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Most of the time, I wear a straight, expressionless look on my face. I don’t know how to fake a smile. Whenever I smile, either to someone or to myself, it’s always genuine.
A guy once said that I have a scary look. Another one said that I wear a “f~~~ off” look on my face. My father described it as the “look of a sadist” and he said that some people will hate me for it.I don’t speak much and mostly when I do, It’s because it is necessary. I also don’t respond to people when they make a remark or criticism about me. I do this because it’s either worthless/pointless to respond to the person or because I have nothing positive to respond with. My parents and older sibling demand that I apologise or “say something” whenever I’m criticised or called out for making a mistake. But I prefer to keep quiet for either of the reasons stated above.
I also don’t indulge in small talk. I don’t come across people-not even the ones I know-and start telling them what I’ve been up to (things that don’t really concern them) out of the blue. People ask me questions about myself and I tell them the necessary details only—just to be polite.
I don’t poke my nose into people’s lives and I don’t see a reason why people should poke their noses into mine.
I don’t bother other people with my problems. If it is a problem I can’t solve by myself, or improvise on, I will make it known to someone who can be of any assistance as soon as possible.
I prefer to have productive interactions with people and call on them only when I want to do—or discuss on—something worthwhile.
If I know that something is wrong with anyone in my family, I help them whenever they need my help and I do so because I WANT TO. I don’t disturb them by routinely checking on them because I think it’s not necessary. My family says it is bad thing for me to not SHOW or say that I care. Even when I do.
It gets more difficult by the day to pretend that I like being in the mix with clueless blue pilled men and the women who constantly manipulate them.
My indifference towards many elements in this matrix that I am currently stuck in gets more obvious everyday. This has resulted in me interacting with people even less than I used to.
My mother once said to me, “you are in your own world”.I do not greet people the way most people do by further asking how their day/night was or by wishing them happy weekend/new month/holiday e.t.c. I just give a simple two word greeting and move ahead.
Is there anything wrong with me from all I’ve stated above? I am asking because currently, I’m very well bent on improving and developing myself as a person.
There are some things I might not recognize as things I need to work on. For example, the way I talk. I talk fast and many times, people respond with a “huh?” when I first say something to them. A member here also pointed this out when I was having a chat with him on Zoom. This is something I’m currently working on.
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My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.You sound like the perfect work partner or room mate.
You shut up and stay in your business.
Can’t see the problem
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
You looked ok on zoom to me buddy. Having a stand offish demeanour can be an asset for MGTOW. I’m growing a big old Viking beard at the minute, nobody wants to bother me it seems. There were studies done on attitudes to bearded and unbearded men, beardies come across as domineering and possibly aggressive i.e. masculine, so shave your head, grow a big f~~~ off beard, lift weights and glare at people. NFG = personal freedom.
Accept YOURSELF for Who You ARE, and CHANGE the “things” that YOU Want to CHANGE.
It’s YOUR Life, Choose Your Own Path……
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Anonymous12You sound like me Akanbi. Maybe you are also introverted? An introvert gets their power from within, an extrovert sucks it up from everyone around them.
I am often told I am angry when I am not, it used to bother me and I would put on a fake smile and nod along to what people were saying. Now I don’t give a f~~~.
It comes in handy anyway, you can keep undesirables away just by the look on your face.
No. Bad times where you doubt yourself are like rainy clouds… it doesn’t matter how bad the storm is, with time the sun will shine again.
"Fish can’t climb trees and women can’t be trusted." -Buck Fitches
Anonymous0Is there anything wrong with me from all I’ve stated above? I am asking because currently, I’m very well bent on improving and developing myself as a person.
It’s not really a question of whether something is wrong with you or not. Rather, it’s a question of how much you want to interact with the world. If you wish to interact more closely with the world, then you should work on warming up and smoothing out your presentation a bit. On the other hand, if you’re fine with keeping the world at a distance and being a little standoffish around people, then keep doing what you’re doing.
After all, you’re not breaking any laws or anything. It’s just a question of whether you’re motivated (see some good reasons) to do the work to make some changes.
It’s fully within your power to turn up or turn down your interpersonal warmth. It’s just a question of how close or how distant you want to be with people. If your current level of interactions with people is satisfactory for you, then you’re not going to have any strong motivation to change. Nor should you, IMO.
On the other hand, if you determine that you need to socialize/network more in order to get ahead in the workplace, then work on those skills. Or if you start feeling like you could use a little more socializing to keep you grounded and in touch with the people around you, then do the work and practice your small talk skills, and so on.
Either way, it’s not a question of right or wrong. It’s just a question of whether you’re satisfied with the status quo versus having some objective reasons for undertaking the work to make a change.
No, nothing is wrong with you. This planet, indeed CURRENT Western civilization is a lunatic asylum and a dumpster fire.
You sound like another me.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Anonymous0There are some things I might not recognize as things I need to work on.
By the way, if you want a good book describing in detail the elements of good vs. bad self-presentation, order “First Impressions: What You Don’t Know About How Others See You” by Ann Demarais Ph.D. and Valerie White Ph.D. (published 2005).
It might be just the thing you need. You can self-inventory your own self-presentation and perhaps cherry-pick a few items you want to work on. Check out the description of the book and reviews on the book at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/First-Impressions-What-About-Others/dp/0553382012/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1508345153&sr=1-1
Anonymous14Akanbi…..sounds to me like you are in business….minding your own and that gets a big +1 in my book. Ain’t a damn thing wrong with you, just going your own way the best you know how. Pay no mind to the shamers Brother.
Nothing wrong bro. If we ever met, I like to know where I stand. No bulls~~~. The world needs more of you.
Peace is > piece.
It all depends on what kind of inter action you wish to have. If you are engaging and offer a somewhat friendly demeanor, for the most part folks are more inclined to engage back. If you have a harsh looking face and grunt out two word responses when someone tries to speak with you, then they will not want to engage. These are just the basics of human interaction. So, no, there isn’t a thing wrong with you. You just need to understand, for yourself, how much interaction you want with others or with a specific person, and communicate that. If I happened upon you and said hi…how was your weekend…and you grunted back “OK”, and didn’t take up on the conversation any further..then I would know you don’t care to engage with me, and I would leave you alone. Not because I took offense or thought you were a jerk, just because you have signaled me you don’t care to engage and I am respecting that.
How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.
Tell everyone you are a believer in Stoicism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StoicismStoicism teaches the development of self-control and fortitude as a means of overcoming destructive emotions; the philosophy holds that becoming a clear and unbiased thinker allows one to understand the universal reason (logos). A primary aspect of Stoicism involves improving the individual’s ethical and moral well-being: “Virtue consists in a will that is in agreement with Nature.”[7] This principle also applies to the realm of interpersonal relationships; “to be free from anger, envy, and jealousy,”[8] and to accept even slaves as “equals of other men, because all men alike are products of nature
mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/
Stay as you are Akanbi.
One thing I learned is that no matter what you think, say, do etc you will please people and p~~~ people off in equal measure.
Equal numbers will think younscsry as think you a dude.F~~~ those who think it’s their entitlement to criticise without adding value.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius
The normal course of human interactions has everyone leveraging some kind of social game bulls~~~ on everyone else. If you don’t participate in a similar fashion, you are perceived as strange. You’re in the curious position of not giving a s~~~ for the most part but being compelled by others to do so. Which means you’re an exception in comparison to people in general. I’m similar as well, except I have become very good at faking it when necessary. I have no compulsion to be in anyone else’s business nor any compulsion to fake smiles for people I have no concern with.
As @Morlock mentioned, you may lean toward the introverted persuasion and in a western extrovert dominated society that’s not an easy position to be in. If you were born into an extroverted family, the “black sheep” as it were, the suffering is even more magnified. A collective of extroverts banded together don’t lend themselves to understanding the psychological differences between people. They reinforce their own normative values within their group, like people telling you to “apologize” for your behavior when it’s just your natural functioning.
Don’t think there is anything wrong with you, when you may, in fact, be surrounded by assholes who cannot understand you.
Anonymous0Nothing wrong with you. I am the same. I’ve heard the same sentence from my relatives, “you are in your own world”. People who approach me when I walk tend to go to the other side of the road.
And that is their problem, not mine.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with anything you said.
It just sounds like there has been no one in your life that actually makes you feel whatever feeling it is that makes you want to be around them and actually talk to them.
Thats not on you. If there has never been a person like that in your life then so be it.
Not every man is going to have a best buddy they can shoot the s~~~ with all the time. Some men never find a man like that to be best friends with.
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There’s nothing wrong with you. Other people just don’t understand you. In western society, if you don’t flap your mouth to people about absolutely nothing, they feel rejected or put off. It’s stupid, but it’s how most people interact here.
I used to be like you, but I was quiet out of shyness. People looked at me as weird and stand offish. But you sound like you just don’t genuinely care enough to make small talk with people. If that is the case, I say don’t change. Stay who you are, talk to people as you see fit, and everything will fall into place as it should. You won’t have as many friends this way, but the ones you do make will certainly be much better.
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Anonymous54You sound like me Akanbi. Maybe you are also introverted?
You are an introvert. ( like me.)
Formaly know as the Dreaded”loner”.Dont fight it.
No need to explain it
No f~~~ing need to change it.Yeah, you are not alone. I deal or have dealt with the same kind of stuff. I’m better now, and I say better because it’s not always pleasant being that way. If you are OK with it, great. But I found that learning to open up more has made life more worthwhile.
It’s confusing. I personally don’t understand a lot of things, facebook for example.
Values come from the word value. If you are around people that don’t share the same values as you, there’s no reciprocity. You’ll always feel that you loss more than you gained. Try to find out what it is that you value and then work on trying to connect with people that value the same things you value. I’ve found that that helps.
I think the problem is modern society, not the culture necessarily, but things just aren’t like what they used to be. Someone like me, and I can connect with a lot of what you say, I like to think about what is necessary, needed, etc. Being there’s so many people and everything is so automated, it’s hard to find purpose. I think that’s why a lot of men get stuck on women, wanting a relationship, a family, etc. So that they are needed, and even that is now becoming obsolete with child support, welfare systems.
I find trying to focus on helping people that share the same predicament as me has helped. I mostly speak to men, basically, I only speak to men these day. And mostly talk about things going on in life, and strategies to cope with life, understand life, etc.
In today’s world, men need other men. Look at your own suffering and realize that it’s not that uncommon, maybe it isn’t the majority, maybe the majority simply keeps quiet like yourself. I really don’t know. But if you can find out what your suffering is, if you have any, and think of how you could help someone in the same predicament, that might help you to be more social.
Socializing was fundamentally about helping others, which in turn, usually led to life being better all around. In modern times with the populations so high, everyone being disposable, that human need is becoming harder and harder to meet.
I’ll post a video of a guy talking about this. He’s got some good insights and he shares what I think a lot of people in general share in modern times, as he’s going through it and beginning to overcome it.
Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.
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