Iowa man sentenced to 16 years for setting LGBTQ flag on fire

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  • #919442
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/iowa-man-sentenced-to-16-years-for-setting-lgbtq-flag-on-fire/ar-BBY9Rfh?ocid=spartanntp

    Personally, I have NO problem with the LGBTQ community, and yes this man should be punished for destroying someone else’s property, but would a Socialist/Liberal/Antifa member receive anywhere near close to the same punishment for setting someone else’s American flag on firer?

    We exist in one very sick Matrix….

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    from the article:

    Adolfo Martinez, 30, of Ames, was found guilty last month of third-degree arson in violation of individual rights — hate crime, third-degree harassment, and reckless use of fire as a habitual offender.

    He was arrested after stealing a pride banner hanging at Ames United Church of Christ, 217 6th St., and burning it early June 11 outside Dangerous Curves Gentleman’s Club, 111 5th St., police said.

    So I agree that 16 years is preposterous for this crime, even though its really obvious this guy is a total scumbag. I think a few years in prison would have been enough, and that is only because he is an repeat arsonist.

    #919471
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    I agree, the dude is a whacko and should serve some time, not 16 years, but some time because he did steal private property. However, why can so many hate filled pieces of schit legally burn the U.S. flag because it’s called freedom of speech, but when this dude burns a phag flag it’s called a hate crime?

    Fukk this schit. Burning the flag of the United States in protest is one of the biggest hate crimes there is. The only legal reason to burn the flag should be when it is during a ceremony for proper disposal of a flag that is no longer in fit condition to be flown.

    I’m so sick of the left wing idiots and their fukked up agendas for money and power. They are the most hateful people alive.

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

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    Yeah Hermit has it right here. You don’t go stealing stuff and burning it. That needs some punishment. However had he bought it himself and burned it I would treat it as nothing but someone being nasty. I personally would not send him to jail until every burner of the national flag was in jail for at least tice as long. The individual has no rights in the world today without his country. Burn your country’s flag and you deserve to be made stateless.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    #919534
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    I will hang a Gadsden Flag on my compound in the desert. First one to burn it without immediate repercussions can go to free. Begin.

    I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

    #919541
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    a pride banner hanging at Ames United Church of Christ,

    That’s the basic problem right there.

    Everything else is just consequences.

    #919546
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    Burning the flag of the United States in protest is one of the biggest hate crimes there is.

    Somehow, this “hate crime” is constitutionally protected as Freedom of Speech.

    I really find it hard to believe that the framers of the constitution would have viewed it this way.

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

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    It brings forth many interesting questions. I’m a heterosexual. Do I have ‘heterosexual pride’? Am I ‘proud’ simply because I am attracted to women? What ‘accomplishment’ is such an innate attraction, to be ‘proud’ of in the first place? It makes no more sense to speak of ‘black pride’, ‘gay pride’, etc, than it does for me to speak of ‘heterosexual pride’. Do asexuals with low libido have ‘asexual pride’? Does being born white cause me to have ‘white pride’? No. Accomplishing REAL GOALS in the REAL WORLD is what causes you to have pride!

    Now maybe they mean ‘self confidence’ when they say pride. Has ‘black pride’ improved the lives of blacks in the ghetto? No. It won’t. Discipline and hard work, not ‘pride’ will improve their lives. Attending marches and rallies will not develop real skills. Though it may get you a community organizer job in a leftist organization. Blaming the police for shooting blacks, will not get you off welfare and get you a job. Only YOU can do that.

    Has ‘white pride’ improved the lives of white neo-Nazis? No. It won’t. Discipline and hard work, not pride, will improve their lives. Attending rallies and marches where they beat up and denounce black and brown-skinned people isn’t achieving a GOAL. Though you may be able to where some white robes and a funny hat and burn crosses. How is that something to be ‘proud’ of? Blaming all your problems on blacks and browns because you’re too f*cking lazy to get a job and do work, is not the answer.

    I could care less if churches condoning and marrying gays exist; churches are always schisming based on differences in beliefs. And so we have many denominations. Not my concern, so long as the State is separate from the Churches.

    Which brings forth another question. What, exactly, is a ‘hate crime’? If I murder you because I wanted to steal your car or wallet, is that a ‘love crime’? Are you any less dead, whether I murder you for your wallet, or because you are gay or black? My problem with ‘hate crimes’ are that they violate equal treatment under the law. 16 years is longer than most MURDERERS serve. Charge the jackass for the cost of the flag and treat it like any other property theft…

    I believe you should be able to burn any godd*mn flags you want, gay, Nazi, American, etc if YOU own it. This is called your the right to free expression. Whether a government tolerates UNPOPULAR and CRITICAL speech is the true test of whether you have FREE speech and a FREE country. Every time someone burns a US flag it’s another testament to what a relatively free we live in where you can burn that flag. Civil freedoms/freedom of expression at least. Economic freedom in America, not so much.

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    It’s all propaganda. Have to put the story out to make conservatives think, “Oh, yes yes, the man needs SOME jail”.

    No he doesn’t. The LBGT agenda is clear. It’s just leftism – more of the revolution.

    The man is a hero.

    #919554
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    WOW Iowa is crazy! Canadians burned down the Whitehouse in 1804 with less reaction.
    Are they crazy premeditated murder in Canada is 25 years…translates to 14 years time served…..16 years for a friggin’ flag???.
    Unless it was in a school full of children….that is just plain irrational.

    L. Euler

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    I think a few years in prison would have been enough

    u want to put a man in jail for the minor act of burning some flag?
    gravel pit is an anti american communist imposter he is not a mgtow
    his other posts attacking free speech of members here prove this

    Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready

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    He probably won’t serve but a small fraction of it. The guy is mentally deranged — watch his strange gestures in an interview. He probably does need institutionalized, but not in a PRISON.

    After this incident, I wonder if Westboro Baptist Church will now have to print one of their large banners ‘God Hates Gay FLAGS’ instead of their usual ‘God Hates F~~s’? Personally, I like the counter-protest signs ‘God Hates Figs’. Maybe I’ll print one. ‘God Hates you all, but his Priests love your 10%’

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    Started a new topic

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    #919572
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    gravel pit is an anti american communist imposter he is not a mgtow

    Im a former 0311 Infantry Marine, born in Dallas Texas (100% german irish). Enlisted at 18 and served 3 years including a combat deployment to Fallujah Iraq

    I have never voted Blue in my life, not once!

    I was a member on this site in the first few months it opened. I have had 2 other profiles which Ive disclosed, which were used back in 2014-2015

    I have shown my photograph to men hear and spoken with them on the phone. And after 2 years of near daily posting, dozens of men here know that Iam a completely normal, poor, 33 year old, white male PATRIOT who pays his taxes, owns a small business and votes for the least s!ttiest candidate in November every 4 years. I also vote in other elections because I love my country.

    I was raised a Catholic and a boy scout. The reason youre attacking me is because I called you out, for your tinfoil hat jewspiracy non-sense. I may not be as smart as FRANK who just solidly put you in your place (yes I can read) … I may not be as well spoken and knoledgeable as Frank but I have clean instincts. I know that the Jewspiracy crap is bollocks. SOME conspiracies are true, some are completely batty… you seem to be incapable of discerning which is which

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    Christopher wrote:

    gravel pit is an anti american communist imposter he is not a mgtow

    Im a former 0311 Infantry Marine, born in Dallas Texas (100% german irish). Enlisted at 18 and served 3 years including a combat deployment to Fallujah Iraq

    No marine would attack members and suddenly try to shut down free speech like a feminist SJW the way you did on the other threads and very suspect behaviour as you advocated communism. Frank is incorrect imho – but he was polite and gave his opinion so I fully respect that – our opinions differed that is completely fine. Unlike the outrageous attacks on myself and 2 other members that you suddenly started as it didnt fit your narrative. I have always been polite to everyone here.

    More importantly Happy Christmas to all here.

    Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready

    #919591
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    I have always been polite to everyone here.

    youre alot more polite than Humongus.

    be well. For the record, I was wrong to say that youre not allowed to have free speech that thread. Im eating the words right now. I regret being that hotheaded.

    whatever man… Im putting it in the rearview. Im personally not a jew, so I dont really care anymore.

    #919593
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    youre alot more polite than Humongus.

    You mean Tuna who is now notably absent?

    LMAO

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    I am attracted to women? What ‘accomplishment’ is such an innate attraction, to be ‘proud’ of in the first place?

    For one thing? You have to admire masochists. 🙂

    Does being born white cause me to have ‘white pride’

    Well you have to admit, Keeping your skin clean and free of blemishes and wrinkles is a real accomplishment. Skin care for white people is a LOT of work. And should be rewarded! I mean we can’t just photo shop everything! 🙂

    Has ‘white pride’ improved the lives of white neo-Nazis? No. It won’t. Discipline and hard work, not pride, will improve their lives. Attending rallies and marches where they beat up and denounce black and brown-skinned people isn’t achieving a GOAL

    I’m not kidding here. They really don’t do this! Only a Real racist like ME Knows.. (Someone is laughing their ass of in hell) Its more like making sure to keep your Pussy knowing you are Alpha as f~~~. Keeping up the Bad boy image. And keeping the donations and fear about them up. In fact? If I did not know for a FACT that it has been FUNDED by the ADL? HOLY S~~~ MANG! In fact, Neo Nazi are really quite peaceful. They just seem to be sort of anti social. They grow out of it as time goes by. The problem is once you start to learn more about race, you can’t help but feel sorry for people and their predicament. Then you simply realize that you are being used as a tool to keep the people in power that you are trying to fight against from oppression of you and your way of life.
    The worst hurt you can do to people who you hate is encourage their hate. And make then victims of their own plan. Not that I would know anything about that… 🙂

    Which brings forth another question. What, exactly, is a ‘hate crime’? If I murder you because I wanted to steal your car or wallet, is that a ‘love crime’?

    Well Frank.. Yes! Cuz if you love crime? & Crime is indeed empowering… Well… Just look at the Democratic party! Need I say more? 🙂

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    #919620
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    I think a few years in prison would have been enough

    u want to put a man in jail for the minor act of burning some flag?gravel pit is an anti american communist imposter he is not a mgtowhis other posts attacking free speech of members here prove this

    You know how we make fun of DaddyDom420? Same thing.

    But saying that DaddyDom420 is not MGTOW is sort of like saying that Henry Ford was just wrote those books about the Jewish question just to hide from the fact that he had a Jewish Ancestor someplace.

    Gravel PIT is NOT an easy person to get along with. Call it part of the Jar Head mentality that’s hard to let go. Trolling or telling someone to shut up of being a menace is not the same thing PER SAY!.

    WAS IT DOCHEY? Kind of. But who’s playing in who’s hands right now? I mean I have to admit… Right now at this very second I have a very real choice to make about the freedom of speech & liberty of others, and MGTOW. That’s not a joke. Its real. Do I go forth with it? Or do I do what is best for the whole and my ideals? Rough choice there.

    Gravel pit in MY OPINION, was doing what he thought was best. Blame the German in him. He can’t help it. And you have to admit, if you are a good looking white guy with great Genes (have you seen his GLUTES!) your going to feel a BIT guilty.

    Guilt can cause you to do some crazy things. But the allegations made? That’s like saying Nick Fuentes is not in it for the fame. We all are in someway.

    And even though I can say out loud some really uncomfortable truths or ideas, its still not everyone cup of tea. That was what ZOOM here was for IMO. And I think that’s why I never got on the stream. I’m Not apart of the Master race so to speak.

    Does that make me a Bit buthurt? Sort of! Yea.. ITS DOES! BUT… Don’t you think it would be kind of weird to talk about that how smelly India is or how Chinese people are like insects?

    Lets me real here. What if we start saying all of a sudden Branched off is really well spoken for a Black guy. I mean WE are IMPRESSED that a Black guy is so woke! Why do you think Gravel Pit is so quick to dencouxe Hammerhead? Think about that.

    If you are a person who cares about others, you want to do good. Its something that is left in you after service to your country. You tend to want to stand up when you PERCEIVE something off. Its just A Knee Jerk Reaction.

    If I started to compliment how Gay …Lets see.. Who is REALLY straight here.. OH! If I started to tell you Swimcat is such WOKE and so cool for being a gay dude that he really should be a model for straight people, do you see where that would make people who are gay possibly feel uncomfortable.

    Me, Gravel Pit and so many others see this as a Home. Or a house. I see this as My family. That’s not a joke. Not a Pun. I really do think that my brothers here are my family. I don’t see why I would not. So in a family, you do what you can to keep it together.

    I did a VIdeo on this a while back where we all argue with the Star Wars Motifs. Like it or not, we are all here. Some of us if we did meet each other, may not like working together or even hanging out. Hell, there is only so much we can stand of each other. Call it the Maverick Mentality.

    Bottom line? Jewish members like THX1138 are still Jewish. They still talk about the bad parts about People who are Jewish. But its where it crosses the line for I think many people is to Blanket label Men. That’s going to cause some kind of distrust. And really, it hurts your feelings if we are going to be honest about it.

    What if NAGS4CASH came on here, and he started talking about Koolaid? Or Watermelon? Or CHicken? Sure it would be funny. But if we started saying “Yea typical NIGS” That’s got to hurt after a while. I mean it just not cool.

    I mean lets be honest here. We are still all human no matter how much knowledge we have. Its hard to see people as an individual. Not as a race, or picture or as an Idea. Some people like it or not can’t and are not willing to accept individualism.

    The person who I think has this in spades is the dude that says he has no feelings. I forgot his name, but his icon is that from that one TV movie series where aliens come to earth. We assume he is white. Just like we assumed other people are. Problems happen when we know what race you are. When that drops, people treat you differently. Stigma for being Jewish is the same thing. Same with any race really.

    I mean have you guys noticed no one makes fun of Indian people here? Kind of funny? (even though I’m a BIT different) but same concept. You get that “air” of bad taste.

    And as you know, there are people who simply will stop talking to you IF you are Jewish. We have all seen this. Hell, there is this woman that tried to say hello to me that I knew before I really understood things, and avoided her like the plague she is! I did not KNOW about what I do now.

    Or even how I see Jewish People now. I mean it does f~~~ with your mind a bit. But is it really they are ALL BAD? Or are there just a TON of Bad examples of them that reinforce or prejudice?

    In America at least, you are Guilty until Proven innocent. This woman proved she was guilty to me. So did my Probation officer, and so did others. Has it poisoned my mind? Yea, I think so. At least a little bit. And I think that’s what Gravel pit knows about more then others.

    Gravel Pit is an AA Member. He has seen just about every kind of person out there. And I think he has a good deal of experience with people as well. So if he calls some bulls~~~, its going to happen. Being that his family IS GERMAN, it does put a weight on you. Guilt that really should not be there. But you still feel it. After WWII, people really were not into german anything for a while. Hence why we are in the S~~~bucked thing in Europe as of now.

    So, when you have a family, you have to keep it together at all costs. For some of us? Its all we really have Chris.

    And really, if I have to be honest, its one of the best things about white people IMO. They bother to care. Not many other races have that. And if I say that? Does that mean that Black people are lacking? Maybe in the Numbers department? What about Asians? Even with a Massive advantage they have that makes most of them immune to bigotry, it still hurts a bit to know that some people eat dogs or cats, or even have little care for others as we seen in China.

    My point is, not everyone here is built like Granite. You have to keep polishing it or it will dull.

    I think that’s what Gravel Pit does best. He poliches all the turds we all are. Cus at the end of the day? Who is really immaculate? Secret AgentMGTOW would say GOd. Or the Brick layer dude. But really, when it comes to people? We ALL have our faults, frailty and shortcomings.

    And Chris, honest observation. Have you ever considered that you are Superior to others? If that is true, then you realize that other will never be able to cope with that realization. I mean that has to have dawned on you at some point?
    If you understand that that is a Possibility? Don’t you think other people may see you as a threatening? Maybe we can’t measure up to you? And that would preclude us from being on the same team so to speak.
    Kind of like favoring one child to another. Its true, but should you allow that to be known?

    I mean you have to had thought of that Possibility? Its similar to how Maddoxx on a mission published his book that he could draw better then kids. It seems funny? UNTIL YOU REALIZE HE WAS REALLY SERIOUS! ( That’s the REAL FUNNY PART!) But none the less, SHOULD YOU?

    So like it or not, as a person who is quite possibly a superior human being, you have to take into account that is going to be in bad taste for some people.

    I don’t know if you have noticed or not.. But.. I’m Kind of like a white pride dude? But you don’t hear me talking about it! I could point out facts all day long on WHY my reasons for why I do this are. But Don’t you think some people will get the wrong Idea?

    FOr example. If I say Sidecar is the BEST white person I have ever met? And is the PINNACLE of White people? Don’t you think other people who are Mixed race would kind of feel bad? Not take it the other way that COOL! I”M IN THAT CLUB TOO!

    Again, you can see this. But can others?

    Its seems normal to you Chris only since you think on a higher level then others. You are more aware. Not all of us have that awareness.

    In fact for me? I have to be honest that I great Faust and Branched off mixed up alot. Even Side car and Gravel pit seem to be the same person in my head. They are so similar (in my head)

    I hate it that I can not compete with some people. And the truth is , unlike animating objects, we can’t just prune away the undesirable people outright. We can do that in our Private lives, but its harder to do as we all play in this symphony of life.

    The thought has to have crossed your mind that it would be better to have the whole world as one race. And only have the best one. It sure seems like a good idea until you realize that it may not be you on the top. And that sucks. But its little comfort to those outside of that master race.

    So you just have to make do the best you can. Afterall. It must hurt a bit that if I told people that I was the person who was head of a large organization that pushes The SUpreme Arayan dogma, that might not be sort of lead people to think that they were being fooled or played. would it not? (not saying I am) But really Chris? People would go CRAZY if they found out that I am the leader of the biggest Aryan Neo Nazi group in the land. ME.. Just saying.. Again. Not that I am.

    So if I tell you to keep your mouth shut? It might be for a good reason chris. I mean, we have work to do. Can’t let the Plebs know what we are REALLY UP TO! They won’t accept it.

    But we must still try to work around them. And work with them. It is our only hope for the Master race to come to power.
    So let the Gentiles be as they may. Let them spout that we are all equal. Let them defend the weak.

    WE can do this without them Chris. But I can’t do it alone. I need you to keep the peace until we infiltrate all nations with OUR SUPERIORITY! Well. Yours actually. I’m just not apart of that club.

    So we have to work together until you can take your rightful place. As a GOD among men.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

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