Introduction

[Honorable_Juice_BoxParticipant 591]

Hello everyone,

I first discovered MGTOW a few months back, and have been delving deeper into the concepts ever since. I have been actively browsing the forums and watching YouTube videos the whole time but just recently registered with the site.

I have always thought that my personal experiences with women (or lack thereof) were unique to me but have found that to be false.

I am 25 years old and have never had sex or even dated. It’s actually quite funny in that I was once ashamed of these facts, but have now come to see them as a blessing.

My whole life I was always a white knight mangina, to the extreme. I idolized women to the point that I could not even function around one I was attracted to. I would get nervous, slur speech and even start sweating.

This certainly stems from me being an introvert, preferring to spend time alone while everyone else was out partying. I always had a small circle of friends which was fine by me.

I also suffered from “oneitis,” becoming overly obsessed with individual women, which would never turn into anything due to my nervousness. To this day I am amazed at the mental energy I would spend thinking about these women, it really is sad.

Anyway I was browsing the internet one day about something regarding single mothers (I was seriously considering asking one out), when I stumbled upon MGTOW.

My initial reaction was one of disgust, seeing the way women were being talked about (my blue pill mind could not handle it). At that point I blew it off as a woman-hating site; however as time passed I found my curiosity getting the better of me and I found myself revisiting the concepts.

I started off with YouTube; I know many people do not care for Sandman, but he was my true introduction to the world of Red Pill. Within the course of a couple weeks I watched his entire library (600 videos at the time). I could not get enough, my eyes were opening to the world around me. Since then I have moved onto some other content creators like Vention, TFM, Metaphysics, etc.

Once I discovered MGTOW and the red pill my interest in women has shattered. It is a truly freeing feeling. Throughout my youth and up to a few months back before I discovered MGTOW I was sold on the Disney fantasy of getting married and having kids, now I can’t even comprehend such a horror.

Apologies for the ramble, and thanks for all you guys have done.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome! I’m glad you made it!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Honorable_Juice_Box wrote:

I am 25 years old and have never had sex or even dated. It’s actually quite funny in that I was once ashamed of these facts, but have now come to see them as a blessing.

I’ve seen that very same thought in print under a youtube video before. Dude celebrates it now.

Honorable_Juice_Box wrote:

I idolized women to the point that I could not even function around one I was attracted to. I would get nervous, slur speech and even start sweating.

You want to know where that comes from? It’s not natural. It’s forced on you. Pure social conditioning . It’s ALL OVER THE PLACE in TV commercials, shows, movies, …… and especially: DISNEY. Oh yeah. Remember when Aladdin had to be coached by the Genie on what to SAY and how to ACT around her? Jasmine is walking though the market, he sees her says “WWOOOOWW” and starts tripping over his words. And she hasn’t even done anything impressive. She just…… exists . And, she’s kind of a stuck up bitch to him too!

All designed to brainwash you into thinking women are …… unattainable. This is s~~~ is pumped into your head before you’re f~~~ing 6. And what’s worse, girls see it and think they can behave like c~~~s to you and your still supposed to “like” them.

The entire bulls~~~ PUA (pick up artist) industry is built on this — “How to talk to women”, and “how to approach women”. This is the biggest joke, because there is no trick to talking to (or approaching) a woman. Even the use of the word “approach” p~~~es me off.. You approach an alligator pit. You approach the edge off a cliff. But she’s just a woman — not a dentist’s chair.

As soon as you realize it’s all bulls~~~… you’re cured.
Ask yourself WHY are you nervous and spilling your words?? Her “rejection”? That’s bulls~~~ too.

Think of it this way……

You don’t know her her yet.
Therefore she doesn’t MEAN anything to you yet.
And since she doesn’t MEAN anything to you…….
Her rejection can’t possibly mean anything to you either.

Congratulations. You’re cured. In just 4 sentences. It’s put into your head that you should be nervous of women and trip on your words….. it can be ripped out of your head just as easily too. Now you can see a Victoria’s Secret “Angel” (more brainwashing) and be like……. “meh”.

Why do you think they call TV “programming”? You have been “programmed” to think like that , and the day you realize it, is the day you can begin to de-program yourself.

Honorable_Juice_Box wrote:

My initial reaction was one of disgust, seeing the way women were being talked about (my blue pill mind could not handle it). At that point I blew it off as a woman-hating site; however as time passed I found my curiosity getting the better of me and I found myself revisiting the concepts.

That’s classic. The truth is addictive, and no matter how bitter it tastes, men keep coming back for more.

Welcome to MGTOW. Great avatar by the way. Noticed it right away.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

The journey to MGTOW was a safe one for you. Many others were not as fortunate. Now that you’re here – welcome and glad you made it!

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Hey Sepuku, welcome aboard!

I like the avatar – took me a minute to get the drift but i lol’d once i did.

Very glad to hear you’re seeing the risks that other men are warning about, as opposed to having to learn about them (very painfully & expensively!) firsthand. That’s one of the great things about this community, and i only hope that positive impact goes farther & wider.

I encourage you to learn as much as you can from the brothers here. Ask questions, tell jokes, talk s~~~ or blow off steam when you want. This is a good crowd.

[UntamedParticipant]

This is the magic of MGTOW. The Truth cuts to the chase and deeper than what the T~~~s would like. Once the Red Pill is swallowed you’re pulled out of the whole Bluepill delusion and it falls all around you like a house of cards. It’s all based on bulls~~~ science and propaganda, brainwashed into the masses in what passes for Entertainment and Advertising.
Welcome to MGTOW, where Men are awake and tell it like it is.

Keymaster wrote:

You want to know where that comes from? It’s not natural. It’s forced on you. Pure social conditioning . It’s ALL OVER THE PLACE in TV commercials, shows, movies, ……
All designed to brainwash you into thinking women are …… unattainable.
<stong>You don’t know her her yet.
Therefore she doesn’t MEAN anything to you yet.
And since she doesn’t MEAN anything to you…….
Her reaction can’t possibly mean anything to you either.
Congratulations. You’re cured. In just 4 sentences.

Applause, K.M

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Untamed wrote:

Advertising.

Why would a man buy a diamond ring for a woman(?) – when he knows it’s entirely stupid and pointless to buy one for himself.

Thank you for inspiring my random thought of the day.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Welcome Sepuku!

Don’t sweat it – I wasn’t much younger than you my first time. It sounds like you’re well on your way to going your own way, and it’s definitely the way to go.

Sex can be a lot of fun, but it’s not worth getting all bunched up about as you seem to have discovered. KM’s advice is better than any I could come up with, especially about the rejection part. That was always a huge one for me and still sometimes is if I don’t catch myself. Somewhere along the way we managed to conflate our value as a human with the value that women place on our sexuality. Unfortunately, for most men that value is quite low due to hypergamy, which come to think of it may account for the higher rates of male depression and even suicide.

Don’t play their game, or at least make up your own rules. A lot of guys here are down on the whole PUA thing, but if you can see past the smarmy bulls~~~ and find the core nuggets that help you take women’s hypergamous nature and turn it to your advantage, you can significantly increase your odds and have a little fun while doing so, no matter the outcome.

That’s if your interested in sex at some point. Nothing wrong with not being interested either, I just remember what I was like at that age, and I could only go so long convincing myself it didn’t matter. It’s just biology – we can’t control that, but we can control how we respond to it and where it takes us.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Btw…f~~~ing milfs…it is all stretched out

Bunker’s probably right – they’re best avoided. That said, even though they might be “stretched out,” I’ve been with some milfs where that translated into extra muscle tone down there and they were quite able to nearly “crack walnuts” if you get my meaning.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Anonymous 42]

Hi Sepuku, I’m glad to see you’ve awakened, it’s amazing how strong the gynocentric illusion is when you’re dwelling in the dark, in the lands of Gynocentralia, where the wombats spawn.
Welcome to the most intense spectrum of truth, the truth that now shatters the misgivings of 50+ years of feminist indoctrination.

Keymaster wrote:

Why would a man buy a diamond ring for a woman(?) – when he knows it’s entirely stupid and pointless to buy one for himself.

I don’t know about diamond rings, I like them crushed to dust and bonded to concrete saw discs, and core bore cylinders. How else can I make a hole in concrete, they outlawed the public sale of dynamite, besides TNT makes a messy hole….

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Keymaster wrote:

Why would a man buy a diamond ring for a woman(?)

Plenty of reasons.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10911]

Welcome to the forum sir. I’m glad that you decided to join us and even happier that you avoided the pitfalls of relations~~~s and marriage. Just as everyone else has posted, society drills into your head about getting a woman as if it’s some kind of Boy Scout patch that you must get before being allowed to enter manhood. Then once you do, you have to earn a bunch of other useless patches until you get to the marriage patch. After that one, you are screwed. In the end you end up realizing that you did all this work for a system that is against you and doesn’t give a s~~~ about you. You are disposable like a D battery. When you are used up, they have you removed and they replace you wish a fresh one.
Again, welcome aboard.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

That said, even though they might be “stretched out,” I’ve been with some milfs where that translated into extra muscle tone down there and they were quite able to nearly “crack walnuts” if you get my meaning.

You gotta look for the caesarian scar. If the MILF in question has one, she may not have squeezed it (or them) out through the fishy-hole, so structural integrity my not have been compromised.

"I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

[Honorable_Juice_BoxParticipant 591]

The warm welcome is much appreciated gentlemen, I am truly enjoying my newly discovered view of life; it’s akin to being reborn or “unplugged” (man the Matrix is such an amazing analogy for MGTOW).

Keymaster wrote:

It’s not natural. It’s forced on you. Pure social conditioning . It’s ALL OVER THE PLACE in TV commercials, shows, movies, …… and especially: DISNEY. Oh yeah. Remember when Aladdin had to be coached by the Genie on what to SAY and how to ACT around her? Jasmine is walking though the market, he sees her says “WWOOOOWW” and starts tripping over his words. And she hasn’t even done anything impressive. She just…… exists . And, she’s kind of a stuck up bitch to him too!

To me this is fascinating; who is to benefit from teaching men to act this way towards women? Women themselves despise white knights and manginas. The courts and governments can certainly profit from the destruction of marriage and traditional families, but in the long run that will surely only weaken us as a nation.

Keymaster wrote:

Think of it this way……

You don’t know her her yet.
Therefore she doesn’t MEAN anything to you yet.
And since she doesn’t MEAN anything to you…….
Her rejection can’t possibly mean anything to you either.

Before MGTOW I avoided female rejection like the plague; now not only do I see a female’s rejection as meaningless, but the female herself has no value to me; sure she may be something nice to look at, and in most cases that is the extent of their beauty.

Truthseeker82 wrote:

The journey to MGTOW was a safe one for you. Many others were not as fortunate.

MattNYC wrote:

Very glad to hear you’re seeing the risks that other men are warning about, as opposed to having to learn about them (very painfully & expensively!) firsthand.

Mr. Spock wrote:

I’m glad that you decided to join us and even happier that you avoided the pitfalls of relations~~~s and marriage.

I am truly grateful for the path my life has followed. What I once considered a weakness acted as a barrier to protect me from many dangers. I have gained priceless wisdom from the trials and tribulations other men have endured; and count myself lucky to have avoided them myself.

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

Sex can be a lot of fun, but it’s not worth getting all bunched up about as you seem to have discovered.

I have little doubt that sex with a real woman can compare to any form of masturbation (including sex toys); the simple fact is that sex or even a relationship with a woman fails a basic cost-benefit analysis.

They keep you from attaining your goals or even discovering new ones.

I regret all the wasted time and mental energy wasted spent obsessing over women; however I relish the freedom I now have to pursue what really matters, my own happiness.

Anonymous wrote:

Welcome to the most intense spectrum of truth, the truth that now shatters the misgivings of 50+ years of feminist indoctrination.

What amazes me is how unknown all this information was to me in my earlier years, and even to many other men in modern times. The feminists must be working damn hard to keep it under wraps as best they can.

[Anonymous 26]

Welcome Sepuku

Your life is about to get a lot better! Now that you start reinforcement what your life is suppose to be about….. YOU!!! Not some t~~~ that you may think is an angel put on this earth for you. It doesn’t work that way brother…. they are all satan’s bitches!

Keymaster wrote:

Why would a man buy a diamond ring for a woman(?) – when he knows it’s entirely stupid and pointless to buy one for himself.

The ONLY reason I could ever see myself buying a diamond anything (be it ring, earrings, necklace), would be to put it in a safe box as an asset to invest for resale later, and never intended for a woman to hang onto or own. Women do not understand the value of ownership, or the value of an investment asset.

I would only ever consider given them a pearl necklace I spew myself….with her help would appreciated.

[Anonymous 0]

Honorable_Juice_Box wrote:

, I am truly enjoying my newly discovered view of life; it’s akin to being reborn or “unplugged”

Welcome Brother,
I can not say it any better than has already been said.
That said, I can say this: I am at the other end of the spectrum. I am 63 years old and a MGTOW. Women in my age group still try to make me believe that they have something I want. (golden vagina) When I tell them that I don’t want a GF or any relations~~~, They don’t know what to say. They do not know how to respond and try shaming tactics on me. I enjoy calling them out and throw down on them any time. Try telling the woman you are interested in that you don’t want her and observe her reaction. I will bet its worth a BJ. Welcome again, Brother, you are in the right place. Read. Post Learn. What one man shares another learns.

[TheDigestedRedPillParticipant 165]

You have been unplugged from the Matrix.

Welcome to How to C~~~ bash 101. Thumbs up buddy.

Society live's as if we have reached the pinnacle of human potential. Technological Advancement and Innovation, intellectualism, critical thinking is substituted for useless innovations, nasty narcissistic games, tyrannical laws that destroy the very foundation of family, and the world as we know it.

[VettenParticipant 110]

Welcome Sepuku, glad you found your way here!

[Honorable_Juice_BoxParticipant 591]

Anonymous wrote:

Try telling the woman you are interested in that you don’t want her and observe her reaction.

Since I have become MGTOW, I have lost all interest in women. In my day-to-day I merely walk past them, not even glancing in their direction; this alone has garnished reactions from them I have seen out of the corners of my eyes, no words needed.

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