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Hi guys.
I’ve been reading this forum since it began and would like to introduce myself.I was always high-achievement, independent, and did things my “own way”. Moreover, I was always active in the conversation of what it means to be a man in today’s society. But there was one fly in the stew: religion. I was raised a devout fundamentalist Christian, which taught me responsibility, work ethic, and appreciation for philosophical concepts, but was also a drag on my freedom to choose as a man, instilling some distorting pressures with basic things like sexuality, money, and more worldly aptitudes to choose my own life for myself as an adult man. Basically it was parental control extended into adulthood.
I dutifully married one of the star jewels of our Christian college, a beautiful and exotic girl, a solid 9, who was so perfect she actually won scholarships for being an ideal Christian girl. We became friends and married as virgins.
Fast-forward ten years and she begins acting funny. She had always been high anxiety, but some new toxins seemed like they were in the stew. I did an internet search on the specifics as I sought to gain perspective. Every article I found talked about going to counseling, listening and opening up communication, things we were already doing. But I only found one website describing my precise situation…on a forum with the curious abbreviation “M.G.T.O.W.” Another guy was trying to make sense of his wife’s outlandish behavior. The MGTOWs told him to brace himself for what was about to happen, as she would transform into the devil herself and try to kill him and take his money. It was an outlandish and extreme claim. Moreover, they said, he would never believe it could come from her or happen to him until after it happens (if even then). The original poster’s description was precisely how my wife was behaving, but I too nodded my head and thought, “My wife? Never.”
Guess who was right?
What followed was a long and flavorful story of betrayal, divorce theft, cheating, stalking, losing my family and friends. A few months later we hit a major life savings goal. My wife openly told me she wanted me dead and wanted all the money. My entire (supposedly religious) family defended or dismissed her every psychotic move. They made sure that her victim card was gold plated and outside the realm of rational thought. Mind you, these were the same people who pressured us into marriage to begin with & threatened me with hell if I ever had sex as a teenager. It turned out I was the only one in the end serious about my marriage vows, and the only person left defending the sanctity of marriage. Even though it was a lifelong con job. I had no say in the divorce. I kept the house but lost everything else, the most valuable of which was my health I had sacrificed while over-working to accumulate savings so we would be o.k.
Our story ends much like many of yours. But as religious people, our ethics weren’t just implied — they were explicit. I saw how even a “perfect” girl can turn bad once she drinks the consumer kool-aid.
While my divorce introduced me to MGTOW, my identity as a man is more than my marriage and divorce. I cultivated a period of monk-like bliss, where I truly had ownership of my life, my schedule, my space, mind, and my time. I loved it. Interest in women has declined since then (although I interrupted it for a LTR with a borderline girlfriend who makes many of your stories sound tame…more about her later). For instance, soon after my divorce I found myself in a yoga class surrounded by college-aged American girls in various states of undress. I remember forcing myself to look around and try to appreciate the scenery. My response? “Nah, I’d rather be home playing music.”
"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.
What followed was a long and flavorful story of betrayal, divorce theft, cheating, stalking, losing my family and friends. A few months later we hit a major life savings goal. My wife openly told me she wanted me dead and wanted all the money. My entire (supposedly religious) family defended or dismissed her every psychotic move. They made sure that her victim card was gold plated and outside the realm of rational thought. Mind you, these were the same people who pressured us into marriage to begin with & threatened me with hell if I ever had sex as a teenager. It turned out I was the only one in the end serious about my marriage vows, and the only person left defending the sanctity of marriage. Even though it was a lifelong con job. I had no say in the divorce. I kept the house but lost everything else, the most valuable of which was my health I had sacrificed while over-working to accumulate savings so we would be o.k.
It’s heartbreakingly familiar on this website brother, as you must realise after stating you have been reading since this site’s birth.
Always remember, it was nothing you did, it wasn’t your fault, and it’s simply the outcome of the brainwashing conditioning of modern society.
Focus on yourself, get your health back, reclaim your life and be thankful you got out alive. Many don’t.
Welcome to the haven.
No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.

Anonymous13Welcome.
A nice well written intro, and sadly one that is all too familiar over and over and over…
Every corner of the globe, the same story from every kind of man.
I truly believe we’re now in FREEFALL.
Welcome Stealth
You must own a better Crystal ball than IWelcome to the club. My journey took 60 years, and although I was always aware of how the game was played, I always avoided the major pitfalls. Then, my live-in girlfriend of 13 years made a phone call. Now, I’m glad that at 62 my sex drive is quite diminished from what it was in my youth, and I’m no longer baited by the promise of ‘hot times’. Going my own way affords me the peace of mind to pursue my dreams and goals without the subterfuge of a woman working against those goals. So, grab a beer from the fridge and enjoy the company.
"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."
Welcome Stealth. May the Perfect Peace of Christ be with you always.
Hold on to your faith. I don’t think the philosophical values of our faith truly resonates with women. Although I believe there are some, they are one in one thousand.
Welcome again, welcome to the forums man. You’re sharing will help you. You have other brothers here who truly care about your well being.

Anonymous25welcome
wow lurker for a long time. makes me wonder how many lurkers we actually have
@lurkers – sign up men don’t be shy

Anonymous0Welcome Stealth. Your story is a familiar one and I hope you post more about your experiences.
I’m sorry to hear about your problems. I hope things will get better. Welcome.
A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)
Thanks for the welcome, guys!
Things HAVE gotten better. I have been kicking some major ass, have a better job, and finally have a house that is clean and uncluttered. The events of my divorce were actions other people were doing. I maintained an awareness of this throughout, and got to see up close who the people in my life really were. Life is generally better without a human parasite, coming to this site reminds me of this on those days when I need a red pill or two. And if she was going to flake out I’m glad she did it after ten years of hard work than thirty, like some of the older women I briefly dated.For any PUA lurkers, my psychotic ex wife is out there… in the clubs, at the grocery stores, on dating sites. She might be your next catch, you lucky devil. Just think about that.
"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

Anonymous42Good timing! We needed a new Stealth!
finally have a house that is clean and uncluttered.
I’ve seen this before, when they leave the garbage output goes way down! Way less trash! It’s like the city dump moved out of your house! My home is clean and the floors are always mopped, not one stitch of filthy dirty dusty carpet, all wood and ceramic tile floors, easy to clean and sanitize.
I’ve seen
barnspigpens cleaner than some women are, especially the throat burning eye watering stench of cat p~~~ in a catlady house! It’s a smell you NEVER FORGET! Happened to me once in my teens, I stood in the hallway waiting for a title and had to walk outside and couldn’t go back in! Did the transaction with her son outside.If Jesus where here today I don’t think he would support the current perversion that is marriage.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
I have to say my Catholic education was a blue pill boot camp. It’s the main reason I got married when I knew I didn’t want to. Catholic guilt.
Part of my MGTOW journey is to ignore all religion as mind control that works against my better interests. It invariably preaches sexual purity while many of its leaders engage in perverted abuse of the vulnerable. It teaches men to put up with any old s~~~ from women. Getting free from religion was my first and necessary step to going MGTOWGood timing! We needed a new Stealth!
finally have a house that is clean and uncluttered.
I’ve seen this before, when they leave the garbage output goes way down! Way less trash! It’s like the city dump moved out of your house! My home is clean and the floors are always mopped, not one stitch of filthy dirty dusty carpet, all wood and ceramic tile floors, easy to clean and sanitize.
I’ve seen
barnspigpens cleaner than some women are, especially the throat burning eye watering stench of cat p~~~ in a catlady house! It’s a smell you NEVER FORGET! Happened to me once in my teens, I stood in the hallway waiting for a title and had to walk outside and couldn’t go back in! Did the transaction with her son outside.Yup, wife generated so much trash we needed an extra garbage can from the city. Now I’m living with family and there is hardly any trash. I’m bracing myself for when I get the house back after the divorce.
A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!
@stealth, it’s terrific to welcome you. Enjoyed your intro, and learning you’ve been with us for a while. Please make yourself at home.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous0Welcome home, Stealth
Beer’s in the fridge“The MGTOWs told him to brace himself for what was about to happen, as she would transform into the devil herself and try to kill him and take his money.”
Re-reading this, “destroy” would have been the better word choice here. The death part is what I kept blatently hearing from my wife. Too late to edit it, but same basic idea.
"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

Anonymous6“The MGTOWs told him to brace himself for what was about to happen, as she would transform into the devil herself and try to kill him and take his money.”
Re-reading this, “destroy” would have been the better word choice here. The death part is what I kept blatently hearing from my wife. Too late to edit it, but same basic idea.
It’s good to see you clarify. Your story is heartbreaking. Please make yourself home here. You’re not only amongst friends but among people who understand as well.

Anonymous3Thanks! I am new here myself & can really identify. I was a white night who ” saved ” a woman from another country.
After marriage she got a job & the feminazis schooled her in the American way & soon it was over.
I fell into another trap for 2 yrs & then another one for 5.
After that I woke up. Now I live alone & at ease.Hi Stealth
Great avatar, I’m a huge Bond fan and I think my love of the Bond novels may have influenced me to be MGHOW from a young age. A lot of Flemings writing is fully MGTOW Related.
I’m so glad I learned from my older cousins and relatives how s~~~ty marriage is and when I saw most of them and up miserable I thought, no way, not me! I’m sorry you had to go through all the BS to get to where you are now.
Stay strong brother
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