Iron Sharpens Iron

[X11Spectator 4520]

What does strong even mean in the context of this thread?

The weakest men I know are completely intolerant and are always lashing out, physically fighting people, intimidating and in perpetual conflict with anyone who is not submissive. Guy hates and loathes himself.

So please define strong & weak.

[Anonymous 0]

Ever5 wrote:

If you got feedback on that, love to hear it.

Here’s my feedback:

You just bait people into bickering with you by calling them a pussy and telling them that they’re weak if they won’t argue with you.

Meantime, as an adult, I don’t get sucked into other people’s agendas. Just because YOU want to play this “irons sharpens iron” game doesn’t create any obligations for me or make me a pussy or make me weak. As always, I call my own shots and go my own way without worrying about your f~~~ing opinion on the subject.

You want a discussion on affirmative action? Then start a thread on affirmative action. Kick it off with an article out of the news that illustrates your point, and take a controversial position.

But when you just start a thread about how anyone who won’t debate you is a pussy or a weakling who is causing the fall of civilization? No f~~~s given. I just stopped by to let you know that you sound like a f~~~ing child screaming for attention. Simply arguing for argument’s sake isn’t intellectually honest or particularly admirable.

[AwakenedParticipant 35282]

Anonymous wrote:

But when you just start a thread about how anyone who won’t debate you is a pussy or a weakling who is causing the fall of civilization? No f~~~s given. I just stopped by to let you know that you sound like a f~~~ing child screaming for attention. Simply arguing for argument’s sake isn’t intellectually honest or particularly admirable.

This thread reminded me of the Ole lady trying to bate me into an “argument”, for the sake of “arguing”, without any logical exchange of ideas. Then this turns into basic female shaming language/name calling (IE:Pussy).

I guess I missed my opportunity to “Man-Up”. LOL LOL LOL

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Anonymous 42]

Ever5 wrote:

Your words are as worthless as the one’s that come out of a woman’s mouth.

I’m serious, this apathetic bulls~~~ is going to kill us all. Wake the f~~~ up!

Not nice! Getting emotional ().

Ever5 wrote:

You going to disagree with me, that’s great! But argue your damn point instead of wasting my time.

How does one argue apathy when he doesn’t give a f~~~? You’re asking too much, just like a woman. Why is it YOUR TIME? Sounds narcissistic in a group of men giving THEIR TIME.

Hey Sky-O, pass the f~~~ing bong already and stop bogarting it!

[Ever5Participant 1008]

Well I certainly learned a lot from this discussion.

Yeah name calling, calling someone a pussy, that was a bad move.

After going through the thing yesterday at the gym, I’ve got some rethinking to do, not only in myself but on how I view people.

At the same time, this is what it took me to learn a lot of things in a short amount of time, that I wouldn’t have learned from not doing it.

I think I’m on to something, that there is something valuable in this but I just haven’t perfected it. Or maybe there is no way to feel good about learning. A big part of learning is learning you are wrong about something and finding out your wrong doesn’t feel good anyone.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[Anonymous 14]

Great post Ever, and I agree completely. Let fights happen and see who is left standing. PC has no place in society other than to shut down conversation via shaming.

Your original post was spot on. What came after between everyone else here I don’t even care to sort out.

[Anonymous 14]

Ever5 wrote:

The WEAK will demonize the intellectually strong. So this is the first step, when someone demonizes your idea instead of argues it, then you know they are weak/trash.

The last thread I made the exact thing happened. Instead of addressing what I had put forward someone just came in and said “Whatever”. That was it. That was the extent of their non argument. Weak indeed. What is even weaker is it got up voted a bit. That shows me there were many cowards there afraid of an actual conversation.

Best thing to do is ignore the intellectually weak. They are boring and a waste of time and effort anyhow. If no good point is made just skim past it as it is clearly not worthy of response.

[Ever5Participant 1008]

Yeah, I’ll say this, I’ll work on perfecting my delivery but I’m going to keep doing what I’m doing.

The benefits far outweigh the cost/pain. And when I say benefits, I mean on me as an individual. I benefit from it. I’m not trying to convince people to see my way, referring to when I’m doing this stuff in the real world. On here, yeah I would like to convince people of this because I do think this idea itself, what I am talking about in this thread is extremely valuable. And the more people that participate, the more value that can be mined and everyone comes out ahead.

But trying to convince people that the world isn’t fair nor should it be. It doesn’t matter to me if they want to believe the world should be fair. But me understanding their perspective, and why they think that, is very enlightening. Again, I have to work on my delivery to lower the risk of what it is that I am doing. But there is always risk, there’s no avoiding that.

But having solid ideas, and then comprehending what’s going on, I benefit from that, I feel better about myself. “I” benefit from it.

My post on women not needing men came from it. I had a discussion with a guy, blue pill, and I walked away with a new level of understanding that related to MGTOW/Red Pill, and yeah he kind of got annoyed, saw me as someone who was “anti-women”, it’s like if you say anything negative about women, blue pill men just automatically think, “O your anti-woman”.

But the discussion made a significant impact on my perspective and I’m more accepting of the reality, which then leads to better choices.

The benefits do outweigh the cost. But there is a cost, nothing valuable comes free.

And on that idea of being perceived as Anti Woman, thinking of the past, I’ve had this stuff come up in other areas. It went away when I lost the fear of it. Will that be the case with this, who knows. Again, the benefits from my experience so far, out weigh the cost.

Also for people who are wanting to learn how to do this. I’d recommend learning a little bit about the socratic method. I might write a post on that. it’s a very useful tool, for conversations, discussion, even in business.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[Ever5Participant 1008]

yeah being apathetic is the new “cool.” The one who doesn’t give a f~~~ the most is the coolest. That worked for a while, but now it’s just got out of hand. I think seeing it for what it is, and addressing it is the first step.

I do think I probably went overboard on this thread, with the name calling. But it is the truth, all of what I said is true, it’s still acting like a pussy, it’s a form of weakness that’s now trendy. But instead of attacking it, maybe I should have simply criticized it, explained why it’s detrimental, why it isn’t cool, why it’s a form of weakness.

No idea, I’m learning as I go, and I’m learning a s~~~ load.

But shutting people down, or trying to provoke using name calling. I don’t know though. Coming in and saying ‘no f~~~s given’, what is that? You gotta call it out for what it is. The more I look at it, it’s just stupid.

You don’t give a f~~~, but you gotta tell everyone that you don’t give a f~~~. OK?

And that’s what all this is about. If we don’t test things, if we don’t operate in this manner. We’ll never know the truth. And I’m far from perfect, I certainly look like an idiot at times as well. I learn when people call me out on my own bulls~~~. Everyone benefits.

If you can get past the negative feelings, get over looking like an idiot, get over being wrong. If people can get past all that, everyone benefits.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[X11Spectator 4520]

Arguing on the internet is like the special Olympics.

Even if you win you are still retarded.

[Ever5Participant 1008]

X11 wrote:

Arguing on the internet is like the special Olympics.

Even if you win you are still retarded.

So are you suggesting that we should all just agree with each other? Get along to get along? Not question anything. Just simply accept what everyone says as true or simply not engage at all?

I mean, I’m having a really tough time comprehending what you are saying. Maybe we should just make every thread, disable the comments, and just use the star system? is that a better system?

I’m really having a hard time following you X11. Could you please explain to me why I’m retarded even if I win?

I mean what’s going on over there X11. Do you got a coloring book with some quotes in it, some memes you flip through to copy onto threads. Maybe you got a flow chart, “if this happens, then I say this.” What’s going on dude? enlighten me. I want to know.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[X11Spectator 4520]

Explanation: do what you want. Makes no difference to the quality of a man’s character.

For example, I have sworn off arguing conspiracy theorists, got better things to do with my time.

The only time arguing is worth it IMO is

1. When you feel like it.

2. when f~~~tards try and push their views on other people in a way that will effect someone else’s life eg religious zealots.

Otherwise NFG.

[Ever5Participant 1008]

OK so, you agree that arguing is worth it, when you find that it’s worth it, when it benefits you.

so you don’t actually believe that it’s retarded?

So NFG is simply when there is no benefit to you? If that is the case, I can understand that. However, why engage at all when that is the case?

If something isn’t a benefit to you, does that mean it isn’t or can’t be a benefit to another?

Why bother to let people know that it doesn’t interest you and you can’t benefit from it? How does that benefit you?

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[X11Spectator 4520]

You asked a question I answered. Was just being polite.

[X11Spectator 4520]

As to your original question.

Iron does not sharpen iron, steel sharpens iron. The steel becomes blunt by sharpening the iron.

No offence but I’m the steel you are the blunt iron. I can not become sharper by arguing with you.

[Anonymous 42]

You’re both wrong! Stone sharpens iron!

Lets argue weather or not toilet paper should go under or over the spool!

[Ever5Participant 1008]

X11 wrote:

No offence but I’m the steel you are the blunt iron. I can not become sharper by arguing with you.

Then why are you engaging in this conversation? Still this makes no sense to me.

How does being polite benefit you or benefit me?

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

[Anonymous 42]

I say OVER the spool!

[X11Spectator 4520]

Ever5 wrote:

Then why are you engaging in this conversation? Still this makes no sense to me.

Cos you are asking me direct questions and I am trying not to be a rude ass.

You want I should ignore you?

You can benefit because I am better at this s~~~ and can give you a good schooling. There is no benefit to me.

No need to thank me.

[Ever5Participant 1008]

Wouldn’t ignoring me be a better option for you?

And how are you certain that I am benefiting from your contribution? Or that I can benefit from it?

If anything, what I’m learning is that not engaging people, ignoring people, might actually be the opposite of rude, be a help to them. Again, we have to get past the negative feelings, not that I would find that rude, to get anything of value in discussion. If you ignore me, then I am no longer wasting my time responding to you and can focus on finding people that are mutually interested.

Otherwise we just playing hamster wheel. Repeating nonsense from yesterday that is probably invalid or obsolete today.

Truth has no place to live in the mind of a woman.

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