Introduction of freedom

[MikeMcParticipant 14]

Hi everyone I’m Mike.

 

First off I wanted to say thank you for having this site, it’s nice to find I’m not alone in how I feel. By now my story will sound more familiar then it should but here goes anyway. I found the whole MGTOW movement thanks in large part to feminism, I was watching one of thunderfoots videos on Anita Sarkeesian and came across a sandman video, after listening and constantly saying to my self no s~~~ he speaks the truth, I was pretty much hooked and listened to something like 30 videos the next day, followed by even more the next day.

I knew all along women where evil and manipulative. Despite that I bought into the whole white knight mentality that men have a duty to protect and treasure women. Well 12 years with one sure opened my eyes. Even after getting kicked to the curb I still tried to rationalize it by thinking I didn’t do the right things to please my woman. I spent months reflecting on what I did wrong to destroy my marriage but every time I thought I found something I discovered the cause was the way my wife changed between when she was trying to attracted me and how she acted once I was married and trapped with a child. Gone where the days I would come home from work to find a plate with dinner ready and her saying “oh here baby you sit and relax” replaced with a stack of dishes in the sink and her sitting at the computer in her pjs saying “oh I didn’t feel well today, you cook dinner.” needless to say there where a number of discussions that basically end with “If I’m going to bust my ass working all day the least you could do is get off your ass and f~~~ing do something around the house.” That of course was the beginning of the end that lead to my eventual freedom.

Now that I’ve been reading and listening to different men talking about MGTOW I’ve chosen my own way. I figure I will start out at level 2/3 and use my spare time to educate myself and prepare more until I can get to a stage where I can ghost.

 

Thanks and have a safe journey.

Mike

 

[RayBandakuParticipant 888]

Welcome Mike, I have been a MGTOW for five year.  I have been married for 12 years to crazy ex wife.  You will fit right in.  We are here, if you need us.  Your freedom is more important then having women you can not trust.  Stay positive, live your dream life without women coming the way.

[MikeMcParticipant 14]

Thanks Ray,I highly doubt I will ever meet any woman I could trust enough to get into a serious relationship with. That glass has been long since shattered. I have already chosen I will not get married again, the only woman that I will live with is my husky. Although I do plan to date in small quantities for sex and at the very least to strengthen my resolve. I also plan to read more and look for specifics on female behavior as to protect myself while I learn and figure out the true path I want to take. It is just nice to know that I’m not crazy for thinking the whole dating system is rigged. Actually the image that came to my mind was of those deep sea fish with a built in bait.

[RoyDalParticipant]

… the only woman that I will live with is my husky.

Wise choice! (Mine’s a Doberman.)

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Mike,

I was about 25 and visited my folks for dinner on weekends. My Dad was like a reserved and quiet version of Archie Bunker. With the same short temperament minus the abusive personality, he was the dutiful slave father who worked one job for decades (since years before I was born) right up until retirement while supporting us all. He often had a serious and irritated look on his face, but if he scowled and got grumpy, it was usually funny. He rarely complained, except this time he MEANT it.

Mom brought dinner to the table and Dad cut into it. He took a bite, chewed for a bit, quietly “slammed” his fork and knife on the table and said: “This is COLD!!!” – and just looked at my Mom. She decided to be a bitch and told him to “go heat it up”.

“What did I marry you for again?” he asked.
He waited for an answer. There was none.

Once his ass hit the chair, he didn’t get up. And I knew the act of quietly picking up the plate and taking it to the microwave was a TRUE test of his patience.

At the time, I thought this was a hurtful thing to say, but I understand him better now than I ever did when he was alive. For decades a slave, he once considered quitting to find something better…. but Mom convinced him to stick with it – and he did – until he got his gold watch and a pension. She liked the “security” and “stability” he provided, but when HE expected the same in the form of a f~~~ing hot meal when he got home, she treated him like he was being unreasonable.

She said “oh I didn’t feel well today, you cook dinner.” needless to say there where a number of discussions that basically end with “If I’m going to bust my ass working all day the least you could do is get off your ass and f~~~ing do something around the house.” That of course was the beginning of the end that lead to my eventual freedom.

Very nicely done. YOU insisted on getting your freedom, but my Dad would retreat to the garage (or workshop) for hours in the evening to take a swig from a hidden bottle, and slowly committed suicide over a few decades because he was much too polite when he shouldn’t have been.

Directly from me to you personally – and in the name of my Dad – I CONGRATULATE you for not putting up with that s~~~, and welcome you to MGTOW.

Millions of men before us died for for our freedoms, and it’s time men started enjoying some of it.

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The last time I visited Mom, we were having dinner and she talked about how hard Dad worked to give her the lifestyle she lives comfortably in now. Again, she mentioned the time he wanted to quit and how she persuaded him to continue. Then she said “If he hadn’t done that, I don’t know where I would be.”. All I could think was “Where YOU would be? Where YOU would be??? Damn right, lady. And don’t you ever forget it”.

I so badly wanted to remind her of the time she told him to heat up his own f~~~ing meal – and how unfair it was. But I bit my tongue, just as he did. It would have made her feel like s~~~. Too late to do anything about it now. Or is it?

MGTOW.

Any woman who expects a man to do ANYTHING for her while being too lazy to drop a bunch of noodles in a pot of boiling water for him …. must be told to HIT THE F~~~ING ROAD – and make sure she knows WHY.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Zoby TwoParticipant 83]

Keymaster : It is a touching story that teaches us how to keep trying when things get tough.

Thanks for sharing , fellow.

mikeMC : welcome bro’. I’m living the same situation : married 2 children and my wife is really lazy.

[jambearParticipant 282]

Welcome Mike,

As I read your I could help but smile think abut what feminism is doing for the modern female. I have no hard data on this obviously I have a feeling that most men go what you and KeyMaster’s father when through, a woman not holding up her end of the social contract that is marriage. When men of the past had no outlet to express their frustrations, besides drinking themselves into the grave. Or were to afraid to leave their lazy wives because of what society and his brainwashing was telling him to do. But that time is coming to an end. The genie is out of the bottle and the true face of woman has emerged and it is one of slothfulness and greed. Gone are the false pretenses of the past, the social fairy tales. Men have begun to finally wake up and see the chains, but more importantly begun to resist and reject them. We MGTOW are small in number but we have already begun to make huge waves.

[MikeMcParticipant 14]

RoyDol:  nice, doobermans are great dogs, I’ve dog sat one many times.

KeyMaster: Thank you. I’ve always been an a none conformist. I used to think I was a nice guy with a rebellious streak, now I see it as I’m just a good guy. It’s not that I’m out to hurt anyone, it’s just a matter of what I chose to do instead of what someone else tries to convince me of doing. The problem with being a “nice guy” is that it leaves a huge hook for someone to add shaming on. Even from other men, for example telling someone a real man does blah is a form of shaming the response should be a real man does what ever the f~~~ he wants to do.

It sounds like your mom was a awalt in some ways that should make it easier to swallow, mine was a true nawalt she adores my father and for most of my childhood she was the provider. They have always had a great give and take relationship where both parties get what they want and need. Which might explain why they have been married for almost 50 years with only minor fights. She is still a women and there are times I can see her wheels turning. In fact she tried to break me and my ex up. She hates my ex always has, she calls her a lazy bitch. of course I always remind her that’s an insult to the dogs but not my ex. So for me it was a little harder to swallow or I would have figured it out myself but I have seen what a near perfect relationship is, so to me it’s not a mythical thing.

jambear : yes I know the feeling, I smile thinking keep pushing just keep pushing lol almost makes me think they’re giving birth to a whole new concept called true equality. I think my true red pill moment was really watching that red headed pull horn telling a guy to shut the f~~~ up about men’s rights. At that point I began to see feminism as not in the best interest of men in general. So it really planted the seed Anita just added the fertilizer and all that was left was some clean water from thunderfoot and it was forced to grow.

#Phil#: I understand I have 1 biological child and two step children and 3 grand kids. Even though I know I played captain save a hoe, I don’t blame the kids for it. I blame myself and my ex for it. In fact when I get to see my step son, I plan to give him a little red pill as well. I feel responsible for his blue pill, I just hope I can get through to him and set him free.

 

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

Welcome Mike.

I can tell off the bat that you are a good dude who like the rest of us got snagged into the bullshiet of being the nice guy in the relationship of satisfying a woman’s whims and petty fickleness.

I hope you find your strength in the fact that you are not alone. You are among brothers.

 

 

[MikeMcParticipant 14]

Thanks Ninja,

Although I was trapped, I trapped myself. I had a serious hook in being a nice guy and coming to save a poor woman. So I only noticed the things I wanted to see. The whole reason I got together with her in the first place was because her boyfriend had left her and ran off with her friend. She and her 2 kids where going to have a bad Christmas. So I grabbed some cash and headed over. Only to get her pregnant 2 weeks before she had a tubal. I got my white knight fantasy but totally missed the dragon and her nesting skills.

Don’t get me wrong, I love my step kids. I’ve been their dad and in their lives for more then their biological fathers ever where. I opened their eyes to a world of things more then mom ever could have by herself. Both of them have also made me a proud grandfather with 3 grand sons.

I do plan to focus on my step son and grand sons and try to let them see the real dynamics sooner. I believe I have a chance with my step son, he only lasted 4 years before he said she’s crazy and moved out. The problem is he turned around and grabbed the next cute girl just to show everyone he’s done with her and could find someone even better. It’s a messy situation and I’m going to have to tread lightly. I plan to plant seeds of interest in him and let him approach me asking how I knew something. If I can get him to see something his natural curiosity will lead him right here.

My step daughter I’m not sure how to even handle, she’s 20 years old has a 2 year old son and is already trying to challenge her mother as queen bee. At 20 she has no hope but that won’t stop her from trying. I took advantage of this when I first separated by moving in with my step daughter for the first 10 months of my separation. The deal was I would baby sit while she finished her school. We would split the cost of living expenses and house hold duties. I noticed the whole time everything was about getting me to provide more and her to provide and do less. That was the main issue with her mom so I didn’t play into it and after our agreement for 10 months we’ve gone our separate ways. I will play a part in my grandsons life as I have for the first 2 years of it, but my step daughter is going to be looking for resources to tap into as well. My price for those resources is going to be more then she is willing to pay.

I’m thankful I have only 2 months left and I can get my divorce papers. I have my ex wife trapped in her own game to make sure I get away with a fresh start. Her desire to show that she’s a strong woman is tied close with her having to show I am of no value. She doesn’t want any support from me at all, she did the same thing with her ex husband. Hinting that she doesn’t need his money and he is worthless. So she was happy I agreed to the same deal he made. She is already busy using her harem to show everyone she has way more value then I do. The thing she doesn’t even see is that once I get those papers I’m free to return to focusing on myself and my kids. I can create my own value where she can only leech hers off others. I was pretty smart not to show any value in that year, my savings where already used up so to her I am washed up and can be thrown away with out a second thought.  If I showed any value I knew she would either attack it or try to get me to come back. Except I am the one who made that value and I can do it again. She thinks I’m trapped because I can only create value for a woman. I used to tell her that she was my inspiration for working. So without a woman I am of no value. I may have used the inspiration of a woman but I still created enough value to take care of a family of 5. Once she signs those papers she is about to find out something completely different.

 

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

Hi Mike. How to handle the daughters is tough. On one had, you don’t want her to be a whore or gold digger, but on the other hand you don’t want her to be with a bum. For the daughters responsibility is must. Have sex and date whoever you want, but you will pay for your own mistakes. She can’t go out on a saturday night with fake ids to clubs dressed like a hooker, blow some John and wake up the next morning pregnant and regretting it. Sons will pay for their own mistakes, they will also pay for a bitches mistakes, but no daughter of mine will be working a victim status.

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