Intro and a question

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

Hello,

I’ll guess I add my intro to the long list of others, and try to explain how I ended up here.

I met my first GF in school when I was 17. As we went to Uni in the same city we decided to move in together. Worked out for a few years, and then she fell in love with a “bad-boy” she was intent on remaking. I happened to run inte her some 5 yrs ago, and now I am happy we split up. She had hit the wall so hard that I didn’t recognize her even when she called my name. I simply could not believe someone could age that much in such a short time.

After some years as single, I met my next GF at 25. Moved in, we had a daughter, and then by 30 she decided she wanted something better (I was still building my career at that point and not making much money). I decided to focus on my career, but as I live in sweden I started to take care of my daughter half of the time (one week with me, one week with her mother). Trust me, I know all about changing dipers. At this point, I had decided not to move in with a woman again. But I still tried to have relationships. Got into another longer one between 34-38 yrs, where we lived separate and met each other only a few weekends each month.

While she seemed very rational on the surface, she finally showed her true colors, being totally irrational and with a view of her self that was so far from reality I just had to dump her. What kept me in that relationship for such a long time was the amazing sex, and the fact that she always insisted on that we split all expenses down to the last coin.

Since then, I’ve mostly decided that women are just not worth it. Focusing on taking care of my career and my daughter instead. I love her a lot and have tried to raise her to become a rational being with a sense of reason and responsibility. However,…..

Something strange seems to happen when girls go through puberty. She is now 15, and she has gone from being a reasonable person, to a completely irrational, emotional being that I simply do not recognize. And now, the 3rd wave feminist/SJW has gotten her in her claws, and I am at a complete loss. Since a few months back, she decided to go live with her mother permanently because “I was disagreeing too much with her”.

So how did I end up here? As I know she is on YouTube a lot, I decided to see where all the ideas came from. So I watched a few young feminist/SJW vloggers and could not believe my eyes. I then looked at some of the anti-feminist vids, and dug deeper and deeper until I learned about the red pill. The last month I’ve spent reeducating myself about women by reading, watching vids, etc. As I learn, all the behaviors of women that I never understood, the things they said, the things they did, etc. suddenly started to make sense. Also the fact that all my long-term x:es live alone and have cats.

Now, I am 41, single, have made a great career, make good money (by Swedish standards), and have just woken up to the fact that I don’t have a f–n clue what to do with the rest of my life. I also wonder if there is anyway I can save my daughter from the insanity of feminism/SJW.

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Welcome home buddy. Start a thread or two about Sweden.

I have always maintained that estrogen is a powerful drug that affects women’s behavior.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[AposematicParticipant 2671]

There ya go.Don’t tell my ex that I am elated that I have had no contact with my 15 y.o. daughter in 5 years . No puberty blues for the Oxytocin😅💔

Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

A thread about Sweden? The only info needed is:

1. All women claim to be feminist. Even our current government takes pride in calling themselves a “feminist government”.
2. Swedish women claim to want their own careers and not be stay at home mothers.
3. But when it comes down to it, they are just like all other women. Chasing men to get social status, money, compare houses, etc. Complaining they have lower salaries, and at the same time they don’t want to put in the hours, have the responsibility or work overtime when needed.

TL;DR: Sweden is not a good country for men.

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Is it really that bad?

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Confucius wrote:

I also wonder if there is anyway I can save my daughter from the insanity of feminism/SJW.

Not really. Best you can do is give her fatherly advice about the reality of a woman.

A woman’s life is relative to the man she selects. Trailer park man equals trailer park life.

Even if she selects the best man possible she will still become miserable. She will never be appreciative. Our society makes sure of this outcome.

All women are in essence just circling the drain of misery. The only question is how many souls she takes down with her.

So no, your daughter is in the system and will act appropriately.

Peace brothers

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

DorkShit wrote:

Is it really that bad?

Not yet maybe, but it is slowly getting worse. In my line of work, we have a lack of women. Hence, women get a lot of free passes. Which is the standard policy of our management. Maybe this has affected me a bit.

What worried me more is that as I am working partly with with education myself, I see the effects of the early years of indoctrination in schools here, and I am really scared for what the future holds for this country when these kids grow up.

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

Confucius wrote:

So no, your daughter is in the system and will act appropriately.

This is what I fear. After learning more about women, I currently see now other way it can go. Sigh.

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

[JVBParticipant]

Good for you bro. Put that s~~~ in your rear view and carry on carrying on. At your age I would not suggest breeding either.

Peace is > piece.

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

JVB wrote:

At your age I would not suggest breeding either.

Nah, no more kids for me. I’ve been through that journey once already. Time for other stuff now. As far as women go:

At my age you have three options:
1. Either date someone who already has kids.
2. Date someone without kids.
3. Don’t date.

Option 1: No way.
Option 2: At some point, a woman without kids will want to have kids. So that is also a no.
Option 3: The only option remaining. Easy choice.

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Confucius wrote:

and have just woken up to the fact that I don’t have a f–n clue what to do with the rest of my life

That’s OK . . . some of the most interesting +40 year olds I know STILL don’t.

I’m actually a believer that man should NOT do the same thing for all his life. Although that makes you “unpredictable”, “uncontrollable” and “unreliable” in a woman’s eyes… but show me how that’s a bad thing for you.

Confucius wrote:

I also wonder if there is anyway I can save my daughter from the insanity of feminism/SJW.

Interesting catch 22. Father nature is not without a sense of humor. You finally have everything under control, your s~~~ together and lots of things figured out – and then POOF!! – he drops a daughter in your lap.

“Confucius say… man who stand on toilet, high on pot”.
( lame joke of the day )

A big welcome to MGTOW and the forums.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

Keymaster wrote:

I’m actually a believer that man should NOT do the same thing for all his life.

Spent the last year thinking hard, as well as discussing with friends, if it is time to do something else. Everyone is just telling me I am having a mid-life crisis, and not to worry as it will pass.

Not sure I want it to just “pass”.

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Confucius wrote:

Everyone is just telling me I am having a mid-life crisis,

Careful there. They are projecting. I think it’s crap to call it a “crisis”. They will tell you this when you’re 40 and you can finally afford the hot sports car you always wanted since you were 18 . . . and when you finally buy it, you’re having a “mid life crisis”, and you’re “overcompensating for something”.

Prime example:

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If you have yourself together now better than 20 years ago, how is it a “crisis”?

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Confucius welcome home.

Just in case, get a vasectomy.

Sorry but your kid is lost.

My advice retire young, get your money to the caribean and live like a sir.

Forget about Sweden, it is lost to insanity, it’s a shame to see the migthy Vikings go down like this.

Ohh by the way we sometimes refer to Sweden like swedestan, hope you don’t mind.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

Carnage wrote:

Just in case, get a vasectomy.

Been thinking about that lately. Although I’ve been “clean” for almost a year now, I do have a bad habit of sometimes relapsing when getting too drunk and have ONS. Then waking up in the morning with that extra spice to the hangover of not knowing whether she really was on the pill or not. I am so thankful to whoever invented the “day after pill”.

Anyway, thinking about the procedure, but somehow I am reluctant to have surgery to my b~~~~.

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

[JVBParticipant]

Confucius wrote:

JVB wrote:

At your age I would not suggest breeding either.

Nah, no more kids for me. I’ve been through that journey once already. Time for other stuff now. As far as women go:

At my age you have three options:
1. Either date someone who already has kids.
2. Date someone without kids.
3. Don’t date.

Option 1: No way.
Option 2: At some point, a woman without kids will want to have kids. So that is also a no.
Option 3: The only option remaining. Easy choice.

Spot on !!!

Peace is > piece.

[NomadicExpatParticipant 1785]

Couldnt agree more, Keymaster!

I think all Mens “midlife crises” are really just the teenage hormones wearing off, revealing red pill truths they couldnt see when drowning in the desire to f~~~ everything with t~~~.

Some Men see the truth, cower in fear and find no way out, so they persevere in blue-pill-hell. Others escape from the plantation and regroup here.

Welcome Home, Brother.

[ConfuciusParticipant 183]

NomadicExpat wrote:

… t~~~.

My biggest weakness 🙁

"Life is really simple, but men insist on making it complicated."

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Confucius wrote:

I also wonder if there is anyway I can save my daughter from the insanity of feminism/SJW.

I am sorry. Men no longer have the power to do that. And women mental power is too fickle for logical self inspection. Heck, even many men are lost too.

If you don’t teaches her that every action have consequence by age 3-12, the child will no longer learn that even if it is the truth. If you don’t instill a good habit by then, you can never do that anymore.

Many parent rear their child in easy and sheltered life. It makes them soft. My parent even thinks that exposing me (and my sister) to certain truth in life will scar me in life and make me have a negative perception of life. So now my sister is lost to them.

I had probably been a SJW for a time before I woke up.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Anonymous 5]

A warm welcome Confucius
My daughter was the sweetest little human being you could ever hope to meet till she hit puberty. Luckily, like the vast majority of young females she focused most of her poison on her mother. However, once she went through that stage and after the divorce, she turned that subtle viciousness on to me. I don’t have contact with her.

Confucius wrote:

Spent the last year thinking hard, as well as discussing with friends, if it is time to do something else. Everyone is just telling me I am having a mid-life crisis, and not to worry as it will pass.

When Captain Cook first came to New Zealand he came across a very different set of “Natives”
One of their ancient proverbs was “A man wakes up when he is 40 and wonders where he has been”
You’re waking up and MGTOW is telling you where you’ve been!
Of course, if any action by a male re-directs his resources to himself rather than females then the females will respond with belittling shaming labels of “A midlife crisis”

It’s very tough at first when you realize the Red Pill. Your whole matrix vaporizes.
Don’t worry, when one door closes another opens. Be patient with yourself.
It’s a whole new world and everything will go back to a better “Normal” than you’ve ever known.

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