points for getting someone “punted”.

If it can be reasonably proven someone is on this site that doesn’t belong, then by all means “punt” them. Otherwise, if there is a real possibility that someone is a man looking for help and support or a young man looking for answers then, please, be cautious about trying to get your points.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[joetechParticipant]

Look up a thread called Beware. I was mobbed because I was perceived to be false. It all worked out in the end, but I agree that we sometimes are a bit too full of ourselves around here. I’m not suicidal, but have been perceived to be by those who don’t know me from s~~~. Internet forums can be a mystical place, and some people take things too seriously. We men are constantly being trolled by bitches and fools on and off the internet. I would caution anyone from making snap judgements about strangers, but also recommend anyone engaging in a social setting whether on or off the internet be prudent and not expect too much. We’re not all mature here. But, it’s the best site I’ve found for connecting with people I can say “F~~~ Off” to and still be able to function in the group. Try doing that with women around.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[bstoffParticipant 4863]

While I see your point and sympathize with both you and any guy getting punted for being perceived as a troll; you have to consider that this website is ground zero for a lot of people who would like to destroy it and it’s purpose.
I try to carefully read all of the threads started by suspicious new members, and I’ve found the vast majority of them are, without question, trolls or women who are trying to either subvert the conversations or get responses to post elsewhere in order to discredit our group and its members.
If you want to converse privately with a new member who has been punted, or is in the process of being punted, that’s your prerogative. Maybe you can advise this person to present him or herself differently to gain our trust, if they are worthy of it.
I think the best advice you could give a suspicious new member
is for them to stop trying to defend their behavior and humble themselves asking for forgiveness for their hostility. I know the suspicious members aren’t always hostile in the beginning, but they become hostile when their cover is blown. That is typical behavior of a troll. A member that has aroused suspicion may have emoted in a feminine way, displaying tell-tale female traits that are very easy for a MGTOW to identify. Others have used illogical arguments that a male would never do. That includes a homosexual male as well; he would still have logic and an understanding of the thinking among his fellow men, straight or gay. I think there are a few homosexual members here, who have seen the ugly side of femininity, and are here to get away from it, as well. They may be better at recognizing trolls and fakers than a lot of us.
Anyway. We members have a lot at stake here, and we will not open our doors to people who do not follow MGTOW logic and reasoning. It is a sure sign of someone trying to do us harm.
Like I said, if you want to open your heart to someone trying to gain access here and make statements that bring suspicion upon themselves, that is your own personal risk to take. Maybe you can help them earn our trust. Don’t you dare try using your shaming tactics to try to get us to be vulnerable to them.

[Anonymous 42]

Keymaster gives new members plenty of girth, I’ve never seen him punt a c~~~ that didn’t deserve it! If we call off the junkyard dogs we’ll be overrun in no time and that would destroy the community, making us no better than AVFM, they can take their wounded hamster to AVFM and find some c~~~ that cares…

Nobody is responsible for suicide other than the fool killing himself. It lies on their shoulders just like any decision a man makes, we teach responsibility and self preservation!

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

Maybe a link to the thread/punt in question would be helpful?

I have seen a few of these trolls that talk about suicide in a way that it is obvious that they think they are being sneaky and are planting the seed that we are all losers who have nothing to live for.

If anyone wants to kill themselves, reach out to someone in private, or call an expert. Don’t try to make a show of it on a forum where you are brand new.
I have never known a man who wants to create a huge public drama over his pain. Men quietly go off and do the deed, sadly.
If you are lucky a friend will tell you privately at some point that they are struggling.

[joetechParticipant]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

If anyone wants to kill themselves, reach out to someone in private, or call an expert. Don’t try to make a show of it on a forum where you are brand new.
I have never known a man who wants to create a huge public drama over his pain. If you are lucky a friend will tell you privately at some point that they are struggling.

Then, you haven’t known very many abused men. I would caution anyone against pulling down a fallen soul crying out for help. We’re supposed to be saving lives here…not helping to destroy them. If that sounds like shaming language, tough s~~~!

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

joetech wrote:

Pedal, run, row wrote:

If anyone wants to kill themselves, reach out to someone in private, or call an expert. Don’t try to make a show of it on a forum where you are brand new.
I have never known a man who wants to create a huge public drama over his pain. If you are lucky a friend will tell you privately at some point that they are struggling.

Then, you haven’t known very many abused men. I would caution anyone against pulling down a fallen soul crying out for help. We’re supposed to be saving lives here…not helping to destroy them. If that sounds like shaming language, tough s~~~!

I am not advocating pulling a fallen soul down. I am advocating reaching out to somebody. I have never known a man who created public drama. Knew one guy who just jumped over the side of the ship one night, never said a word to anyone.

Again, I would like to see the thread in question, and maybe you should as well before making stupid accusations.

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

I am hardly new here. I am just trying to ask our menbers to be cautious. I am merely pointing out possible situations. I have no issue kicking someone off the site if they are a c~~~, an asshole, a troll or anyone who is trying to destroy this site. Let’s just say I think the punting MAY be getting out of hand and want us to be careful. This is one reason I like being a man, we can debate things in a logical manner without insulting someone or getting emotional about it. Thank you for your replies, they are definitely food for thought.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

joetech wrote:

Pedal, run, row wrote:

If anyone wants to kill themselves, reach out to someone in private, or call an expert. Don’t try to make a show of it on a forum where you are brand new.
I have never known a man who wants to create a huge public drama over his pain. If you are lucky a friend will tell you privately at some point that they are struggling.

Then, you haven’t known very many abused men. I would caution anyone against pulling down a fallen soul crying out for help. We’re supposed to be saving lives here…not helping to destroy them. If that sounds like shaming language, tough s~~~!

I am not advocating pulling a fallen soul down. I am advocating reaching out to somebody. I have never known a man who created public drama. Knew one guy who just jumped over the side of the ship one night, never said a word to anyone.

Again, I would like to see the thread in question, and maybe you should as well before making stupid accusations.

I am hardly making stupid accusations, I am merely advising caution. I tried to find that thread and was unable to do so. I am not all that technical and couldn’t remember the name of the thread.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[joetechParticipant]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Again, I would like to see the thread in question, and maybe you should as well before making stupid accusations.

I’m drunk, so what accusation did I make, and what thread in question are you referring to? I’ve been accused of being gay before, mostly by manginas that didn’t buy into my disdain for women. I just happen to agree with the poster. Obviously we don’t get along, you and I, but that’s Ok. It’s only an internet forum. And don’t ever think I buy into feminist trolls and their s~~~. I’ve been eating it since 1959, when I was 5 years old and I became self aware. Maybe I’m too sensitive to things like what happened to Chris Mackney and Ball. But, I have personal experiences from childhood that color my views. If I want to be an asshole about it, it’s because of my passion for what men are put through. Small mind people have no empathy for the pain of others, and I don’t apologize for my animosity.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[MACHOParticipant]

Maraudrz1 wrote:

Let’s just say I think the punting MAY be getting out of hand and want us to be careful. This is one reason I like being a man, we can debate things in a logical manner without insulting someone or getting emotional about it.

I see your point.. Now personally I have been on this site pretty much on a daily basis for over 2 months.. and I must say that the process has remained the same!

KM Indeed gives the OP plenty of chance to defend their position before kicking them out! I found him to be extremely fair. I would not be on here if it wasn’t this way.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

Maraudrz1 wrote:

I am hardly new here. I am just trying to ask our menbers to be cautious. I am merely pointing out possible situations. I have no issue kicking someone off the site if they are a c~~~, an asshole, a troll or anyone who is trying to destroy this site. Let’s just say I think the punting MAY be getting out of hand and want us to be careful. This is one reason I like being a man, we can debate things in a logical manner without insulting someone or getting emotional about it. Thank you for your replies, they are definitely food for thought.

Your heart is definitely in the right place.

I wish we could debate/discuss it, but without seeing the thread, we really cannot.

I will just say in defense of those who do hunt Tuna’s their hearts are also in the right place.
I won’t comment further without seeing the thread.

[Anonymous 54]

joetech wrote:

Look up a thread called Beware. I was mobbed because I was perceived to be false. It all worked out in the end, but I agree that we sometimes are a bit too full of ourselves around here. I’m not suicidal, but have been perceived to be by those who don’t know me from s~~~. Internet forums can be a mystical place, and some people take things too seriously. We men are constantly being trolled by bitches and fools on and off the internet. I would caution anyone from making snap judgements about strangers, but also recommend anyone engaging in a social setting whether on or off the internet be prudent and not expect too much. We’re not all mature here. But, it’s the best site I’ve found for connecting with people I can say “F~~~ Off” to and still be able to function in the group. Try doing that with women around.

You said you wanted to meet me. Get together and ride.

Turns out you dont even ride.

What would you think.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

joetech wrote:

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Again, I would like to see the thread in question, and maybe you should as well before making stupid accusations.

I’m drunk, so what accusation did I make, and what thread in question are you referring to? I’ve been accused of being gay before, mostly by manginas that didn’t buy into my disdain for women. I just happen to agree with the poster. Obviously we don’t get along, you and I, but that’s Ok. It’s only an internet forum. And don’t ever think I buy into feminist trolls and their s~~~. I’ve been eating it since 1959, when I was 5 years old and I became self aware. Maybe I’m too sensitive to things like what happened to Chris Mackney and Ball. But, I have personal experiences from childhood that color my views. If I want to be an asshole about it, it’s because of my passion for what men are put through. Small mind people have no empathy for the pain of others, and I don’t apologize for my animosity.

I am tired as well. maybe I misread your comment. I thought you were saying I was advocating being cruel to men who seek help “fallen souls etc”
Sorry. I probably could have worded it better.

No biggie hopefully. If we had a couple beers over the matter I am confident we would see eye to eye on the issue. I think we all want this to be a place where men in pain find other men to be there for them, and we want to be there for them.

[joetechParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

You said you wanted to meet me. Get together and ride.
Turns out you dont even ride.
What would you think.

I have a sportscar that’s almost as small as a motorcycle. Have you ever seen a Pontiac Solstice? It IS a ride.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Anonymous 54]

joetech wrote:

Old Sage wrote:

You said you wanted to meet me. Get together and ride.
Turns out you dont even ride.
What would you think.

I have a sportscar that’s almost as small as a motorcycle. Have you ever seen a Pontiac Solstice? It IS a ride.

We’ll see witch gets more chicks!! Hajja

JT in the house y’all!!!

[joetechParticipant]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

No biggie hopefully. If we had a couple beers over the matter I am confident we would see eye to eye on the issue. I think we all want this to be a place where men in pain find other men to be there for them, and we want to be there for them.

You’re right. I’m in a p~~~y mood tonight.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

joetech wrote:

Obviously we don’t get along, you and I

I didn’t know that, until now. I am not one of these c~~~s that keeps a list of men I don’t like and won’t speak to here on MGTOW.
I guess I should have know when I offered you some empathy and shared some pain of my own and how I almost killed myself on my ship, us both being Navy guys and all, and you had nothing to say in return.
So much empathy…

So that is fine, but don’t use me for some virtue signaling that you care so much more for men in pain than me. Because it is bulls~~~.

[StormtrooperParticipant 1080]

Anonymous wrote:

joetech wrote:

Old Sage wrote:

You said you wanted to meet me. Get together and ride.
Turns out you dont even ride.
What would you think.

I have a sportscar that’s almost as small as a motorcycle. Have you ever seen a Pontiac Solstice? It IS a ride.

We’ll see witch gets more chicks!! Hajja

JT in the house y’all!!!

Just be careful what type of chicks you pick up, some of these fat ones are the size of a Pontiac.

Having a girlfriend is like owning a gun, the longer your around it, the more you want to shoot it.

[joetechParticipant]

You must have been in Deck division. Hole snipes and Deck rarely get along. Still, I think we’re blowing this way out of proportion. What did you share with me that I should have responded to? We’ve all been through the ringer one way or the other. But, we’re still here. Did I miss something?

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

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